Talk:Mariano Rivera

What is up with all the Professional Baseball sections?

Can someone on a computer fix this? WaiakeaWarrior (talk) 01:03, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Non-notable awards

I noticed the Thurman Munson Award listed when someone took the unlinked award and linked only the "Thurman Munson" part. Along with Clutch Performer of the Month, should these be deleted if there's no background in prose about what these awards are, and there is no wikilink to get more information. Sure it's verifiable he won these, but they seem too minor to leave in an FA as well as someone with Rivera's extensive and more notable accomplishments.—Bagumba (talk) 07:21, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Trump Historical Context Removed

Y2kcrazyjoker4 wrote "Now it reads like Trump is the highest civilian award in the US". That is on odd statement as well as an odd reason for a reversion. The added context was historically accurate (ie. noting the president at the time the award was made). Why would you remove that accurate context? Please explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeSchiro (talk • contribs) 16:14, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

It looks like not the best grammar. Trump is mentioned on this page, nobody is whitewashing the Rivera/Trump relationship. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:33, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

What is the best grammer? I am happy to fix it. – GeorgeSchiro (talk) 16:40, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

According to MOS:LEAD, the lead should Template:Tq Receiving the medal makes him notable, not the president who bestowed it. The presidential details are in the body.—Bagumba (talk) 07:00, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh no...

Yankees Hall of Famer Mariano Rivera, wife Clara accused of covering up child sex abuse | New York Daily News Not suggesting an edit yet, I'm still digesting this. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:11, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Oh no, indeed. We probably won't have much choice but to add this info to the article (unless this transpires much differently than I'm anticipating), and to formulate a WP:NPOV write-up of the news. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 01:55, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Mariano Rivera is not an Panamanian-American

Most people use this term to refer to an American of Panamanian descent (this is even the Wikipedia definition). This is not Mariano's case; he was born in Panama and then got American citizenship. That part of the article should be changed to "a Panamanian naturalized American" or something similar. Panamenian0102 (talk) 01:59, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

If that were the case, Rolando Blackman would not have the same lead nor would he be on the Panamanian American Wiki page. GOAT Bones231012 (talk) 02:11, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

I agree there was the same mistake with Rolando Blackman. The Panamanian American Wiki page is already messed up. It first defines the term as American of Panamanian descent but then enlists a mix of American of Panamanian descent and Panamanians-born with American citizenship. There are even weirder cases like El Chombo, who neither was born in America nor has American citizenship yet Panamanian American Wiki page enlist him as an American-born Panamanian producer and artist. I don't think we should change the definition in Panamanian American, but some enlisted people don't fit that definition. Panamenian0102 (talk) 02:35, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Good point regarding El Chombo, not sure what that’s about. Aside from that, Mariano being an American citizen makes him an American. So not sure where exactly the problem is. Panamanian Americans, "Americans of Panamanian descent". He is American of Panamanian descent. GOAT Bones231012 (talk) 03:20, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Him becoming an American does not seem to be a core part of his notability to mentioned how he acquired citizenship in the lead. The limitation of English and Panamanian-American is that there isn't an equivalent term to like issei in Japanese that simply conveys what generation he is. —Bagumba (talk) 02:05, 1 May 2025 (UTC)