Talk:Lower North Shore

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moved sentence from article, this is contentious, I've certainly never heard anybody in sydney ever use this convoluted reference. of course, if somebody provides a good source maybe it should go in:

Someone from Lower Northern Sydney is often refered to as a "Lower Northern Sydneysider" or as a "Lower North Shoresman/woman".

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this article should probably be merged with North Shore (Sydney), at the very least a summary of the information here should be included in the top-level article and a companion Upper North Shore (Sydney) article should be written. the main overall north shore article should certainly not be shorter than this article. clarkk 09:47, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

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Removed paragraph:

For a while in the 80's and 90's, most of Lower Northern Sydney was not as wealthy as it is today. Fibro houses were not uncommon in the region's western half and there was a short-lived period where gang activity was evident in Ryde (Armenian gangs), Chatswood (Triads), and (Anglo-Australian gangs) in several areas. Today however, crime in the region is very low and gang activity is almost dead with focus moving more towards the south western suburbs.

Utter rubbish. I have lived in this region for over 40 years. This is drivel. I lived in Ryde during the 1990s and never noticed any exceptional 'gang activity'. It is debatable as to whether Ryde would be considered part of Lower Northern Sydney anyway. The comment about "Fibro houses" is unhelpful if no explanation as to what they are (low cost housing originally provided after WWII to returned serviceman) is provided. The paragraph as it stands is unsupported and probably racist in intent. The demographics of the region did not change markedly through the 80s or 90s. pinglis 29 June 2006

Original research

This article has a lot of information but no references at all. --WikiCats 09:15, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Since when?

Since when is Ryde part of Lower North Shore - it's part of the western suburbs. Always has been. [wanders off to go find some references]...

JL

I agree. The whole City of Ryde area isn't part of the Lower North Shore and it never has been. I'd fix up this article but I'm really tired... put it on my list for another year... John Wormell (talk) 09:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Port Jackson Harbour?

What the?? No wonder it was red-linked. Changed to Port Jackson (not red-linked). I agree that there is a lot unreferenced phooey in this article. Needs a copyedit. Bleakcomb (talk) 23:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Partial copyedit

Well, well. Where do you start?

• The fact that the 2007 Granny Smith Festival turned into a political bun-fight(if, in fact it did) is I assume not a regional tradition and has been deleted from that section.
• The article is Lower North Shore, but the text refers to Lower North Sydney or Northern Sydney. Needs more care and focus.
• Sounds like a brochure? I'm sold. I'll buy one. Needs a copyedit to remove all the flowery language and topics. I think though removing all the make-believe and unreferenced tosh first will make a copyedit a shorter job.
• Global Sydney, Sydney Global Corridor - don't make me laugh. I can't think what prevented me from deleting this. Perhaps it was the whole two Google search results. I'll delete tomorrow, though.
• Haven't the The Lane Cove Azalea Beds been removed? Bleakcomb (talk) 01:14, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Update - this article was Lower Northern Sydney, but was changed to Lower North Shore. Lower Northern Sydney is, if nothing else, a Statistical area used by the ABS. I think the name has no cultural usage, unlike the ill-defined Lower North Shore. Lower Northern Sydney as defined by the ABS does include the LGA of the City of Ryde. It seems a shame that the original article has been lost as it would have been quite useful when describing statistics. As it stands it probably should be deleted. It has information from both articles, but represents neither well. Bleakcomb (talk) 03:45, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Requested move (2025)

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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• Lower North Shore (Sydney) → Lower North ShoreLower North Shore
• Lower North Shore → Lower North Shore (disambiguation)Lower North Shore (disambiguation)

– There are 2 pages, one is a Major commercial hub in Sydney, the other is a locality that doesn't exist anymore, and it is a French language title. This is the English Wikipedia. Not the French. Should be the clear primary topic Servite et contribuere (talk) 03:19, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

• Canada speaks English, and it is frequently called "Lower North Shore" in English. Quebec has funny laws that say official names in English are illegal, so it isn't official. That doesn't matter, since Wikipedia doesn't run on WP:OFFICIALNAMEs. The official district does not exist anymore, but the region is still the region and is referred to that way. Just as any other geographic region can be a government sanctioned region or a traditionally defined area. The clear primary topic in Canada would be the Quebec one, as it figures into interprovincial politics. The clear primary topic in Australia is the NSW one. Is the a primary topic in the UK? -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 06:21, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

  Don't think there would be a primary topic in the UK. And I don't think they would be notable places in the UK anyway. Servite et contribuere (talk) 06:43, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom. It does seem like the Sydney Lower North Shore is the most common usage of this term. It enjoys a decent lead in pageviews too.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:27, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.