Talk:Louis Philippe I

Relation to Charles X

How was Louis Philippe I related to Charles X? This article says they were cousins, but I don't think they were first cousins. There are a few webpages that say they were second cousins, but I don't think that's right either. It looks like they were both the great, great, great, great grandsons of Louis XIII (both through all-male lines). That makes them fifth cousins at least, and there are a couple webpages that say they were fifth cousins. That may be the answer. Although it's only a couple webpages that say that, and I don't know if they were more closely related in other ways. - 2603:9000:E408:4800:2CE3:A59B:4947:6A9B (talk) 23:55, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

They were more closely related in other ways.

I make it that their closest relationship was third cousins once removed (through two different lines). Opera hat (talk) 15:44, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Hyphen?

Is there a reason for the missing hyphen in the name, compared to the french spelling (Louis-Philippe)? MeAmME (talk) 16:58, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Marriage

The article says that Louis Philippe's father had a hand in the execution of Marie Antoinette, but that is incorrect. His father was a regicide and voted for the death of Louis XVI, but he was rounded up at the same time that Marie Antoinette was put on trial, and he survived her for only a few weeks. 169.253.162.2 (talk) 22:07, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

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"The Spanish Renunciation"

The lead section contains a reference (added here in 2022) to "the Spanish renunciation" with a link to "Phillip V of Spain". As it's currently worded, the implication seems to be that Charles X abdicated because of the July Revolution and the Peace of Utrecht. I think it's actually trying to say that Louis Philippe's accession was (at least in part) a result of the ineligibility of Phillip V's descendants due to the Peace of Utrecht.

Frankly, I don't know much about this stuff. As it stands, the addition is confusing. Should it be there? Should it be reworded? Does this article need to discuss the Peace of Utrecht? If so, how should it be handled? Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 21:01, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I think that's what it's trying to say but I've removed it because it's a red herring and unnecessarily confuses. There was no prospect of the Spanish Bourbons coming to the throne - they weren't stepped over because of the Utrecht renunciation. The Orleanists came to power as part of a bourgeois revolution. The legitimism of the line of succession wasn't really relevant - anyone who cared about it would have supported Charles X and his grandson. DeCausa (talk) 10:58, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

This article needs serious work

Can we try to get as many people as possible working on this article? This article has a lot of information already, but needs a lot of work. For example, look at the French and Portuguese versions of the article. I can’t do this alone, since I’m a fairly busy person. I’d like a decent amount of attention payed to this article, since I believe it is necessary for it to be cleaned up. Henry Berghoff (talk) 02:19, 4 December 2023 (UTC)