Talk:Little Ice Age

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Biased chart

What a biased chart you have. Medieval warm period colder than years before? :) It was well written in ClimateGate emails that they make an additional work to lower the temperatures in "Medieval warm period", so current GW would more alarming. Biased chart, biased science. 95.103.178.167 (talk) 07:26, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

The so-called climategate "conspiracy" was proven in multiple studies to have involved no evidence of fraud or scientific misconduct. —RCraig09 (talk) 13:30, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

The medieval warming period was warmer and over a broad duration the graph shows the warming period at a flatter data pool. It does seem bias. 96.233.147.155 (talk) 11:52, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

See Smithsonian data pool. https://www.science.smith.edu/climatelit/the-effects-of-the-little-ice-age/#:~:text=Even%20though%20average%20annual%20temperatures,relative%20to%20thousand%2Dyear%20averages. 96.233.147.155 (talk) 11:52, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I stand self corrcted the aggregate is a different pool sample pool for the Smithsonian data. 96.233.147.155 (talk) 11:58, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

The article says ice age, not the "Little Ice Age" text, but I think it should say glacial period

The Earth is in a 2.56 million-year ice age named the Quaternary Glaciation. The ice age is composed of about 90,000 year glacial periods that alternate with about 10,000 year interglacial periods, such as the current Holocene interglacial period that has in effect for the past 11,700 years. If something is in the 2.56 million-year time frame it is either in a glacial period or an interglacial period. For the Quaternary Glaciation to end all natural ice on Earth will have to melt. Scvblwxq (talk) 03:12, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Of the 176 uses of "Ice Age" in the article, the first 30 (all I could be bothered to check) all say "Little Ice Age" except the 2nd sentence, which reads "It was not a true ice age of global extent", so I think your "The article says ice age, not the "Little Ice Age" text [?]" is just incorrect (as well as ungrammatical and unclear). "Little Ice Age" is an established term, used by many sources, and I suspect predating the contemporary terminology. Johnbod (talk) 04:57, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Incorrect citation

This sentence has an error in citation:

"In the years 1265, 1277 and 1297–1298 Byzantine sources describe extremely harsh cold. Also, around 1300, there were harsh winters in 1298/1299 in the Middle East."

It is cited to Sarah Kate Raphael, Climate and Political Climate page 22. However, this information is not found on that page. Search for the correct page? Enviroseb (talk) 17:30, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

It was not a true ice age of global extent

This article seems quite contradictory, it says that the LIA suggests largely independent regional climate changes rather than a global synchronous event. However looking at the section about regions, almost all seem to have the same coldest period (late 16th-19th century) North America, Africa, South Africa, China, Australia and New Zealand, Middle East and Antarctica whose results show synchronous cooling with the Greenland ice core. Your first region that you cover is Europe, and your opening phrase is: Drangajokull, Iceland’s northermost glacier, reached its maximum extent during the LIA around 1400 CE! this seems quite remarkable as most regions experienced cooling in the 16th- 19th C, this is quite a big mistake the conclusion of the paper states the maximum extent around 1665 +_30CE or 1765+_ 40CE, the glacier STARTS to grow around 1400CE! A large difference. In Mann 2003 “Little Age Age” it says that North America was not cooler in the 17th C despite the evidence in you article, however there seemed to be extreme cold periods in the 19th C, he justifies this because New York Harbour froze over during this period. The Thames froze over in 1739-40, 1789, and 1814, the Hudson River froze over in 1720,1780 and 1821! Quite a similar period in time. 92.184.145.3 (talk) 20:50, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

The deciding factor re whether something is global is the global average temperature plotted continuously over time. Here, the lead graphic File:2000+ year global temperature including Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age - Ed Hawkins.svg shows LIA to not be global in extent. —RCraig09 (talk) 03:05, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Drangajokull glacier

The first phrase in the section about Europe says that the Drangajokull glacier reached its maximum LIA extent around 1400. In the paper by David J Harning the conclusion says “the final expansion to its peak LIA dimensions most likely occurred at either 1665+_30CE or 1765+_40CE” The figure 1400 is extremely misleading. 92.184.145.3 (talk) 07:59, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Thomas Gorges

Cite: In 1642, Thomas Gorges wrote that between 1637 and 1645, colonists in Maine (then part of Massachusetts) experienced horrendous weather conditions

Excuse me, but how Gorges in 1642 could wrote anything about 1643-1645? Looks like some kind of a misprint 5.44.172.117 (talk) 17:49, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

Well spotted!

I reviewed the source and it appears that Thomas Gorges wrote about the weather repeatedly and that two examples of this got merged together in the article you cited.

I'm not personally super familiar with the subject at hand, so I just removed the start of the sentence. If you'd like to improve upon this yourself, you're welcome to be WP:BOLD and do your best! No contribution is ever perfect; the wiki is improved by editors each building on others' work.

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