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Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2024

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Incorrect natural abundance

The natural abundance of Li-6 and Li-7 are given in the article as 4.85% and 95.15%, respectively. However, several other sources quote values of 7.59% and 92.41%, including the original source that Ref 6 quotes. I am simply unable to find a first-hand reference that quotes the abundances mentioned in the article. Therefore i propose the adjustment of the values in table "Main isotopes". Heppatyttö15 (talk) 12:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

The essential problem is that commercial lithium is often depleted of the minor isotope, and does not match the natural abundance. The listed abundances are the midpoints of the intervals given by IUPAC. There used to be a comment to this effect, but it was removed. I should put it back. Double sharp (talk) 13:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
Replaced with the intervals themselves. Double sharp (talk) 13:23, 19 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Reference on the zero oxidization state of Lithium

The following content appears on a reference for the "0" oxidation state of Lithium:

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That paper never discusses oxidation state of Li as far as I can tell.

I don't think the zero oxidation state of any element is notable or needs a reference. Johnjbarton (talk) 23:26, 5 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Exactly.--Smokefoot (talk) 23:45, 5 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Please get consensus for this at WT:ELEM. All of the element-infoboxes use a central data-set. And it should also presumably be in sync with Template:List of oxidation states of the elements that is used in the oxidation state article, which explicitly notes that it's all about compounds and complexes. That means 0 is not automatically listed for every element, because standard state is not a combination with another element. DMacks (talk) 10:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

First sentence

First sentence should not be "Lithium is a silvery soft alkali metal." it should be "lithium is a chemical element with the symbol li and atomic number 3 2603:8080:D03:89D4:D503:4989:CB26:4FAF (talk) 03:24, 6 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ayup, fixed. Thanks for reporting it! DMacks (talk) 10:12, 6 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
For reference, the consensus seems to be Wikipedia:WikiProject Elements/Guidelines. fgnievinski (talk) 00:31, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
That page "is currently inactive and is retained for historical reference." (was marked 'historical' almost four years ago). The most recent consensus is Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elements/Archive_62#"a" chemical element or "the" chemical element. DMacks (talk) 06:21, 7 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Please add this

"Lithium itself is a non-renewable resource.[1]" just after this existing sentence: "It has been argued that lithium will be one of the main objects of geopolitical competition in a world running on renewable energy and dependent on batteries, but this perspective has also been criticised for underestimating the power of economic incentives for expanded production.[98]". Also add a link to geopolitical (geopolitics). Desalado (talk) 14:19, 12 December 2024 (UTC) Template:ReflisttalkReply

Sorry I don't understand the point of adding that sentence. There are very few renewable resources: why would anyone expect lithium to be among them? I move the sentence, reworded it, and linked it as you suggested. Johnjbarton (talk) 23:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for answering, Johnjbarton. The point of the sentence is to make clear that while lithium is important for certain renewable energy technology, it is itself not renewable. I think it is a valid point to tell the reader this, since while it may seem obvious to some we should not expect the reader to be aware of this situation. Desalado (talk) 10:46, 13 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Please add this 2

If a helpful editor can add this under "Environmental issues":

Some animal species associated to salt lakes in the Lithium Triangle are particularly threatened by the damages of lithium production to the local ecosystem, including the Andean flamingo[2] and Orestias parinacotensis, a small fish locally known as "karachi".[3]

Sincerely, Desalado (talk) 11:39, 13 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Review of brine based extraction methods.

The current section on Extraction ends with a mish-mash of maybe-technologies with primary and newsy sources. I think a review source like

  • Abdullah Khalil, Shabin Mohammed, Raed Hashaikeh, Nidal Hilal, Lithium recovery from brine: Recent developments and challenges, Desalination,Volume 528, 2022,115611,ISSN 0011-9164, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.desal.2022.115611.

would be a much better approach. Section 1 of the review document the changing research scene and section 2 lists various options being explored. The conclusion is that no new method has reached production potential.

I would write such a summary but it would mean removing some existing content. Comments? Johnjbarton (talk) 16:21, 14 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

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