Talk:Lists of maraji

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the Discussions, Suggestions, Consensus & Decisions (regarding ordering of lists of Living Maraji & Deceased Maraji). Please do not modify it.

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Consensus Summary regarding ordering of lists of Living Maraji & Deceased Maraji
Consensus Summary: Suggestions regarding Spelling of Names Untitled Name column will: list Names as is said on official websites include standardized transliteration of name accompanying Arabic text (at start simple transliteration following by gradual up-gradation to one with Umlauts & Diaeresis) Common names should also be listed (for purpose of ordering) This will be arranged as following: With horizontal lines in cell, Common name(English | Arabic) at top then English in Mid & Arabic below with this arrangement the Name column will look as: Name Khomeini - خمینی Sayyid Ruhollah Mousavi Khomeini روح الله موسوی خمینی This will be applicable for both living & deceased Maraji.
Consensus Summary: Suggestions regarding Titles Regarding titles it is agreed upon: include the title in their name For full names: include genealogical titles (e.g. Sayyid, Mirza, etc) in their names leaving aside honorary titles (e.g. Shaikh) For common names: include title(genealogical/honorary) if Maraja is known by them e.g. Shaykh Saduq, Shaykh-e-Bahai, etc.
Consensus Summary: the Picture column should be the second column The Picture column will be moved to second column position.
Consensus Summary: Suggestions regarding Years of Birth/Death We'll be including Lunar Hijri years to the Year of Birth & Year of Death, with horizontal line in mid having CE year above and AH below. Format of Year columns will be as below: Year of Birth CE AH Year of Death CE AH 810 250 941 329
Consensus Summary: Suggestions regarding ordering - List of Living Maraji arrange list as per the common names (& not the full names) means names of Marja as he is known to general public without any prefixes like Al, Agha, Aqa, Syed, Mirza, etc. Dictionary method will be applicable here to arrange similar/same common names, e.g. take case of Bashir Hussain Najafi & Mohammad Hussain Najafi; while listing we'll use Najafi - Bashir Hussain & Najafi - Mohammad Hussain; so we'll place Bashir Hussain Najafi before Mohammad Hussain Najafi. Year of Birth will be used as a back-up option for arrangement if in case there is no difference in the name altogether; in such cases person having earlier Year of Birth will be placed above another who has later Year of Birth. Format & Formating: We will have Common Name (which is name of Marja as he is known to general public without any prefixes e.g. Sistani, Najafi, Montazari, Khamnei, etc.) above horizontal line and below it Full Name e.g. Sayyid Ruhollah Mousavi Khomeini' with all titles, prefixes & suffixes. Default ordering will be according to Common Name. e.g. Name خمینی Sayyid Ruhollah Mousavi Khomeini روح الله موسوی خمینی
Consensus Summary: Suggestions regarding ordering - List of Deceased Maraji List will begin with the marja that died the earliest at the top and finish with the most recently deceased at bottom.

Decisions

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We have arrived on consensus after discussing suggestion and decided that new look of list will be as following:

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List of Living Maraji

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It will look like as follows:

S No	Image	Name	Year of Birth CE AH	Birth Place	Education	Residence	Website	Notes
1	File:Ali Khamenei,.jpg	Khamenei - خامنئي Sayyid Ali Hoseyni Khamenei السيد علي الحسینی الخامنئي	1939 1358	Template:Flagicon Iran	Template:Flagicon Iraq & Template:Flagicon Iran	Template:Flagicon Iran	Official Website	-
2	File:Ali Sistani.jpg	Sistani - سيستاني Sayyid Ali Husayni Sistani السيد علي الحسيني السيستاني‎	1930 1348	Template:Flagicon Iran	Template:Flagicon Iraq	Template:Flagicon Iraq	Official Website	-

List of Dead Maraji

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It will look like as follows:

S No	Image	Name	Year of Birth CE AH	Year of Death CE AH	Birth Place	Education	Death	Website	Notes
1	-	Shaikh Saduq - شيخ صادق Abu Jafar Muhammad ibn Ali ibn Babawaih al Qummi أبو جعفر محمد ابن علي ابن بابويه القومي	918 305	993 383	Template:Flagicon Iran	Template:Flagicon Iraq	Template:Flagicon Iran	Biography	-
2	-	Khoei - خوئي Seyyid Abu Qasim Musawi Khoei سيد ةبولقاسيم موسوي الخوي	1899 1316	1992 1412	Template:Flagicon Iran	Template:Flagicon Iraq	Template:Flagicon Iraq	Official Website	-

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Editors who took part in the Discussion

Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi^talk!, IsaKazimi (talk), NEDian (talk), عيسى (talk), Theverdict111 (talk)

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Please do not modify it.

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Maraji'

An apostrophe also is needed at the end. Because in Perso-Arabic scripts ع is a stopping consonant, Like in Sa'ad (سعد). Aminabzz (talk) 11:47, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Number 10 Muhammad Taqi Majlesi Isfahani is dead several months ago.

Number 10 Muhammad Taqi Majlesi Isfahani is dead several months ago. 2600:1700:1950:7C10:9097:4ED0:31D0:7D4A (talk) 04:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)