Talk:Line 3 Scarborough

Line 3 derailment

Template:Reply to: Since the Line 3 derailment is a major event that might result in the early closure of the line, I suggest adding the following entry to the article, to be updated later as the cause of the accident and the fate of the line become known:

On July 24, 2023, the last car of a train on Line 3 Scarborough derailed south of Ellesmere station. There were 45 people were on board the train with 5 injuries reported.(CityNews ref) The TTC estimated that the line would stay closed until at least mid-August 2023, or possibly forever given its scheduled closure in November 2023; the cause of the accident was not yet known.(Star ref)

Any objections? Naturally, I would format the refs properly. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 21:23, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

I would go with:

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—Joeyconnick (talk) 21:45, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Done! But I changed the order of the clauses in the last sentence to be more chronological: mid-August before November. I intend to make the same entry in TTC incidents, perhaps tomorrow. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 23:19, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I will clean both up and clarify them as well once I have the time to do so. I have also added the entry myself in Toronto Transit Commission incidents anyways, mostly unchanged. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 01:42, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Surface connections

Template:Reply to Route 903 Scarborough Express has replaced the Line 3 shuttle buses as of August 26, 2023 as per a TTC article. Since route 903 will not be stopping at Lawrence East station, Ellesmere station, Midland station (Toronto) and McCowan station, I suggest that we delete the "Surface connections" section from each of these 4 articles. Any objections? TheTrolleyPole (talk) 15:44, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

That sounds reasonable to me. Unless there are some particularly notable connections that should continue to be part of a station article. BLAIXX 15:52, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

I changed the McCowan station article to summarize the number of routes hovering around the station instead of listing the routes. The route list I deleted appeared to be incomplete comparing it to the TTC station page. Does this address your concern about "particularly notable connections"? TheTrolleyPole (talk) 01:34, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

I agree with Blaixx here. ~UN6892 ^t_c 16:57, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

I also agree. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:19, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

File:Yes check.svg Done. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 21:24, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Rename article to Scarborough RT?

The now defunct line only carried the name "Line 3 Scarborough" for the last 10 years of its operation, while for most of its operation (1985 to 2013) it was known as the Scarborough RT. Since this is now a retrospective article, I suggest changing the article title to reflect the name the line carried for most of its existence. Cupofteaguy (talk) 02:17, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Since the Ontario Line is tentatively given the Line 3 name and colour, it would make sense to rename the article to the original name of Scarborough RT. However, I would wait for others to reply first. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 13:05, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

I think the name has been "Line 3 Scarborough" for long enough that that's how people will refer to it "posthumously". In other Wikipedia articles for example, I think we will write is as "... the former Line 3 Scarborough". In that sense it would be better to not change the title so we don't have to pipe. Ultimately though I think it comes down to WP:COMMONNAME. If the common name reverts back to Scarborough RT, then we should move the article. I don't think that has happened yet. BLAIXX 13:56, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

100% against renaming... multiple sources refer to it as Line 3 and that's also its official name. When (and if... this is transit in Toronto, after all) a new Line 3 emerges, this can become "Line 3 Scarborough (1985)". And honestly it might be appropriate to wait a few years before switching "Ontario Line" to "Line 3" (if Line 3 is finished and they stick with the plan to call it that)—or "Line 3 Scarborough ([start date])" since it will unlikely to be WP:PRIMARY at first—for the reason Blaixx mentions: people might not use the official name immediately upon launch. —Joeyconnick (talk) 16:55, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Fair enough. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:03, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

MM/DD/YYYY year format

Why does the article use mdy date format? that is not the canadian standard, right? I was under the impression that articles were supposed to use the format following the location they are about Ramdom-kid-editor (talk) 18:51, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Canada uses both formats (MOS:DATETIES) but if anything, I find MDY to be more common. BLAIXX 19:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

See here: Date and time notation in Canada. Both formats are used, but MM/DD/YYYY is more common. Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 00:18, 22 January 2025 (UTC)