Talk:Latrun

Latrun Monastery

We could use an article on the Trappist monastery (hint, hint). Zero^talk 15:34, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the Israeli occupation

Hertz1888, why did you revert? Secondly, it is not a minor edit. Why do you keep the POV view that Jordan occupied the area but Israel did not (when in fact it does it to today)? --IRISZOOM (talk) 01:45, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Then say so, but make it grammatical, which was my entire simple point. Occupation is over a period of time, capture is an event. Hertz1888 (talk) 01:53, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Then you could have fixed it, instead of keeping the POV view, which still remains now. It is not grammatical wrong to say it was occupied in 1967. --IRISZOOM (talk) 02:04, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't agree on either point. Seems to me to read even-handedly enough now, and the leftover sentence fragment is gone. Hertz1888 (talk) 02:47, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

The world views the West Bank as occupied, no matter if you agree with it or not, and this is how it is displayed in Wikipedia. According to your logic, if it's about saying it was captured in 1967, the part "remains under Israeli control" should be changed to "occupied", as it says Jordan occupied it from 1948 to 1967. --IRISZOOM (talk) 03:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Hertz1888, you seem to have left the discussion as I see you have edited other pages but not responded here. I repeat that this is a POV problem and there is reason to keep having it like that. --IRISZOOM (talk) 22:41, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I have already said what I think as to both grammar and balance. Perhaps someone else will see fit to comment. Hertz1888 (talk) 00:02, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

As I said in response to that on 03:00, 18 February and didn't get any answer, if it's about that the "correct thing" is to write that what happened in 1967 was a "capture", the part "remains under Israeli control" should then be changed to "remains under Israeli occupation", as this fits what you said were "was occupied during a certain period". So as it was occupied from 1948 to 1967 by Jordan, from 1967 until today, it has been occupied by Israel. This is the only balanced thing to do. Saying one thing was occupation while the other thing was just "capture" and "control" is unacceptable. So again, if it's about describing what "was occupied during a certain period", saying it has been occupied since 1967 perfectly match that. What do you think? Don't this describe what happened during this "certain period"? --IRISZOOM (talk) 00:40, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

This is how I meant to phrase it. You say that it was about the issue of capture in 1967, which remains after my edit, and saying it remains under Israeli occupation meets the argument you had about "occupied during a certain period". --IRISZOOM (talk) 05:14, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I see you've gone ahead and made an edit. It certainly is grammatical, though hardly "the only balanced thing to do". Time to move on. Hertz1888 (talk) 07:22, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

I think it's balanced to call the right name regarding both sides. --IRISZOOM (talk) 02:29, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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Picture

Are these pictures (from 1587 and 1619) from the then ruined Latrun? Any suggestions? Huldra (talk) 22:11, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

• Domus Boni Latronis, 1587
  Domus Boni Latronis, 1587
• Domus Boni Latronis, 1619
  Domus Boni Latronis, 1619