Talk:Larry Doby

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Year of birth

I'm not sure about the Larry Doby's birth year. Some sources say 1923, others say 1924. I'm going with 1923, because that is the year in MLB's obituary of Doby. [1] RADICALBENDER★ 18:54, 15 May 2004 (UTC)

No worries, I've read multiple sources that state 1923. The toughest part is NNL stats. Zepppep (talk) 11:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

biography?

is there a good biography out there about doby? Kingturtle 23:07, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Check the references section. The definitive is one is by Joseph Thomas Moore. Zepppep (talk) 11:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Sports Illustrated editorial.

About this nugget, "During the 1997 season, when the long-departed Jackie Robinson's number 42 was being retired throughout baseball, and the still-living Larry Doby was being virtually ignored by the media, an editorial in Sports Illustrated pointed out that Doby had to suffer the same indignities that Robinson did, and with nowhere near the media attention and implicit support."

Does anyone have the original editorial article handy, or at least know in which issue it was published?Perplexed 15:44, 9 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Perplexed (talk • contribs)

Photo of Doby and Gromek

View the picture from the Plain Dealer here. Zepppep (talk) 07:28, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Image

I've been asked to help peer-review this for possible advancement to FA. I made some technical edits for footnote placement and the like, and more neutral language in one instance. It's a long and well-written article with encyclopedic tone. Without combing through it, the only significant addition I would make is to caption and identify the image "Larry Doby 1951.jpg," a Bowman baseball card. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:48, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Comments on 1947 section

Wizardman asked me to look at this section with a view to FAC. I did some cutting, which anyone can freely revert if I've messed anything up.

• ”Veeck hoped a quick arrival to Cleveland would keep the pressure Doby would feel to a minimum.”: I don’t quite understand this.
• ”Unlike the Brooklyn Dodgers' Branch Rickey who in 1945 declined to pay for the purchasing rights of Robinson with the Kansas City Monarchs, Veeck was "determined to buy Doby's contract from the Eagles.””: And I’m not too sure about this. The quote also requires in-text attribution.
• I’m not too sure about using “her second baseman” to describe Doby.
• ”The two took a train from Newark to Chicago where the Indians were scheduled to play the Chicago White Sox the next day.”: Apparently unreferenced at the end of the paragraph.
• ”Veeck hired two plainclothes police officers to accompany Doby as he went to Comiskey Park to prevent the large number of black fans from affecting the first black player to enter an American League stadium.”: These two ideas do not seem connected. How could the police stop Doby being affected?
• ”Bill Veeck in the 1949 movie The Kid from Cleveland tells the story that Gordon struck out on three swings in his immediate at-bat after Doby to save face for his new teammate. However, Doby's second strike was the result of a foul ball, both the Associated Press and Chicago Tribune stated Doby struck out on five pitches instead of three, and in addition, Gordon was standing on third base during Doby's at-bat.”: This seems to waste a lot of time refuting something which doesn’t seem that important.
• We also seem to dwell too long on the glove.
• We mention his unfriendly team-mates twice, and we may be labouring the point.
• I think some of the paragraphs would stand splitting, as it is quite a heavy wall of text in places. I think a few parts lend themselves to being broken up. Sarastro1 (talk) 22:27, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

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What's the convention for calling the Cleveland Team?

Since the Cleveland baseball team changed its name to "The Guardians," some parts of the article inconsistently use that current name in historical context. Meanwhile, the deprecated old name, "Indians," is used throughout much of the article. Should the old name be replaced with the new name? If it's decided to replace the old name, there should be mention early in the article that original name was replaced with the current name.~~ Abebenjoe (talk) 03:18, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

I see zero places in the article where it uses Guardians (except for the infobox but I don't really count that as "the article"). For the prose itself obviously Indians would be used since that was the team name when Doby played even if it's the Guarrdians for current players. Wizardman 03:53, 26 February 2023 (UTC)