Talk:John Philip Sousa
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Portuguese Pronounciation
Shouldn't "Sousa" be pronounced s-ô-z-a rather than s-oo-s-a (ô as in french 'eau')? It is, after all a Portuguese name, no matter the nationality of the person. 4ndrepd (talk) 21:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
- There's a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znUKyIv4Yrk Bryard (talk) 23:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
JPS award
I wasn't sure how to mention in an edit that this article implies the JPS Foundation began issuing awards in the 1980s. But I received the JPS Award in 1978, and I think it was around long before that. Maybe someone can research this further and make a formal edit. Thanks. ````Jason Ford, El Cajon, Calif. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8801:8903:D100:F42B:6AFC:63AF:CFD3 (talk) 16:45, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
POTD
the liberty ship
can someone with prose abilties work in the subtle reference to SS John Philip Sousa !!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dave Rave (talk • contribs) 06:36, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
Edits to lead
I have been bold and done some re-wording in the lead. To me, it seemed to read rather like "From 1880 until his death, he focused exclusively on conducting and writing music, and after his death he eventually rejoined the Marine Band", so I moved the "From 1880 until his death" bit to later in the paragraph. Also, I could see no reason to say "eventually" when we know the exact year, so I changed it ti 1880, and also added that he performed on the violin in the years in between.
I also took out "who is also known as 'The March King'"" from the sentence, "He is known as 'The March King' or the 'American March King', to distinguish him from his British counterpart Kenneth J. Alford who is also known as 'The March King'", as I consider it redundant. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:8DBE:E82E:BB6:69C8 (talk) 14:28, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
Controversy
Why is there no mention of any of the minstrel songs his band played? Also why no mention of his “Indian” music? Maybe make this entry look less like a list of accomplishments and more like an encyclopedia article? 173.81.120.144 (talk) 03:58, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
Bavaria Wikilink
In the Early life and education section, Maria Elisabeth Trinkhaus is listed as German and from Bavaria, with the link to the present-day Free State of Bavaria. Since she lived from May 20, 1826 – August 25, 1908, shouldn't this link to Kingdom of Bavaria (1806-1918) instead? Theodore Kloba (☎) 15:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, good catch. Something like that I think you can just go ahead and fix without discussion. GA-RT-22 (talk) 16:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Columbia recordings conducted by Sousa
Regarding this: "The Columbia Phonograph Company produced 60 recordings of the Marine Band conducted by Sousa". I believe there is some disagreement about this among scholars. Sousa hated the phonograph and legend is that the Columbia recordings were conducted by someone else. Here's a source: "Sousa’s Band also made recordings for the Columbia, Edison, and Berliner labels, but Sousa very rarely conducted his ensemble during those sessions." [1] GA-RT-22 (talk) 13:18, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- It turns out this wasn't supported by the cited source so I have removed it. GA-RT-22 (talk) 16:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Classical composer?
I was quite surprised to find Sousa in the "classical composer" categories. People aren't supposed to be added to categories without some support and sources for that in the article, so it would be nice if someone could add that. GA-RT-22 (talk) 13:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- He wrote operettas, so I'd think that put him in the "classical" category, unless that's classical as distingushed from baroque, romantic, etc. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:08, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- What makes him not a classical composer? Would you say that Johann Strauss Jr. isn't one either? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 06:09, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
GA Reassessment
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The article says that this march is dedicated to Tamanend. But the cited source says it's dedicated to Tecumseh. The confusion is because it's dedicated to a statue of Tamanend, but that statue is nicknamed Tecumseh. See United States Naval Academy#Monuments and memorials. Not sure what to do about this. GA-RT-22 (talk) 07:55, 8 February 2025 (UTC)