Talk:John Cena

Movie

starred in Vacation Friends 2A00:23EE:1290:31F7:E05D:6892:D8C3:346C (talk) 22:30, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

It's listed on his filmography article. 68.49.126.217 (talk) 03:14, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Cena is now an 18-Time Champion (April 2025)

John Cena is an 18 time World Champion, as WWE have confirmed the the Universal Title is still active, so by winning the Undisputed Title, you win both belts! When WWE update the title page, if John is shown as WWE and Universal Champion, then it means he's 18 time champion! When Cody won the title, the WWE title page showed him as WWE Champion and Universal Champion.

That’s what confuses me. Cena is a 17 time world champion, recognized by WWE. But he also just won the Universal Championship. I would wait for WWE to update their page on wwe.com, as it still displays Bron Breakker as Intercontinental Champion and Cody Rhodes as WWE Champion. Thatoneguylol101 (talk) 03:30, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

WWE have yet to update the WWE Championship and WWE Universal Championship records, as Cody is still listed as Champion for both titles. I have a feeling something is going to happen, tonight on RAW. Either the WWE World or the WWE Universal Title will be retired and The Undisputed Title will just be one single title again — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.236.62 (talk • contribs)

It could happen, but we thought the same thing when Cody won the title a year ago. Ultimately this is a weird in-between where WWE are saying two contradictory things. Yes, their website lists both titles as active. However, they're also only recognising Cena has a 17 time champion. It's not on us to be able to square this circle (forgive the pun) as this would be WP:OR. Ultimately we just have to say what the sources say. FWIW, at the time of writing their website hasn't been updated and still shows Cody as champion, so let's wait and see. — Czello ^(music) 16:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

They're still showing Cody as champion because they have no idea how to fix this issue, probably waiting on clarification from Triple H and management. They updated all of the title changes except this one :D 37.116.105.33 (talk) 17:57, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

gonna be wild if they retcon cody out of being the universal champion.Muur (talk) 21:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

At a glance looks like they did just that — Czello ^(music) 23:05, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

I've had another look at the Superstar page on WWE.com and Cody HAS been removed as Universal Champion. The last recorded champion was Roman Reigns. https://www.wwe.com/titlehistory/universal-championship — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.236.62 (talk • contribs)

so theyve retconned it then. cody should be considered to be universal champion still.Muur (talk) 01:28, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2025

Hello, it says on the John CENA page that he was trained in ultimate pro wrestling, but he was actually trained in Ohio Valley wrestling, please make this change Chiefcrazybread (talk) 19:56, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

File:X mark.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Day Creature (talk) 16:00, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Retirement tour and heel turn section wording

Hi Linkin Prankster, I saw you reverted back to your version of the "Retirement tour and heel turn (2024–present)" section. Just wanted to explain why I had originally changed it. I felt the more concise version better fits Wikipedia’s neutral tone and style. Your version includes a lot of detail, which I get can be valuable, but some of the phrasing (like "viciously beat up Rhodes" or Cena saying he'll "ruin" wrestling) comes across as a bit too dramatic or editorial for an encyclopedia.

Also, the article is already getting pretty long, and I think it’s important we keep sections readable and focused on what’s most relevant or well-covered in reliable sources. The shorter version still covers the key events, but in a cleaner and more neutral way.

For reference, here are both versions for comparison:

Your version (currently in the article):

Cena made a surprise appearance at Money in the Bank on July 6, 2024 to announce his retirement from in-ring action at the end of 2025. At the Raw premiere on Netflix on January 6, 2025, Cena announced he would compete in the Royal Rumble match at the namesake event on February 1, where he scored three eliminations, but was ultimately the last competitor eliminated by the winner Jey Uso. In the Royal Rumble post-show press conference, Cena announced he would compete in the Elimination Chamber match at the eponymous event on March 1.

Cena won the Elimination Chamber match by last eliminating CM Punk via technical submission, tying Triple H's record for the most Elimination Chamber victories at four and earning an Undisputed WWE Championship match against Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania 41. After the match, Cena viciously beat up Rhodes and aligned himself with The Rock, turning heel for the first time since 2003. In subsequent appearances, he criticized the fans and their treatment of him over the years, and vowed to "ruin" wrestling and retire as champion. In the main event of Night 2 of WrestleMania 41 on April 20, Cena defeated Rhodes with help from The Rock's ally Travis Scott to win the Undisputed WWE Championship, his record 17th world championship.

On the Raw after WrestleMania 41, whilst gloating about his title win, Cena was attacked by Randy Orton, setting up a title match at Backlash on May 10, where Cena controversially defeated Orton to retain the title after interference from R-Truth. In the post-show press conference, Cena hit R-Truth with an Attitude Adjustment when the latter interrupted him, setting up a match between them on May 24 at Saturday Night's Main Event XXXIX, where Cena defeated R-Truth with a low blow. He later interfered in the main event between Jey Uso and Logan Paul for the World Heavyweight Championship, which Uso won with an assist from a returning Rhodes, setting up a tag team match between Cena and Paul against Uso and Rhodes at Money in the Bank on June 7, which Cena and Paul lost after interference from R-Truth.

On the June 9 episode of Raw, Cena was confronted by CM Punk, leading to a match for the title being scheduled on June 28 at Night of Champions. R-Truth (now going under the name "Ron Killings") would attack Cena twice on the June 13 episode of SmackDown, leading to a match being setup between the two on the following week's episode of SmackDown.

My preferred version:

On July 6, 2024, at Money in the Bank, John Cena announced his retirement from in-ring competition by the end of 2025. He returned to action at the Royal Rumble on February 1, 2025, where he was last eliminated by the winner Jey Uso. The following month, on March 1, he won the Elimination Chamber match, tying Triple H's record for most wins in the match type and securing an Undisputed WWE title shot at WrestleMania 41. After the match, Cena attacked champion Cody Rhodes and aligned with The Rock and Travis Scott, turning heel for the first time in over two decades. In subsequent appearances, he criticized fans and vowed to leave wrestling as champion. At WrestleMania 41 on April 20, he defeated Rhodes with help from Scott to win the Undisputed WWE Championship, becoming a record 17-time world champion.

Cena retained the championship against Randy Orton at Backlash on May 10, aided by interference from R-Truth, whom he later defeated at Saturday Night’s Main Event XXXIX on May 24. That same night, he interfered in the World Heavyweight Championship match between Jey Uso and Logan Paul. This led to a tag team match at Money in the Bank on June 7, where Cena and Paul were defeated by Rhodes and Uso, following interference from R-Truth. On the June 9 episode of Raw, Cena was confronted by CM Punk, setting up a title defense at Night of Champions on June 28.

Let me know what you think—open to working out a version that keeps it accurate and balanced. BinaryBrainBug (talk) 17:59, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

I don't see why removing a few words seems necessary. It's not really long. You also removed the part I added about upcoming match against R-Truth. Plus it seems poorly written, with poor grammar and sentence structure. Linkin Prankster (talk) 18:48, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Fair enough, but I don’t think just saying “it’s not really long” or calling the other version “poorly written” really helps move the discussion forward. My edit wasn’t just about trimming a few words, it was about tone, clarity, and making sure the section follows Wikipedia’s neutral, encyclopedic style. Some of the current wording (like “viciously beat up Rhodes” or Cena saying he’ll “ruin” wrestling) sounds more like a storyline recap than something you'd typically find in a biography.

On article length, while this section alone might not seem too long, the overall article is already pretty packed, and we should be mindful about not overloading it with excessive detail, especially things like press conference interactions or setup promos that haven’t been heavily covered in secondary sources.

If you think there are real grammar or clarity issues in the version I wrote, feel free to point them out. I’m happy to tweak it or re-add anything important (like the R-Truth match) in a more neutral tone. But I do think a cleaner, tighter version is the right direction for the article. BinaryBrainBug (talk) 19:55, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

"After the match, Cena attacked champion Cody Rhodes and aligned with The Rock and Travis Scott, turning heel for the first time in over two decades."

"In subsequent appearances, he criticized fans and vowed to leave wrestling as champion. At WrestleMania 41 on April 20, he defeated Rhodes with help from Scott to win the Undisputed WWE Championship, becoming a record 17-time world champion."

Does this look like an encyclopedia's language?

And no I don't think there's anything wrong with the length.

So far it's just you who's had a problem. If you can get a consensus then it's fair to revert. Linkin Prankster (talk) 02:51, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello. I have seen your conversation. As the template says, the article is already 11.000 words, per PAGESIZE it should be summarized or divided, so any work of compression is welcomed. 2, about the text, "Cena viciously beat up Rhodes" feels like taling form a IN-UNIVERSE perspective, which is forbbiden. Also, I would prefer "he cut a promo against the fans", since " he criticized fans and vowed to leave wrestling as champion." looks like he said so for real. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 07:50, 18 June 2025 (UTC)