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Alternative English Spellings of Jihad

I have found at least one and possibly two alternative English spellings to the word Jihad. The first is Jehad, evidenced by Encyclopedia Brittanica[1]. The second is the Jihath, evidenced here on a Vimeo Video[2] (warning graphic only sourced but not linked for this reason) and a PDF document that appears to go into detail about Paramilitary Groups in the area - I think that Sri Lanka has to work with in order to maintain control over the country. One of the groups is the Jihath Group and it appears to be a Jihadist group. The PDF is the fourth chapter in a work and is called "Partners in crime: SLAFs and Paramilitaries"[3]. I think this may be a transliteration issue because it might be that in some transliterations the "d" is replaced with a "th". Possibly because it is transliterated from a Desi background rather than an Arab background. I tried asking/looking around but couldn't get an answer. If anyone knows about Desi transliteration to English for Arabic please advise on if the word "Jihath" is actually the word "Jihad". I think its important because alternative spellings included are not dictionary styles in the sense that WikiPolicy wants to avoid; adding alternative spellings help reader understand what it is they are reading when they see alternative spellings elsewhere.

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Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2024

Template:Edit semi-protected Please add this, "The goal of Islam is world conquest followed by forced conversion or persuasion to convert to Islam.[4][5][6] 72Houris (talk) 11:38, 24 November 2024 (UTC) Template:Reflist-talkReply

Template:Notdone, sourcing does not appear to meet WP:RS or even explicitly reach such a conclusion. See WP:SYNTH. JeffSpaceman (talk) 15:50, 24 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Template:Re What about this: The Qur’an directs Muslims to spread the message of Islam worldwide declaring it to be a religion for all humankind.[7]-72Houris (talk) 15:57, 24 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
That source (Oxford University Press) says, "......jihad a continuous obligation for Muslims of all ages.", "....use their accumulated power to remove mischief from the entire world, establishing the rule of Allah.", ".....is also no doubt that the Qur’an enjoins its adherents to spread the message of Islam to the rest of the world.", "....and do not profess the Faith of Truth; [fight them] until they pay Jizya with their own hands while they are subdued.’" and "There is no doubt that the Qur’an declares Islam to be a religion for all humankind. There is also no doubt that the Qur’an enjoins its adherents to spread the message of Islam to the rest of the world."-72Houris (talk) 16:03, 24 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

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File:X mark.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the Template:Tlx template. The Edit Request Template is only intended for non-controversial edits, which this clearly is not. PianoDan (talk) 18:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

"forcibly converting polytheistic pagans during the early Muslim conquests.[14][15]: 46  "

Please remove this lie. 129.12.158.247 (talk) 03:36, 7 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

The citations don't even say that, so not only ahistorical, defamatory to the Qur'an (by failing to distinguish people's interpretation from the text) but also unacademic as the sources contained do not support the statement. 129.12.158.247 (talk) 03:40, 7 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
The article says Template:Tq which makes a clear distinction between the text and its interpretation. Kowal2701 (talk) 15:00, 8 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also even if it was 'defamatory', Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED Kowal2701 (talk) 15:01, 8 December 2024 (UTC)Reply
The source says: Template:Tq
Template:Tq Kowal2701 (talk) 14:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2024

Template:Edit semi-protected Please check what the source says and correct this sentence: In the 18th century, the Durrani Empire under the reigns of Ahmad Shah Durrani and his son and successor, Timur Shah Durrani, had declared jihads against Sikh Misls in the Punjab region, often to consolidate territory and continue Afghan their region, efforts under Ahmad Shah failed, while Timur Shah had succeeded.[108] 2406:7400:90:9B1A:8D96:6A12:576B:12FE (talk) 15:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 19:24, 17 December 2024 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2025

Template:Edit semi-protected Dune's Jihad In the Dune universe, created by Frank Herbert, "jihad" is a central and multifaceted concept, primarily associated with the Butlerian Jihad and the later Muad'Dib's Jihad. These events symbolize transformative moments in humanity’s history, shaping its political, cultural, and spiritual landscape for millennia. While inspired by historical and religious concepts of holy war, Herbert's depiction of jihad is expansive, addressing the interplay of human evolution, technology, and ideology.

The Butlerian Jihad, occurring over 10,000 years before the events of Dune, represents humanity's revolt against the domination of thinking machines. This catastrophic war led to the eradication of artificial intelligence and the establishment of the Orange Catholic Bible's tenet: "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind." The war catalyzed the development of specialized human abilities, such as the Mentats, Bene Gesserit, and Navigators of the Spacing Guild, replacing forbidden technology functions. It also created a lingering fear of machines, deeply ingrained in the collective psyche of the universe.

Muad'Dib's Jihad, led by Paul Atreides, unfolds after the events of Dune and extends across the galaxy. Sparked by Paul’s rise to power as Emperor and his manipulation of Fremen culture, the jihad is both a physical and ideological conquest. Paul's Fremen forces, driven by their messianic belief in him as the Kwisatz Haderach, wage a bloody campaign that reshapes the galactic order. Though Paul achieves his political goals, the jihad results in a staggering loss of life, with billions dying in its wake. This war's moral and philosophical consequences weigh heavily on Paul, reflecting Herbert's exploration of the unintended consequences of charismatic leadership and religious fervor.

Herbert uses the concept of jihad to explore broader themes, including the dangers of combining religion and politics, the unpredictability of human-driven movements, and the limitations of prescience. Despite his foresight, Paul’s struggle to control the jihad underscores the idea that once a movement gains momentum, it can become uncontrollable, even for its initiator. This tension between individual agency and collective action is a recurring theme in the series.

The legacy of jihad in the Dune universe is both transformative and cautionary. While it establishes a new order and strengthens human resilience, it also serves as a stark reminder of the destructive potential of ideology and violence. Through his nuanced portrayal, Herbert invites readers to reflect on the cyclical nature of history and humanity's capacity for greatness and self-destruction. 121.75.202.128 (talk) 04:47, 11 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. A1Cafel (talk) 04:51, 11 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

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103.42.228.16 (talk) 13:37, 26 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

  1. https://www.britannica.com/topic/jihad
  2. https://vimeo.com/122172604
  3. https://www.tamilnet.com/img/publish/2011/12/Chapter_4_Partners_in_Crime.pdf
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