Talk:Jeff Buckley

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Jeff Buckley as keyboardist

Latest comment: 28 September 20107 comments3 people in discussion

I thought I'd bring attention to the fact that this article does not mention the fact that Jeff Buckley played keyboard instruments while writing and recording music. If you do not believe me, check the album credits for Grace and you will see that JB contributes keyboard parts to a few of the tracks. I've even seen photos of him behind pianos and playing them. I haven't found any sources on the Internet to verify this, but it should be included regardless. CR4ZE (talk) 10:44, 4 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

By keyboards I think you're referring to the harmonium that Jeff played, which is a keyed instrument. He used it in the intro to Lover, You Should've Come Over. I agree, this should be included in Jeff's 'Instruments' section. Here are Jeff's album credits from Grace: Voice, Guitars, Harmonium, Organ, Dulcimer, Tabla. These should also be included. I've tried editing Jeff's instrument section before but it kept on getting deleted, even though I gave a reference link in my edit summary. Also under Jeff's 'Notable Instruments' section it only mentions that he played a Fender Telecaster. He also played a Gibson Les Paul Custom (Black Beauty), and Rickenbacker 360/12. And finally some edits need to be made to Jeff's 'Genres' section. Currently it states that Jeff's music is alternative rock and folk. This is very vague and not even accurate. Jeff's music was far from folk or alternative. Personally I think his 'Genres' section should read as following, minus the bracketed examples. Rock, Jazz, Blues, Avant-garde (ex. Tongue), Qawwali (ex. Yeh Ho Halka Halka Saroor Hai, Dream Brother, New Year's Prayer), Classical (ex. Corpus Christi Carol, Hallelujah, etc.) Ambient (ex. You & I). I don't think there should be any mention of Jeff's music being considered folk. Folk music afterall is played on an acoustic guitar. All of Jeff's songs are electric. He even said himself, "folk is dead" and he clearly didn't want to be categorized as such an artist.DreamBrother83 (talk) 20:47, 28 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

I have tried uploading a higher resolution image of Jeff's current Wiki profile photo and gave proper references but it keeps getting reverted to the lower resolution version. Any idea why this is keeps occurring?DreamBrother83 (talk) 20:51, 28 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

You have obviously not read the WP:NFCC criteria. Nymf _hideliho! 20:54, 28 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

What are you referring to specifically?DreamBrother83 (talk) 22:55, 28 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Policy number 3b. Is says that low rather than high resolution should be used. Nymf _hideliho! 23:01, 28 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Would you mind giving me a hand with this please? Instruments played by Jeff that should be included in his 'Instruments' section. Here are Jeff's album credits from Grace: Voice, Guitars, Harmonium, Organ, Dulcimer, Tabla. These should also be included. I've tried editing Jeff's instrument section before but it kept on getting deleted, even though I gave a reference link in my edit summary. (http://www.jeffbuckley.com/pages/albums/grace) Also under Jeff's 'Notable Instruments' section it only mentions that he played a Fender Telecaster. He also played a Gibson Les Paul Custom (Black Beauty), and Rickenbacker 360/12.(http://www.jeffbuckley.com/rfuller/buckley/faq/25gear.html).DreamBrother83 (talk) 23:54, 28 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Jeff Buckley Death

Latest comment: 8 December 20104 comments2 people in discussion

Well cited information surronding an artists death under odd circumstances should be allowed. I.e. what he was wearing, what he was saying/singing, what possessions were on him. Uberciter (talk) 01:35, 7 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

And why is this trivia worth mentioning? Even if the citation is valid.--Michig (talk) 06:36, 8 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

And it appears that the citation does not mention anything about toothpicks - I found the text of that article here. I have therefore removed the sentence.--Michig (talk) 07:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Glad we could settle that. Uberciter (talk) 20:24, 8 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Quick review

Latest comment: 14 February 20128 comments4 people in discussion

hello,

I see it was nominated at GAN. I think the article is not bad, but also not quite good. For example, the article does not mention his singing ability, which is really disapointing as his voice is really amazing (he was voted by Rolling Stones as one of the greatest singers of all time, for example). There should be a section about his singing style, his vocal range and other vocal styles. Also, quotes should not be italicized. Good luck with the GAN! Regards.--♫GoP♫_T ^C _N 13:57, 12 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Absolutely, and the plethora of recent edits detract from the article. In what way is Jeff Buckley associated with America Idol? (Snoop God (talk) 23:13, 12 February 2012 (UTC))Reply

In the way that it was the primary driver for Buckley reaching number 1 on a Billboard chart. The same can be said for X Factor, which led to his high charting position in the UK. If you don't think that's relevant, and detracts from the article, then you have a highly idiosyncratic concept of relevance. SFB 20:20, 13 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

It still does not require a dedicated section. It was better as it was, as part of the previous section. Also, Buckley had a multi octave range, not strictly tenor, (tenor was probably the least prominent in his facility) so that would need to be changed also. Lastly, please do not remove content without discussing it here first. Basically, you should not delete anything that is referenced unless you have a good reason. Please make these changes before I start cutting it up. Thanks. (Snoop God (talk) 21:23, 13 February 2012 (UTC))Reply

The 'Equipment' section should also be reverted. A few contributors added much content last year, and actually discussed that in depth. Check the history, please. (Snoop God (talk) 21:33, 13 February 2012 (UTC))Reply

Snoop God, I think it is far more sensible to give a concise summary of his most important instruments, in prose, than to provide a huge list of every instrument he ever used. Sillyfolkboy, while I'm here, please be careful not to use self published sources, I hope you aren't just rushing the artistry section. It needs to be done properly, with good sources. --Lobo (talk) 22:01, 13 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Snoop God, it is you who has re-instated the American Idol/X-Factor to its own dedicated section, not me. Please try to find one instance of where I removed cited facts. In terms of the equipment, I merely condensed it to the most important facets (per Good Article criteria about incorporating lists into prose) and avoided an exhaustive list of equipment which goes far beyond what is desired of a general encyclopaedic article. I'm happy to discuss major changes on talk page. As far as fixing dead links, removing material which has been uncited for two years, and adding citations to the text, I don't feel I need the permission of a group consensus to proceed.

I apologise for wasting your time with these matters Lobo. Frankly I can no longer be bothered going to the effort of contributing to this article when it is an unenjoyable and thankless task. SFB 19:16, 14 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

I don't blame you at all for being frustrated, SFB. I strongly disagree with Snoop God reverting the page, and left him a comment earlier today saying as much. You made good changes for the article, and to have them reverted must be very annoying. I'm sure you both just want the best for the article, but Snoop God, I'm baffled as to how you thought SFB's changes were unconstructive. I hope you won't stop your work on the page SFB, you are doing good stuff for it. --Lobo (talk) 19:36, 14 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Talk:Jeff Buckley/GA2

Issue still needs to be solved

Latest comment: 17 February 20123 comments2 people in discussion

I am saddened that the issues this page was having seem to have ended with Sillyforkboy retreating. I don't want to see it stop here, because SFB was clearly doing good things for the page and aiming to get it to GA status. And currently, we have the page settling on an inferior version. So I am going to intervene. Snoop God, what are you currently thinking? Would you be willing to see the page go back to how it was just before you reverted? And if not, can you please clearly explain what it is about that version you think is problematic. --Lobo (talk) 20:31, 17 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I will revert my last undo. Since no one else edited or contributed to the discussion I am okay compromising on this and will go with the majority. Snoop God (talk) 21:21, 17 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, I appreciate that. Now, someone get this amazing man's page to GA status! --Lobo (talk) 22:18, 17 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

"in a good frame of mind prior to the accident"?

Latest comment: 5 February 20141 comment1 person in discussion

Someone who goes swimming fully dressed - including booths might not be that sane... --09:29, 25 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.52.12.221 (talk)

That's nothing but your point of view which, in the big world outside it, is garbage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:AE26:9E99:125:1EAB:988A:F62B (talk) 18:47, 5 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Latest comment: 13 September 20201 comment1 person in discussion

Does anyone have suggestions regarding a change to Jeff's main photo? The one that is currently used isn't very good. It's black and white, and it isn't the most complimentary shot of him. I spoke with Merri Cyr, years ago, with respect to using some of her photos in Jeff's Wikipedia article, and she gave me her blessing. I never got around to sifting through her photos and selecting any, though. Additionally, she and I are no longer on speaking terms. Would someone be willing to reach out to her and ask if she would still oblige to let us use some of her photos in said article? Not only could one of hers be used as Jeff's main photo, but other photos of her could be incorporated elsewhere, such as the portion that describes Jeff's Sin-é days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DreamBrother83 (talk • contribs) 05:15, 13 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Main page has several error's.

Latest comment: 22 September 20241 comment1 person in discussion

Can someone help me out an add this news article / interview with Jeff Buckley's manager & mother from Australia ( dated 14 september 2024 ) to the main page. ( im old an don't want to mess up the main page by accident. Much thanks.

Also when it comes to Australia the main page has several errors that contradict both Jeffs Mother & his Biographer

For a sts arter the main page sez Jeff sold some 85000 Albums in Australia but it was aculy over 500,000.

The main page gets wrong how many time Jeff toured Australia.

& gets wrong a few other facts aswell.

From News Article in Australia.....see below.

Jeff Buckley's Hallelujah may not have reached its heights without Australia

[1]https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-14/jeff-buckley-grace-hallelujah-album-30-years/104303150?utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web

""While much of the world learned of Buckley's musical beauty posthumously, Australia adored him in his prime.""

""Buckley toured Australia twice before his death, with his shows down under subsequently being seen as the stuff of legend.""

"""Why Australia in particular? It's a tricky one," Buckley biographer Jeff Apter said.

"I think it's something to do with authenticity. Australian audiences can really spot a bullshitter. "And when they saw him play they knew, it was like, no, this guy's real. He's bleeding on stage, that's absolutely authentic." Grace would eventually sell more than 560,000 copies in Australia and reach eight-times platinum status."" 203.220.22.17 (talk) 01:07, 22 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

vocal range obsession

Latest comment: 4 June 20252 comments2 people in discussion

As always, articles about singers contain unattributed claims about the singer's vocal range. If the highest note Buckley recorded is the G5 on "Grace," then in order for Buckley to have a four-octave range, he'd have to be capable of singing a G1—that is, the note playable on the third fret of the lowest string of a bass guitar, or the lowest G on a conventional piano keyboard, a minor 7th above the piano's lowest note.

I am skeptical.

I do not know why assertions of vocal range seem exempt from the requirement that they be sourced. But claims about vocal range should always be accompanied by reference to recordings in which the singer sings the high and low notes establishing the parameters of the range. Live recordings are best, because of course in the recording studio a high note can be achieved by recording a lower pitch and altering the tape speed or digitally raising the pitch (same with low notes, with similar alterations). Spanghew2fs (talk) 15:36, 3 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

This wasn't in the provided source, so I've removed it. Popcornfud (talk) 02:55, 4 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

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