Talk:Irish Republican Army

Mistakes on the chart

I don't see how we can modify this flow chart. And knowing Wikipedia, someone would blow away the changes if I submitted them anyways. However, I'm assuming decomissionning (several entries) should read decomissioning. Additionally, I would highly recommend correcting the capitization. Some phrases are capitalized, some are not, sometimes it is Irish, sometimes it is irish. It has me strongly questioning the validity of the chart in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.77.168.19 (talk) 00:45, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects

After making some changes to the This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects section above, I realized that I should ask for discussion about the changes here. Please discuss the changes above, and say whether is any problem or not.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 00:30, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Class?

The article appears as a "Set index article." How and why is this a set index article? Maybe it should be something else.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 19:32, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

IRA funding

In approx 2007, in a press release from the White House press room, the head of the department of defence officially admitted that the CIA had funded the IRA, but clarified that the CIA weren't funding terrorism and that the money given to the IRA by the CIA for decades was a bribe, that they bribed the IRA not to set bombs off in or nearby US businesses such as McDonalds, and not to set bombs off where US tourists and US businessmen frequent.

This info should be in the wikipage, just needs someone to source it. HardeeHar (talk) 13:38, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Interesting. So they were funding and abetting terrorism, thus they should self-arrest.

Zezen (talk) 18:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

The IRA were not terrorists. Nepixjohn (talk) 00:58, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Bias and unreferenced claim reverted again

The changes made are not a neutral summary of the Provisional Irish Republican Army or Provisional Irish Republican Army campaign articles, are unreferenced, and on the critical point is contradicted by as reliable reference. IRA, The Bombs and the Bullets: A History of Deadly Ingenuity by A.R. Oppenheimer (ISBN 978-0716528951) states: Template:Tq FDW777 (talk) 09:55, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

New IRA

I've recently created a article draft for the New IRA. Feel free to contribute to it. Charles Essie (talk) 19:40, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Chart removed

While it starts off ok, post 2000 things get very messy very quickly. At present it details the following, which isn't even comprehensive but I'm just dealing with the main problems

• Provisional IRA - organisations that split from it are Real, Continuity and another group calling themselves simply the IRA (called Template:Tq in this article
• Real - split into Óglaigh na hÉireann, New and rump Real faction
• Provisional IRA dissidents (2011–present) - didn't split into anything
• RAAD - came from nowhere, merged into New
• INLA - split into IPLO

However, the reality is much more complex and is covered at Provisional Irish Republican Army#Splinter groups (which is properly referenced)

• Óglaigh na hÉireann (which split from Real) also included ex-Provos and ex-INLA
• Provisional IRA dissidents (2011–present) - joined with RAAD and Real to form New
• RAAD - included ex-Provos

I don't even know what variables I'd need to change to incorporate all those, and I think these details would be better off detailed in text alone. The number of lines involved going in different directions would be a nightmare anyway (although if someone can prove me wrong, please do so). FDW777 (talk) 17:36, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps the timeline template (often seen for band members) would work here? I'll see if I can come up with something (will first publish here, not on the article). SQB (talk) 07:14, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Something like this? I've only included a few organisations and events, and I respect that the start and end dates may be disputed; it's just to see if it would work.SQB (talk) 09:36, 24 October 2022 (UTC) <timeline>

ImageSize = width:1000 height:auto barincrement:20 PlotArea = left:200 bottom:100 top:05 right:10 Alignbars = justify DateFormat = dd/mm/yyyy Period = from:01/01/1900 till:23/12/2025 TimeAxis = orientation:horizontal format:yyyy Legend = orientation:vertical position:bottom columns:4 ScaleMajor = increment:5 start:1900 ScaleMinor = increment:1 start:1901

Colors =

 id:war      value:claret    legend:War_or_time_of_unrest
 id:ira      value:kelleygreen
 id:attack   value:black     legend:Battle_or_Attack
 id:treaty   value:gray(0.7) legend:Treaty_or_Ceasefire
 id:bars     value:gray(0.92)

BackgroundColors = bars:bars

LineData =

layer:back color:treaty
 at:06/12/1921 # Anglo-Irish Treaty
 at:10/04/1998 # Good Friday Agreement

layer:back color:attack
 at:24/04/1916 # Easter Rising
 at:15/08/1998 # Omagh bombing

BarData =

 bar:IWoI        text:Irish War of Independence
 bar:Troubles    text:The Troubles
 bar:Volunteers  text:Irish Volunteers
 bar:OldIRA      text:Irish Republican Army (1919–1922)
 bar:IRA         text:Irish Republican Army (1922–1969)
 bar:PIRA        text:Provisional Irish Republican Army

PlotData=

 width:11 textcolor:black align:left anchor:from shift:(11,-4)

 color:war
 bar:IWoI        from:21/01/1919  till:11/07/1921
 bar:Troubles    from:05/10/1968  till:22/08/1998  

 color:ira
 bar:Volunteers  from:01/01/1913  till:01/08/1920
 bar:OldIRA      from:01/10/1919  till:31/01/1922
 bar:IRA         from:23/03/1922  till:28/12/1969
 bar:PIRA        from:28/12/1969  till:28/07/2005

</timeline>

Fianna Neutrality: Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael

Fianna Fáil are described as the second-largest party in Ireland and Fine Gael the third-largest in the Republic. As Finna Fáil doesn't organise in the North, this makes the text unbalanced and not neutral. I would propose "largest party in the Republic" for Fianna Fáil to restore parity. I'm also going to dispute the neutrality of the article until this matter is resolved. Regards, Billsmith60 (talk) 14:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

2020 election in the South: FF 38 seats, SF 37, FG 35. Billsmith60 (talk) 15:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)