Talk:Gregg Easterbrook

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I don't understand this sentence:

he first spells out a number of statistical figures that show today's Americans are better off then any past generation, yet they still confess they are happier than before or even some less happy RickK | Talk 02:53, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

This article is currently disorganized, largely because of my additions. If I don't get around to cleaning it up, someone else might want to, possibly splitting it into sections. Thanks, Dave 07:20, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)

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Considering how much Easterbrook has written and that he is a generally respected commentator, I don't think it's appropriate for the vast majority of this article to be taken up by the "Kill Bill controversy." 67.68.213.125 19:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

It's pretty much ancient history at this point. Since it did lead to his canning by ESPN, it deserves a mention -- but it probably could be reduced in size significantly. Powers 20:26, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I concur with you both. I have edited the section down some. Please review my edits to see if you feel they still do the topic justice. Jacob1207 01:52, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

It's fine. Powers ^T 19:58, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

About those cognomen

Here are a list of cognomen that i've seen in TMQ that aren't here:

Arizona (CAUTION: MIGHT KNOCK YOU OUT OF PLAYOFFS) Cardinals (2003)
Chicago Daxiongmao (the Mandarin word for Pandas) (2003)
Cincinnati Bungles (2002)
Cincinnati Fudgsicles (2003)
Cincinnati Garfields (2003)
Cincinnati Candy Corns (2003)
Cleveland Browns (Release 2.1) (200?)
Cleveland Oranges (Release 2.1) (200?)
Cleveland Browns (Beta Version) (2004)
Denver Parentheses (2003)
Indianapolis Horsies (200?)
Indianapolis offense : the Abandoned Quarry Offense (2004)
Jacksonville Inkspots (2003)
Jacksonville Cyanotic Cats (2005)
Jacksonville Rampant Azure (playoffs 2005)
Kansas City Flintstones (2005)
Miami Ventral Fins (2004)
New Orleans Boy Scouts
Potomac Nanticokes (Wsh - 2004)
San Diego Lightning Bolts
San Francisco Squared 4.949s (2004)
Seattle Dropped Passes Group (playoff 2005)
Seattle Folgers (playoff 2005)
Beijing Gang of Eleven (2004) name for the first NFL expansion team for China

The question those raise is do we want a history of those cognomen or only the current ones ?

Also, should we include the nicknames he used for coaches/players & stadia?
Examples:

Bill "Master Qui-Jon" Parcells
Bill "Obi-Wan" Belichick
Can't Demolish It Too Soon Field (Eagles stadium)
Chainsaw Dan (Dan Snider - 2006) Coach Cratchit (Mike Sherman - playoff 2005) Dan "Lord Voldemort" Snyder
Disposable Razor Field (NE stadium)
Empty Stadium (Arizona Cardinals stadium)
Formerly Named for a Mob Firm Coliseum (Tennessee Titans stadium)
Jean Chretien, prime minister of Canada (Official Name: America's Suburb)
Jon "I Was Teenaged Coach" Gruden
Ketchup Field (Heinz Field - Steelers stadium)
Mora the Younger (Jim Mora - playoff 2005) Next One Will Have Five Blades Field (NE stadium 2004)
Next One Will Vibrate Field (NE stadium 2004 #2)
Not Bankrupt Yet Coliseum (Oakland Raiders stadium)
Owner/Menace to Western Civilization Dan Snyder (2000)
Oranges Stadium (Cleveland stadium)
Please Don't Buy From Invesco Field (Denver Broncos stadium)
Professor Dumbledore (Joe Gibbs - 2004)
Steve "Dobby the Elf" Spurrier

Daclown 16:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC) Template:Cob

Quotes and Philosophies

I'm not in agreement with the inclusion of these, or any, quotations here. Certainly if there were a pithy or profound quotation for which Mr. Easterbrook were particularly well known, or which particularly summed up Mr. Easterbrook's philosophies, I'd say "great." However, the quotes I removed do not seem to add to the article.

Now, it might well be appropriate to add a section about Mr. Easterbrook's general philosophies, such as his practical liberalism, his support and defense of religious faith, and/or his football themes such as the cowardliness of frequent punting and the egomania of the typical coach. Someday I may even write these when I get the time. But each of these requires a paragraph, preferably with citations, rather than a mere single quotation. Moishe Rosenbaum 00:58, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Spygate Criticism

I edited his Spygate criticism from "his over the top response" to "his response" I think it's more NPOV. Also, it should be noted that his fellow Page 2 editor is a Pats Fan. That should be noted as well.

Opps, nevermind, that little detail was already added. 03:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)~

Splitting Tuesday Morning Quarterback

I propose that the TMQ material be spun off into its own article, Tuesday Morning Quarterback (which currently redirects to the applicable section of the present article). With so much of the article devoted to TMQ, it makes that column seem more important than it is, given Easterbrook's other achievement and contributions. Besides, TMQ is not equivalent with Easterbrook, as both section and article have grown, it's now, I think, justifiable to split them. Any objections? Jacob1207 (talk) 21:55, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I Agree, I think the TMQ section would be better as a standalone article

~G 01:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

External links

I recently cleaned out a bit of links from the External links section of the article. These may be used to source the content that is in the article, but as Wikipedia isn't a depository for external links I have relocated them here. Anyone is welcome to use them to source the article.

• "Beam Me Out Of This Death Trap, Scotty" Washington Monthly, April 1980
• "Are We Alone?", The Atlantic Monthly, August 1988
• "Forgotten Benefactor of Humanity" The Atlantic Monthly, January 1997
• "The Nation: Home Security; The Smart Way to Be Scared". New York Times. Feb. 16, 2003.
• "Long Shot" The Atlantic Monthly, May 2003
• "Debunking Doomsday" Wired, July 2003
• "Who Needs Harvard?" The Atlantic Monthly, October 2004
• "The Real Truth About Money" Time magazine, January 17, 2005
• "There Goes the Neighborhood" New York Times Book Review, January 30, 2005
• "The End of War?" New Republic, May 30, 2005
• "Finally Feeling the Heat" New York Times, May 24, 2006
• "Case Closed: The Global Warming Debate Is Over" Brookings Institution paper, May 2006
• "TV Really Might Cause Autism" Slate, October 16, 2006
• "Moon Baseless: NASA can't explain why we need a lunar colony". Slate. Dec. 8, 2006.
• "The Sky is Falling" The Atlantic Monthly, June 2008
• ESPN.com search for Gregg Easterbrook
• ESPN.com search for TMQ
• Deadspin - Gregg Easterbrook Ready To Haunt Page 2 Again.
• Case Closed: The Debate about Global Warming is Over
• Blogosmear - Gregg Easterbrook and the perils of writing before you think A Slate article By Jack Shafer
• Easterbrook's archive at tnr.com
• Easterbrook's apology on the controversy
• Easterbrook's Beliefnet.com columns
• Counterpoint: Gregg Easterbrook Reponds. Time Magazine. Sunday, Oct. 22, 2006.
• Podcast featuring Easterbrook Easterbrook discusses The Progress Paradox on EconTalk
• "Science and God: A Warming Trend?". Science, Vol. 277. August 15, 1997.
• "The New Convergence". Wired. Issue 10.12. December 2002.

ThemFromSpace 03:48, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I added back the articles written by Easterbrook in a new section the article on him. As a writer, Easterbrook's body of work is certainly important for this article; it's equivalent to a bibliography or filmography. Jacob1207 (talk) 16:15, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I removed a few more. --Malerooster (talk) 18:43, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Space Program Criticism

This article presents a very one-sided view of EasterBrook's space program reporting. His 1980 article was general and didn't really predict anything - the claim that it made him a notable commentator on the space program is subjective at best - and his subsequent reporting (particularly on the Shuttle and its two crashes) has been biased and riddled with factual errors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.50.85.72 (talk) 06:12, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

If you have sources to back up the above, please post them. See WP:V for details on what Wikipedia requires. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:21, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

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Why are his brothers not mentioned in the family section?

The Wikipedia entry for Frank Easterbrook mentions two brothers, including Gregg. Gregg's entry does not mention brothers. ChicagoCurmudgeon (talk) 14:51, 25 August 2022 (UTC)