Talk:Great Purge

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Crimes against humanity category removal

Crimes against humanity is a specific legal concept. In order to be included in the category, the event (s) must have been prosecuted as a crime against humanity, or at a bare minimum be described as such by most reliable sources. Most of the articles that were formerly in this category did not mention crimes against humanity at all, and the inclusion of the category was purely original research. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

WP:NPOV issues with "Stalin's role" section

The section, contra WP:DUE, presents a biased account containing largely only the views of a specific camp of historians. While those historians certainly exist and do have those views, the section incorrectly presents their views as consensus or as fact in Wikivoice. The section should be revised to (1) point out that there is a lively and ongoing scholarly debate as to the extent and character of Stalin's involvement and (2) summarize the views of all sides in this debate. Notable voices excluded from this discussion include the views of J. Arch Getty, Sheila Fitzpatrick, R. W. Davies, Stephen G. Wheatcroft, Jerry F. Hough, Lynne Viola, Moshe Lewin, Bob Allen, and undoubtedly others. Brusquedandelion (talk) 03:47, 26 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, the article in general seems to need a serious overhaul with more recent and quality sourcing, like the new Harris book that seems to have been well received. (t · c) buidhe 03:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Not in source

I was reading through the article and noticed the following claim "The officials were mandated to arrest and execute a specific number of so-called "counter-revolutionaries", compiled by administration using various statistics but also telephone books with names sounding non-Russian" [76], I looked through the source that the claim comes from, Stéphane Courtois Black Book of Communism, without a page number and could find no mention of this method of choice with the closest being the NKVD looking through Ukrainian schoolbooks to identify possible members of the OUN during the Second World War (229). If a source could be found for this claim it would prove deliberate ethnic cleansing through the campaign however I was unable to find it in this source. Drgerke (talk) 07:55, 23 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Official but controversial?

The article states that "On 30 October 2017, President Vladimir Putin opened the Wall of Sorrow, an official but controversial recognition of the crimes of the Soviet regime." Why was this monument considered "controversial" by the editor? The source does not support this opinion. 177.26.92.203 (talk) 23:17, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

The purge as a psyop

On page 384 of my copy of A Man Called Intrepid by William Stevenson, the author wrote:

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Few knew about Heydrich when the BSC went to work on him. The final analysis said this about him: [...] Heydrich manufactured the evidence against the Soviet Russian generals that resulted in the great Stalinist purge of military forces.

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There is a section in the article on Heydrich article about this psyop. I'm not sure if this article is about the same purge, but if so, Heydrich should probably be mentioned in this article too.

Keith (Hypergeek14)Talk 23:23, 15 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Yes the same purge but [[Reinhard_Heydrich#Red_Army_purges|"the importance of Heydrich's part is a matter of conjecture"], so I dont think deserves mentioning in this wide-scope article.. --Altenmann >talk 05:00, 16 May 2025 (UTC)Reply