Talk:Florida State University

GA Reassessment

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References

Small error?

Somewhere a "2025 ranking" (I never comment on these so i dont know how to embed the exact line, but ctrl-f will find it) is mentioned, but its 2024. I don't know if using the year like this is good, and it tripped me up while reading. 68.234.232.27 (talk) 06:19, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

The title of the report says 2025, but it was released in 2024, so I adjusted the wording. Thanks for bringing that to our attention. Donald Albury 12:53, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

The reference (https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/2025-college-free-speech-rankings) remains accurate as it is the 2025 rating, regardless if it was released in 2024. But the adjustment is fine. Sirberus (talk) 13:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

FSU and the Seminole Tribe of Florida

I undid an edit by Sandcherry as I reflected on it and researched the subject on what entity governs the Tribe. It is the constitutional Tribal Council which runs the multi-billion dollar industry built by the Seminole Tribe of Florida. The Tribal Council also mainly speaks for the Seminole Tribe of Florida as recognized by other media and their evident power. To trivialize this governing body because you don't like their relationship with FSU is not a topic for this article. Further, the NCAA granted FSU and few others a waiver, their reservations notwithstanding, and I think it is silly to re-litigate a decided NCAA matter on a university webpage, again to make the point you don't like the Seminole Tribe's close relationship with FSU. I suggest you take the NCAA's presumed reservations and commit an entire article to their so-called reservations, elsewhere, as FSU still got the waiver over a decade ago. Frankly, in truth, the tribe could easily say "no" and enforce it against FSU eternally, the Tribe is that wealthy. Sirberus (talk) 00:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

The use of native American imagery by FSU was obtained by permission from the Florida Seminole Tribal Council. The NCAA accepted the use even though the NCAA "continues to believe the stereotyping of Native Americans is wrong." If either of these statements are incorrect, please provide a source. Also, your presumption that I "don't like the Seminole Tribe's close relationship with FSU" is unfounded and not correct. Sandcherry (talk) 17:05, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes; that's my presumption. Time will tell if the presumption is wrong. I am fine with being proven wrong. Are you OK with restating the sentence to say the Tribal Council represents the Seminole Tribe of Florida? I don't mind your reference about racist images being included. Sirberus (talk) 23:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

The Seminole Tribe of Florida, Tribal Council speaks for the Seminole Tribe of Florida per their constitution. So we will amend the FSU article to clarify this point.

Here's the reference: https://nniconstitutions.arizona.edu/sites/default/files/2021-11/Seminole%20Tribe.pdf

"SECTION l. The governing body of the Seminole Tribe of Florida shall be known as the Tribal

Council and shall consist of eight (8) members elected by secret ballot as provided in Article

IV, Section 8."

Sirberus (talk) 23:50, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 22 December 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved per WP:SNOW, considered in the context of the 100+ RMs proposed at once by this user. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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Florida State University → Florida StateFlorida State – WP:COMMONNAME. Theparties (talk) 14:06, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. The full name provides a WP:TITLECON consistent naming convention across all articles on universities and colleges in the United States. Many reliable sources like Forbes and US News and World Report still use the full name. The OP has also made numerous individual RMs on this same issue like this one, which may violate WP:ACROTITLE or use a shorter common name that is rarely used outside a sports/athletic context. Better to stick to the status quo. Zzyzx11 (talk) 14:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose as unnecessary, unwise, and confusing for readers. ElKevbo (talk) 14:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, per the comments of Zzyzx11. —Eyer (he/him) If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message. 16:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:TITLEFORMAT#Avoid ambiguous abbreviations, WP:ACROTITLE, and what Zzyzx11 said. I see no reason why we need to make the title more ambiguous, since the proposed title is literally also the name of a state. – Epicgenius (talk) 15:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.