Talk:First Intifada

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Requested move 13 May 2021

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The result of the move request was: Not moved Template:Nac (t · c) buidhe 06:55, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

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First Intifada → Template:No redirect – Rename per WP:CONCISE there have been multiple events named Intifada in the Arab World over the past century. Specifically, the first events named Intifada were the 1952 Egyptian revolution and parallel Iraqi Intifada (1952). Later those were followed by Bahraini March Intifada in 1960s, the Sahrawi Zemla Intifada in 1970s, LEbanese February 6 Intifada in early 1980s (all being essentially "First Intifada"s) and only later in 1987 was the first Palestinian Intifada. Some sources which utilize the term "First Intifada" deal specifically with the Israeli-Palestinian event in retrospective and hence drop "Palestinian" from the term, while during the event itself it was rather branded "the Palestinian Intifada", the the "87 Intifada" - same as sources dealing with World War I referred to it as "the World War". It is certainly not the "First Intifada", but rather only in the Palestinian context. GreyShark (dibra) 09:23, 13 May 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 02:47, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

• Comment - note that the Second Palestinian Intifada article is now at Al-Aqsa Intifada renamed to this title in 2019, now proposed for another title discussion.GreyShark (dibra) 09:29, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

  It isn't now. – wbm1058 (talk) 14:57, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

• Support It is true there have been others, so First is not very precise. It's an aka anyway.Selfstudier (talk) 09:59, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose - The full term "First Palestinian Intifada" is not very common. I don't believe the extra disambiguation is necessary: the first couple of pages of a Google Scholar search for "first intifada" all refer to the Palestinian intifada and not any other. Rublov (talk) 12:18, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. I concur with Rublov. This seems like a case for disambiguation, but only as a hatnote on this article. — Goszei (talk) 17:45, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONCISE. Rreagan007 (talk) 03:24, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Template:No redirect redirects to Second Intifada. – wbm1058 (talk) 14:57, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose by far the primary topic for this, I'm unaware of a single other thing called the first intifada except for the first time by a user on this talk page. That somebody thinks some other event is essentially a "First Intifada", what matters is that sources nearly uniformly refer to the First Intifada as the First Intifada. nableezy - 15:12, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 December 2022

Template:Edit extended-protected Please change "The impact on the Israeli services sector, including the important Israeli tourist industry, was notably negative." to "While filled with suffering and terror, the First Intifada became beneficial to the Palestinians. It solidified a clear and focused national consciousness for Palestine and the peoples need for statehood. The First Intifada brought a negative light to Israel on the world stage as many witnessed the horrors the Israeli Forces were capable of in trying to maintain their political legitimacy. The conflict also cost Israel hundreds of millions of dollars in lost tourism and imports."

Stitch2016 (talk) 04:15, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: This language seems to violate WP:NPOV. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:25, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Casus belli

In the introduction it is written "an Israeli Defense Forces' (IDF) truck collided with a civilian car, killing four Palestinian workers", but I don't see any reference that says that the truck was indeed one of the IDF. If it was an IDF's truck indeed, a reference saying so is, in my opinion, much needed. Otherwise, it would be good to edit this part out. Thank you Nausicaasbel (talk) 14:03, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Changed to Israeli truck driver per sources. Selfstudier (talk) 11:27, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Result

Wouldn’t the proper result be a “Palestinian political victory?”

it says uprising suppressed, and I cannot access the source to confirm it, but given that this was not a military confrontation like the second intifada which was suppressed by two major operations but instead a series of protests, shouldn’t this be the more fitting result? The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 04:49, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

my suggestion would be to remove the "result" from the infobox entirely since it isnt adding anything. I dont think any RS would describe the "result" of the first intifada simply as "uprising suppressed". DMH223344 (talk) 06:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

That would work too, the first intifada wasn’t the full scale war like the second one and from what I’m reading it ended with a peace settlement (Madrid conference) rather than being quashed by military force The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 13:31, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Who calls the second intifada a war? DMH223344 (talk) 16:10, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

The second intifada was more “militaristic” and was suppressed by 2 operations (homat magen and operation rainbow), the like of which didn’t happen in the first one. I was only bringing it up as a reference The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 16:12, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Also I dont think we can argue that madrid was the result of the first intifada. RS do tend to describe it as an outcome, but not *the* result.

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morris: Template:Tq DMH223344 (talk) 16:20, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Do you see removing the result as the best decision here? What about Oslo I and Madrid, better to move it to the territorial changes? The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) 03:39, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 January 2025

Template:Edit extended-protected The first intifada was a civilian uprising that was characterized in violent protests 213.137.71.24 (talk) 05:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Template:Not done Please be more specific on which change you want to do to the article. For example, "in the sentence that says 'blah bla', replace it for a sentence saying 'this and that'." Cambalachero (talk) 16:12, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Edit request 9 June 2025

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Diff: Template:TextDiff 2A00:A041:E050:C300:17C4:68BE:F266:E7D4 (talk) 18:46, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

i think you should cheek the difference Between what is listed on the English page and the Hebrew page, according to the Hebrew page, the first intifada was a violent uprising by the majority of Palestinian residents in Judea and Samaria and the Gaza Strip against the State of Israel. in the English one it was was a sustained series of non-violent protests, acts of civil disobedience and riots carried out by Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories and Israel.

do you UNDERSTAND the misleading????

File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 19:39, 9 June 2025 (UTC)