Talk:Fan fiction

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What's The Difference Between Fanon And Canon?

Can someone please explain to me what the difference between fanon fanfiction and canon fanfiction is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.118.92.186 (talk) 18:45, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Fanfiction should be prioritized over fan fiction

As someone who is a part of fanfiction culture, I can tell you it’s rarely - if ever - spelled with a space. When someone does spell it with a space, that come across as someone unfamiliar to the scene. I’d edit it, but I’m sure the edits would get rolled back by someone. Durinae (talk) 22:39, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Pre-television fan fiction?

Is 'fan fiction' the appropriate page (and if so, is 'fan fiction' the appropriate term) for works of fiction (including published works) appropriating from other fiction (without authorisation); and produced before the advent of television such as the extensive unauthorised works of Sherlock Holmes?--Darrelljon (talk) 12:44, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

I would say yes, since they follow the same principle. Lolak2 (talk) 16:16, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Definitions

I think there should be definitions added, I would be willing to do so. I don’t know exactly how to write nor the preferred format on this site to do so. Most likely though I would suggest a chart explaining Abbreviations, direct meaning and actual meaning. The reason I opt for this is due to the fact I often get confused myself and would like to extend this knowledge publicly. 2600:1700:AF90:5550:49AE:A90B:C326:B0B2 (talk) 02:50, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

The subject is clearly defined and its common abbreviations are given. What, precisely, do you think the article lacks?—Anita5192 (talk) 03:03, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Notable Fanfictions

I've recently come upon the article for the fanficton "All the young dudes". I don't think any singular fanfiction is significant enough to warrant their own article. But notable fanfictions could get an honorable mention here. (I would consider notable fanfiction as ones that have broken records, are especially popular or have changed the genre in some way.) Lolak2 (talk) 16:15, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

What other ones would you include? First that comes to my mind is obviously "My Immortal", which (deservedly, I think) already has its own page, and surprisingly isn't mentioned in this one; then "Heat Waves" and "Sexy Times With Wangxian", and maybe a handful of more notorious ones. I'm not sure there are enough to warrant a whole section, given that fics tend to stay in fandom circles. GulfOfPerdition (talk) 03:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

I disagree with adding a list of "notable" fics; this page is about the concept of fan fiction and imo shouldn't mention any title, unless a fic single-handedly changed the genre, which from my understanding never happened since it was more of a fandom effort, particularly from the Star Trek one.

If a specific fan fiction was covered by a significant number of third-parties reliable sources or, even better, was the subject of academic studies to the point of justifying a separate article about it, that could be added to the "See also" section. As for the rest of them, as GulfOfPerdition noted, they tend to stay in fandom circles (and, I'll add, most authors prefer it that way), and their present popularity doesn't guarantee long-term significance. Chiya^ko92 09:01, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

I struck my suggestion to add articles about fan fiction to the "See also" section because there's already a category for them with over 30 works, too many to be added under "See also". --Chiya^ko92 09:15, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Introduction missing citations

Lots of uncited statements in the introduction. Are there any sources for the definition and description of fanfiction? - Marvelousbench (talk) 13:32, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Problematic definition

The article currently says "The author uses copyrighted characters, settings, or other intellectual properties from the original creator(s) as a basis for their writing and can retain the original characters and settings, add their own, or both." The requirement that someone must legally own the derived work is curious; surely, we can discuss "Oz fanfic" even though the material by the original author has been in the public domain for a while with no intellectual property remaining. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 20:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Contradictory definition

The article defines fanfiction as "based on an existing work of fiction" then provides examples of what fanfiction can be based on, which includes "fictional and non-fictional media, including... musical groups". Seems a bit odd. How can it be based on existing work of fiction if there are plenty of examples of fanfiction written about real people? Meatiestdog (talk) 09:58, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Adapting Stories in Film and Media

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Requested move 23 May 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Adumbrativus (talk) 08:11, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

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Fan fiction → FanfictionFanfiction – WP:COMMONNAME, per Google search results (34.8 million vs. 21.1 million), Google Trends data (overwhelmingly in favor of "fanfiction," https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%201-d&q=Fanfiction,Fan%20fiction), Google Books data (again in favor of "fanfiction," https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Fan+fiction%2CFanfiction&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3), and use by the two largest archives (on the front pages of the Archive of Our Own and FanFiction.Net).

Seungri400 (talk) 07:45, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per this n-gram example which covers lowercasing (nom examples are uppercased). "Fan fiction" also seems more descriptive of the genre for the general audience. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:38, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
• Leaning oppose, per Randy Kryn. BD2412 T 01:24, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. Fan fiction are real words in real dictionaries. Fanfiction is in none of my dictionaries. Wiktionary defines fanfiction as an alternative spelling of fan fiction.—Anita5192 (talk) 01:42, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

  Interestingly enough, "fanfic" appears in several dictionaries (Dictionary.com, OED, MW, AHD) but not "fanfiction." In most cases, "fanfic" is simply defined an informal term for fan fiction. ―Howard • 🌽³³ 20:59, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per the aboves. Additionally, fanfic and fan fiction, not fanfiction -- 65.93.183.249 (talk) 03:23, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

• Reluctant oppose As someone who would only ever spell it fanfiction myself, I was very surprised to see that the style guide for the journal Transformative Works and Culture specifies both “fan fiction” and “fan fic” with spaces. I think fan communities are farther along in the linguistic shift for this term (which may be analogous to the transition from e-mail to email) but TWC is probably the RS Wikipedia should follow.

~ L 🌸 (talk) 08:33, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

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