Talk:Euphonium
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Conical v cylindrical bore
This page says that "The difference is that the bore size of the baritone horn is typically smaller than that of the euphonium, and the baritone has a primarily cylindrical bore, whereas the euphonium has a predominantly conical bore." In contrast, both the baritone and trombone pages claim that the baritone has a conical bore. Other sites such as https://musicalinstrumentpro.com/euphonium-vs-baritone say it has a cylindrical bore. Can this inconsistency be fixed? 96.231.239.208 (talk) 22:21, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed, as it's also supported by the citation. Good catch! Matuko (talk) 18:04, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- The older text here is more accurate than the new edit; while there are variations on the euphonium/baritone that blur the line, generally, the baritone has a more cylindrical bore - although not fully cylindrical like a trombone, while the euphonium has a more cylindrical bore. The difference can be likened a bit to a cornet (baritone) vs flugelhorn (euphonium), in that while both are cylindrical, one is significantly more cylindrical than the other. See here (https://www.dwerden.com/eu-articles-bareuph.cfm) for a good start, in particular the paragraph just above the table. Euphguy1 (talk) 06:10, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- I think you meant conical, not cylindrical, in the above paragraph, as if things weren't confusing enough. I think we can rely on Bevan's thorough treatment in The Tuba Family here; the valved bugle family is huge, covers several countries of origin (France, Germany, Italy, Britain), and the 9-foot B♭ category was particularly fecund. I've tried to cut a path here, but I think the Name section is already too long and has morphed into a potted history that ought to be re-summarised and/or merged with the History section. — Jon (talk) 00:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)