Talk:Effects of climate change

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First sentence (narrow discussion)

I realize there has already been related discussion, but the opening sentence in this quite high-level article continues to make me cringe:

Current: Template:Brown

Critique:

• "Template:Brown" (esp. when used in a lead) raises the question of promotional editorial bias, and suggests defensiveness.
• The phrase "Template:Brown" is incongruous (unmatched concepts).
• "Template:Brown" just ends up being puzzling.

I propose re-structuring:

Proposal A: Earth's natural environment and human societies are experiencing the effects of climate change.

It's neutral, concise, unambiguous, and non-clumsy. (It doesn't bother me that, like the Climate change article, the lead doesn't start out with the title of the article.) Let's keep discussion concise and narrowly focused. —RCraig09 (talk) 18:29, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

I'd be open to revisiting this first sentence. Your Proposal A could work although its reading ease score is lower and it's using passive voice. It could be changed to active voice as follows: Proposal B: Template:Tq. or Proposal C: Template:Tq. It means we would no longer have the article's title in the lead sentence but that's OK.

I think I like the current version a little bit more, because it's "stronger" (you say it might be "editorial"). I think we could theoretically add a ref to "prove" that it's indeed "well documented". But I can also understand your point of view and concern. And I agree that "growing" is a bit odd here.

Here's another proposed alternative: Proposal D: Template:Tq (this one has a better reading ease score) EMsmile (talk) 19:53, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Humans, not machines, should interpret "readability" in context. A is not in passive voice. It's best to retain literal title (a point against B and C though they're basically OK as statements). D is wordy for humans even if a machine prefers it. Definitely against adding a cite to Template:Brown since, as the only cite in the entire paragraph, it would add to the perception of editorial bias and defensiveness. —RCraig09 (talk) 20:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

True, proposal A is not passive voice, I got that wrong. But the most important part of the sentence is at the very back which makes it awkward in my ears. I don't feel very strongly about the different options though, so am looking forward to reading how this discussion develops.

The readability score (from the readability script) is useful because it's objective, not subjective, but it's only one factor of many. Let's always keep our target audience in mind (which includes lay persons, people without a university degree and non-native speakers). Those tools are certainly not perfect and can only be a very rough guide, if at all. EMsmile (talk) 21:23, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Geological

Write about causes, effects and solutions of Climate change Also add the impact of Wildfire on the ecosystem. 2409:40E4:49:C05B:C5BE:3DCE:847B:7424 (talk) 06:26, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

See Causes of climate change, Effects of climate change, Climate change mitigation and Climate change adaptation. —RCraig09 (talk) 17:33, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2025

Template:Edit semi-protected Change the following:

"Impacts include changes in regional rainfall patterns. Another is earlier leafing of trees and plants over many regions. Movements of species to higher latitudes and altitudes,[132] changes in bird migrations, and shifting of the oceans' plankton and fish from cold- to warm-adapted communities are other impacts.[133]"

Into the following:

"Impacts include changes in regional rainfall patterns, earlier leafing of trees and plants over many regions, movements of species to higher latitudes and altitudes[132], changes in bird migrations, and shifting of the oceans' plankton and fish from cold- to warm-adapted communities[133]."

or do something similar to make the section less repetitive. PyroDev (talk) 21:23, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

File:Yes check.svg Done GoldRomean (talk) 02:04, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

Suggestion: Add 2025 citations to environmental impact section

Hi all, I was reviewing the *Environmental Impact* section of the article and noticed that several of the references are from 2019–2021. Since multiple landmark climate studies have been released in 2025, I believe the section could benefit from newer, peer-reviewed data.

Would anyone be open to updating the citations or pointing to the most recent IPCC or Nature reports? I’d be happy to help source them. Thanks! – Okon2victor (talk) 13:41, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Reply There is no section labeled "environmental impact", so we can't be sure what you are referring to. If a more recent source has newer information that is not recited in this article, you can make the change to the text and add a full citation to the end of that sentence (see Template:Citation). Since you're new, it's best to edit incrementally so you can see how other editors might revise your submission (editing an encyclopedia is a learning process). —RCraig09 (talk) 16:33, 19 June 2025 (UTC)