Talk:Edward Elgar

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Tim riley You recently reverted a referenced addition to Edward Elgar (a street named after him). The summary stated: "rem (misspelled) trivia". Im not sure what rem means, I assume misspelled refers to "Honor vs Honour". As for trivia, the entry followed the line: "There are around 65 roads in the UK named after Elgar...". How is the name of another road/street in a different country trivia and not a proper inclusion to Honours, awards and commemorations? If this revert was done in error please correct it. Thanks,Palisades1 (talk) 23:07, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Why do you believe this specific street merits being called out? Nikkimaria (talk) 05:07, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
See the above argument against the removal of the street name in the US and the explanation for the revert: "trivia". Isn't it all trivia? Like the sentence following the one about roads in the UK: "Elgar had three locomotives named in his honour". Palisades1 (talk) 21:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm not following what you're arguing here - are you against the removal of the US street names, or are you proposing removing more content? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:47, 12 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
For my own part, I take Palisade1's point about the other roads, and the railway engines. If I had my way I'd get rid of the lot as trivial, but other editors have taken a different view, and I think the roads and engines have to stay, though I hope there won't be any more. Tim riley talk 12:08, 12 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Infobox

I am planning on adding an infobox to this article. When I wanted to edit it, there was a request to notify the talk page before attempting such a change. So can I go ahead with my edit? 202.142.67.175 (talk) 07:46, 31 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

In a word, no. You'll find a lengthy discussion about this matter in the archive. Jmc (talk) 09:00, 31 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Concurring with Jmc. Tim riley talk 18:43, 31 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Bias Regarding Infoboxes

There is a clear bias I've noticed of late regarding infoboxes for articles about composers. While creating infoboxes for articles on notable British composers like Arthur Sullivan, Edward Elgar, etc. and German composers like Richard Wagner is discouraged, infoboxes exist on the articles of notable American composers like Aaron Copeland and Igor Stravinsky. Why is this so? This seems like anti-European and pro-American bias.

Edit:I felt like this needed a separate topic and does not fit in any of the earlier topics, so I made one 202.142.67.175 (talk) 22:08, 31 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

@202.142.67.175 Your allegation of bias in infoboxes for articles about composers is more appropriately raised at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical music (where you'll find lengthy (and heated!) discussion of the topic). Jmc (talk) 01:40, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
I believe strongly that an infoboxo should be added. There is no reason that it shouldn't especially when many people look at it first. It can simply show where and when they were born, when they died, and a list of works. Thats it. Nothing trivial most the time, that literally goes against what an infobox is made for Wcamp9 (talk) 02:36, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Jmc is right. A proposal to change Wikipedia's policy on i-boxes does not belong here. You would do better to raise it in the appropriate forum. Your request for a list of works shows why i-boxes are inappropriate for composers: which works, chosen by whom on what encylopaedic principles? Tim riley talk 10:05, 18 October 2024 (UTC)Reply