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Template:Edit semi-protected Can i please edit the page because i can see somethings wrong here TOHO Animations (talk) 10:29, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Page protection would be totally pointless if we allowed anyone to edit the page who said they wanted to. You need to say exactly what change you think should be made and explain why, so that a confirmed editor can decide whether to make the change you suggest or not. JBW (talk) 10:40, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

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Demographic change

So there was a change in the demographic field in the infobox, in which "Children" was replaced with "Shōnen". Is there any proof of this? LucianoTheWindowsFan (talk) 21:00, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Template:Ping The change was made with this edit on 20 November 2021 by an IP editor who made four edits that day. There was no explanation for the change. The article generally describes the character as relating to children, but the feature films as shōnen. I'd be comfortable with changing it back to "Children". SchreiberBike | ⌨  21:47, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

I also support changing it back. Demographics for manga are determined by the magazine the series was published in. The page for CoroCoro Comic states "Its main target is elementary school-aged boys, younger than the readers of shōnen manga". Link20XX (talk) 22:26, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Can you add this in culturer impact and legacy?

Source: https://m.timesofindia.com/city/lucknow/lucknow-building-collapse-how-doraemons-quake-tips-helped-6-year-old-stay-safe-earthquake-in-nepal/articleshow/97324278.cms Vijay6767 (talk) 08:24, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Multiple errors and inconsistencies

There are multiple errors and inconsistencies within the page. The table I added today is to correct the error. Please don't leave the mistakes and let me fix them. Or fix it. Bananado (talk) 08:22, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

The fact that the article has lots of original research content (that should be deleted as well) doesn't mean that you can add whatever you want under the excuse that you're "fixing errors". Or you add sources to back up the content that you're adding or you simply don't do nothing at all. We must edit based upon the sources that we have, not simply under what is considered the "truth". Xexerss (talk) 08:32, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Originally, even if incorrect information is stated without a source, it is left unattended. So why is the correct bibliographic information from the correct source removed? I have also included the source. Bananado (talk) 08:48, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

It needs something way more specific than "the colophon of the published book and the number of publications". Xexerss (talk) 08:53, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

The date of issue is written on the colophon. The number of published stories is actually counted. Bananado (talk) 08:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Why it is so important to include the table and the magazine's chart anyway? I, personally, don't see what kind of useful information contribute to the article that cannot be simply written in prose (if needed). Xexerss (talk) 09:15, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

The graph solves the misunderstanding of the serialization period at a glance. The table instantly clears up the misconception that all episodes are included in Tentomushi Comics. It is true that those erroneous descriptions actually existed. and still exist. Bananado (talk) 09:27, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Be sure to cite the source. I will correct the error, so could you please guide me to "write the source properly" without undoing it? Bananado (talk) 09:42, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

The English version of wikipedia has been translated into various languages, and the current situation where false rumors are spreading is troublesome. Bananado (talk) 09:46, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

But the article explicitly states that "the stories have been SELECTIVELY collected into forty-five tankōbon volumes", it was never stated that ALL the chapters were collected in the volumes released under the Tentomushi Comics imprint. The number of volumes listed in the infobox (45) is simply because the Tentomushi Comics edition was the first one released. Regarding the magazine's chart, I still see it as problematic, given that it was published in various magazines, it would be very cumbersome to back up the publication periods shown in the chart and justify its use. I think that simply listing the magazines where it was published is enough. If you want to include other editions that are not currently included in the article, you could cite the the first and last volumes of said edition, like the other ones included in the second paragraph of the 'Manga' section. I don't think this info warrants a table though, but details about the other editions, volumes and their respective chapters, are worth to be included in the List of Doraemon chapters article. Given that you said that you own all the books, it would be more appropriate to start there. Xexerss (talk) 10:18, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

The erroneous description was there until recently. They are also translated into multiple languages. Also, there are still some errors. Charts can clear up those misunderstandings in an instant. Bananado (talk) 11:05, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

The charts in the series are based on data that has already been extensively validated. over 15 years. The data has been published in multiple books, including official ones. If you can't trust that, I don't think you can trust anything. Bananado (talk) 11:06, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

As mentioned above, the tankobon table helps clear up misunderstandings at a glance.

In the infobox, only the information about the whole work is described, and by posting "Complete Works", "Plus", "Color Works", etc. in the table, it is possible to prevent misunderstandings that are spreading widely. "Plus" is misunderstood as a sequel elsewhere. "Plus" is just a book title, not a work title. Like a "color works". Bananado (talk) 11:06, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

I will fix the mistakes on the page with source. If there is an error in my edit, could you please point it out? Even if you add a useful figure with a reference, it will be deleted altogether, so I don't think the error will be fixed forever. Bananado (talk) 11:18, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

I will remind you again of Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth. The issue is not whether the content that you're adding is correct or not, the issue is the lack of sources to corroborate said content, and justify these additions just claiming that you own the volumes or that you've got the information from official sources, without stating which ones are those, is not how this site works Xexerss (talk) 11:27, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Ok, then let me know where did you specifically find this chart or name some of these official books where the data can be verified. Sorry, but just saying "the data is available out there" is not enough. Xexerss (talk) 11:21, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

"Fの森の歩き方"(Shogakukan) https://mediaarts-db.bunka.go.jp/id/M355510

"Perfect data of the Doraemon"(NeoUtopia) https://mediaarts-db.bunka.go.jp/id/M188902

Hundreds of people have scrutinized and revised the error since the 1990s. Bananado (talk) 11:40, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Hundreds people of research organizations, not just one individual, scrutinize the data, and Shogakukan admits it. Bananado (talk) 11:46, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, this is more helpful. By any chance, do you own these books as well? If that's the case, I wouldn't oppose to include the magazine's chart with references using Template:Cite book. It would be helpful too to include the specific pages where the info is available. Xexerss (talk) 12:13, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

yes. I own over 1000 books. I will scrutinize the materials carefully. I always base my writing on sources. Please let me correct any mistakes posted without source. Bananado (talk) 01:15, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

I just want to correct the wrong publication year, etc., and the verifiability is also guaranteed, so why can't I fix it? There are still unsourced errors. Bananado (talk) 08:57, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Musical shows

Well, I thought in my initial edit (which is now your edit currently) Special:Diff/1185990770 with Furigana Ruby text seemed OK to me, until I found プラネット sound like <<Planet>> and not ?<<Wakusei>>? 惑星.

And I search again and saw [舞台版ドラえもん「のび太とアニマル惑星（プラネット）」 - Nelke Planning - ネルケプランニング],

so I gone from my Furigana Ruby text Special:Diff/1185990770 → to before Ziyaad boi edit Special:Diff/924348015.

I ask if both are alternate Template:Tq as I don't know about Japanese... --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 11:04, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

mmm...レールガン <Railgun> different from 超電磁砲....I see... --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 11:09, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

In this case the showrunners want 惑星 to be read as "planet" (or more accurately, puranetto) instead of its usual reading "wakusei". 惑星 is not normally read as "planet", just like 超電磁砲 isn't normally read as "railgun" if you strictly use its Japanese readings, but is in A Certain Scientific Railgun. _dk (talk) 12:44, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

The conclusion section

Considering my edit was reverted for not having sources, I'll attempt to justify them with them now.

For one, the Japanese article for Doraemon's final chapter/episode does mention all three of them in the article as seen here: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ドラえもんの最終回, there are also Chinese and Vietnamese articles about the same thing.

As for sources, there are a few articles discussing the "final" chapter such as: https://news.infoseek.co.jp/article/magmix_131669/ and https://middle-edge.jp/articles/1BGUG?page=2 Noob282 (talk) 13:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

See WP:CIRCULAR (there are no citations for the section in the Japanese article either), and Middle Edge largely relies on user-submitted content; see WP:USERG. Xexerss (talk) 13:25, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

"Spawn"

In the second paragraph of the article, the word "spawn" is present. I've read this article multiple times before without noticing anything of it and I think it serves a good purpose for me, but I just realized that the word "spawn" is a video game term, and if used otherwise, it seems to be derogatory. Just wanted to point this out. BrightSunMan (talk) 14:09, 15 June 2024 (UTC)