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Di nitrogen tetroxide IS listed on the IUPAC site YOU list !

good inorganic IUPAC link: http://www.cofc.edu/~deavorj/101/nomenclature.html



Appearance... Is it really brown? I seem to remember an experiment where 2 NO2 <->N2O4 via a change in pressure or temperature; and the glass vessel being a brown shade when in the NO2 form and clear when in the N2O4 form. It is this constant equilibrium between the two gases that make N2O4 appear brown, when really its the NO2 that is brown. see link http://chem-courses.ucsd.edu/Uglabs/Lecture/Demos//04.html Piyrwq 16:41, 15 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

I added a note there. R6144 14:54, 26 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

When frozen, N2O4 is a white solid (if pure)but as soon as it begins to melt(-11C) the drak brown NO2 molecule impart a progressive coloration to the liquid and when allowed to stand at room temperature the liquid is almost extremely dark brown (almost black). Those expericence wuth NTO learn to be able to tell the approximate temperture of the cooled liquid just by its colour.

Please verify the data for NO2 and N2O4

The data for NO2 and N2O4 are not very consistent in literature, probably because they always exist together in equilibrium. Verification of the data is recommended before use. R6144 14:54, 26 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Isn't it impossible to have accurate data on the individual bp/mp of no2/n2o4 since they are in eqm. anyway?

Molar mass

I'm almost cerain that molar mass of this compuond is not equal to 7.7 carbon atoms. --Krgeqewrjsif (talk) 09:57, 20 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

The molecular weight of N2O4 is 92.011. I just checked it in ChemDraw.
Ben (talk) 16:13, 20 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Equilibrium Push

Disclaimer: I am *so* not a professional chemist, but from the article:

"Higher temperatures push the equilibrium towards nitrogen dioxide."

That doesn't seem right... why would higher pressures tilt the equilibrium toward twice as many molecules? In most cases that I am familiar with, increasing pressure on a gas favors the smaller number of molecules.

Riventree (talk) 03:13, 6 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

ΔG=ΔHTΔS

For the equilibrium:

N2O4 Template:Eqm 2 NO2

ΔG can be calculated at any temperature, and it has been done [1] using known values for ΔH and ΔS. Where ΔG is negative, the reaction is spontaneous, whereas if ΔG is positive, the reaction is not. That's the quick answer. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 03:41, 6 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Har... well since my disclaimer was true, the above makes almost no sense to me, but appears sufficiently authoritative that I withdraw the question and leave it to the expert. Thank you, Rifleman 82.

Riventree (talk) 04:04, 6 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

You can take a look at Gibbs free energy. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 04:46, 6 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

hazard diamond

In the graphic, the yellow part of the diamond displays a zero, indicating 'un-reactive', despite that fact in the table above, the chemical is mentioned as reacting with water. Plus, since it IS a rocket fuel, one would expect it to be reactive.Mr Morden76 (talk) 21:33, 29 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Safety issues

Nitrogen tetroxide is a very aggressive oxidant, and as such requires great handling precautions. I have read (but cannot confirm) that nitrogen tetroxide spilt on the skin will immediately and violently react with and oxidise subcutaneous fat, so violently that it can spontaneously burst into flame. 2001:8003:E40F:9601:645D:C915:B2CA:4B75 (talk) 23:13, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

If N2O4 is planar, how about C2O42−?

The naive thought would be that the single N-N bond in N2O4 or the single C-C bond in C2O42− (oxalate ion) could both rotate. While the latter is true (the C-C bond in C2O42− can indeed rotate; see here), the N-N bond cannot rotate. I was wondering why. 2A04:CEC0:116F:1D5B:BCBB:17FB:3FBB:B50A (talk) 20:54, 14 June 2025 (UTC)Reply