Talk:Demographics of Israel

Birth numbers for August 2021 are out

16.600 births overall, looks like Covid triggered a massive baby boom in Israel, nearly 10 percent increase in total number of births compared with the same month in the previous year, here August 2020.

Also, the increase is much large within the jewish community than among other religious groups.

https://www.cbs.gov.il/he/publications/doclib/2021/yarhon1021/c1.pdf

62.226.83.222 (talk) 00:16, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Where's the updated figures for 2023? They get updated every Rosh HaShanah (new year). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:6E00:2440:6336:399B:DA39:F8A5:6168 (talk) 06:29, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Average population

In the vital statistics table, the end-year populations have been included an not the average population. I will correct that when I have time, 2018-2020 numbers are correct. https://www.cbs.gov.il/en/Statistics/Pages/Generators/Time-Series-DataBank.aspx Givibidou (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:53, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Australian to Israel Immigration rate doesn't match

The "Net migration rate" section has 143 Australians for 2019 (January to October), but the table "migration/Aliyah" shows zero. Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 08:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Is the Density Section mislabeled?

The Density section refers to demographic deployment, but there is a chart marked Density which uses different numbers. The term Deployment does not seem to appear in demographic or geographic glossaries except as a description of military movements 08:59, 25 April 2022 (UTC) Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 08:59, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Historical population

the percentage data are incorrect, I don't know how to fix it 212.235.98.140 (talk) 08:46, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

What you need to do is bring a source for us to look at. Zero^talk 08:58, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 November 2022

Template:Edit extended-protected Could someone please remove the redundant map and/or picture of road signs in this section. It makes WP:SANDWICH with the text and messes up the following section on religion. Before A455bcd9's changes, the section on languages didn't have that map, which is already repeated in other articles when appropriate, it's not representative of the general (non-Arabic speaking) Israeli population and there is a better map in a different section with the distribution of the Arab population in the country anyway.--Noha Erssam (talk) 16:22, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Done! Tweedle (talk) 21:55, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 November 2022

I have a fresh-made ethno-cultural map of Israel. Can I or you on my behalf input it into the article body AFTER the line

File:Demographic map of Palestine - Israel - with Legend.png

Ethnic map of Israel and Palestine, with the Golan Heights

(the two map have slightly different conceptual approach to the Israel ethnicity representation.)?

File:Israel- geographical distribution of the main ethno-cultural communities.jpg

Yours. Sergei Kondrashov Sergey Kondrashov (talk) 07:33, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

@Sergey Kondrashov: could you please add links to the sources used? Also you wrote "Classification, I used for building this map does not follow any Israeli classification": wouldn't this be WP:OR? How did you define the threshold for a city to be "mixed"? (there's always at least 1 minority in each city). Lastly: I'm color blind and the map is impossible to read... A455bcd9 (talk) 07:48, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

“שכבת אזורים סטטיסטיים 2008 – אוכלוסייה, מין, דת וגיל” (https://www.cbs.gov.il/he/publications/DocLib/2022/%D7%A7%D7%98%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%92/1.%20%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%91%D7%99%D7%9D%20%D7%95%D7%97%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%AA%20%D7%92%D7%90%D7%95%D7%92%D7%A8%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%95%D7%AA/Stat2008_Pop_Sex_Age_Relig.zip), “שכבת יישובים 2008 – אוכלוסייה, מין, דת וגיל” (https://www.cbs.gov.il/he/publications/DocLib/2022/%D7%A7%D7%98%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%92/1.%20%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A9%D7%95%D7%91%D7%99%D7%9D%20%D7%95%D7%97%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%AA%20%D7%92%D7%90%D7%95%D7%92%D7%A8%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%95%D7%AA/Setl2008_Pop_Sex_Age_Relig.zip ), “איחודים של אזורים סטטיסטיים, 2019” (https://www.cbs.gov.il%2Fhe%2Fpublications%2Fdoclib%2F2017%2Fpopulation_madaf%2Fpopulation_madaf_2019_8.xls&usg=AOvVaw0tkv59uJHD8BliRG17XyLl ), “Summarized file of localities - census 2008” (https://www.cbs.gov.il%2Fen%2Fsubjects%2FDocuments%2Fmesukam1_e.xls&usg=AOvVaw27CapUGKlVZKe8LF7OwlIB ). Census geography is mostly represented by Statistical Areas (digital maps included in Israel CBS datasets).

The threshold for classifying the population of a statistical district as "mixed" on my map is when the second largest population group is at least half the size of the first one. Say, 60% and 35%. Sergey Kondrashov (talk) 08:16, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks @Sergey Kondrashov: please add the sources in File:Israel- geographical distribution of the main ethno-cultural communities.jpg. Regarding your definition of "mixed", it looks like WP:OR to me: CBS doesn't use this definition. As far as I remember, the usual definition in Israeli stats use a threshold of 2% of Arab population? A455bcd9 (talk) 08:33, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, it's 10% according to Mixed cities. A455bcd9 (talk) 08:46, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

I think a better map is Population Distribution by Population Group and Religion 2018, p. 4: Sourced, free, not original research, high quality, detailed, colorblind-friendly. A455bcd9 (talk) 08:58, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

All sources are included into graphics - inside the frame in lower right part of the map. Sergey Kondrashov (talk) 09:13, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

File:Israel- geographical distribution of the main ethno-cultural communities.jpg

Geographical distribution of the main ethno-cultural communities of the population of Israel.

Sergey Kondrashov (talk) 23:30, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the Template:Tlx template. Colonestarrice (talk) 14:24, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

References

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 November 2022

Template:Edit extended-protected I want to update the Vital statistics section and correct the 2021 number of births. the information is from "Israel Central Bureau of Statistics. GuyUpdating (talk) 15:58, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

the page shows inaccurate data and youre blocking the option to edit it.

if you are not doing your job, let other people do it.

no one is even replying to the edit requests.

cant belive i actually donated to the site..silly me. GuyUpdating (talk) 14:44, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Hey there, GuyUpdating! Wikipedia is run by volunteers, so apologies if your request wasn't tended to as quick as you'd have liked! Can you please write the specific changes you'd like to have made to the article in a "change X to Y" format, and provide a link to a reliable source? TGHL ↗ 🍁 20:38, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Argentina in the wrong section.

In the recent ancestral background of Israeli Jews table, Argentina is in the asian section. Argentina should be in the Americas. Gabrielelquequieresaber (talk) 21:22, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Opening Statement Mistake

Population described as only 9.73 inhabitants instead of presumably 9.73 million inhabitants? ChoShudh (talk) 18:27, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Fixed that.Pechmerle (talk) 09:22, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 August 2023

Template:Edit extended-protected Update density and population in infobox:

change population from 9,506,000 to 9,756,300

change density from 431 to 442 Orking888 (talk) 13:30, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Recoil16 (talk) 09:19, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

status aparte

Would anyone be able to add more on the term/status "status aparte" to clear up some inconsistencies? It appears once in the article, in "The Circassians in Israel enjoy, like Druzes, a status aparte". The term is however not used in the Druze subsection, although it is in the Demographics of Israel template along with a mention of it applying to Arameans, and Circassians are not given a mention in the template. A quick search online was sadly unproductive. CMD (talk) 08:52, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 November 2023

Template:Edit extended-protected Request to add African immigration to Israel under Demographics of Israel#See also. 223.25.74.34 (talk) 13:15, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: no reason given for the proposed change. M.Bitton (talk) 19:07, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 May 2024

Template:Edit extended-protected The sentence: December 2023, this calculation stands at approximately 9,842,000 million, of whom:

should be: December 2023, this calculation stands at approximately 9,842,000 of whom: 2001:56A:7BE4:7A00:9566:26B9:27C4:EF01 (talk) 01:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

File:Yes check.svg Done Charliehdb (talk) 09:40, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

DEMOGRAPHICS AS OF 2024

Please update to include the latest statistics. There are now 9.9 million Israelis including 7.427 million Jews and 2.089 million Arabs. See here. 185.182.71.28 (talk) 21:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 May 2024

Template:Edit extended-protected Correct two addition errors on the table DEMOGRAPHICS OF ISRAELI AND PALESTINIAN TERRITORIES

1. TOTAL AREA OF THE REGION OF PALESTINE OUTSIDE THE GREEN LINE should be the sum of the two preceding rows: 5880 + 365 = 6245

2. TOTAL ISRAEL + PALESTINE COMBINED AREA should be TOTAL WEST BANK + GAZA STRIP + GREEN LINE + GOLAN HEIGHTS which is 5880 + 365 + 20582 + 1154 = 27981 104.230.112.3 (talk) 13:16, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Please turn off your caps lock, then we may reconsider. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 03:12, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Israeli citizens in Gaza

To note, there are Israeli citizens residing in Gaza. See for example this article in Haaretz. The number is low, but not "0" as indicated in this page. -- Soman (talk) 23:51, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 May 2024

Template:Edit extended-protected Jewish is NOT an ethnicity. To be Jewish is a religion. Please change the ethnicity of “Jewish” to an actual geographical country. 2001:56A:79AD:CD00:682F:9E2D:EA6:F65E (talk) 00:18, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

File:X mark.svg Not done: While I would agree to change the article if it asserted that Jews were another race (which is obviously false), ethnicity does not equal race. Ethnicity is "Template:Tq." Jews are an ethno-religious group. Again, I want to stress that this just means they are a distinct group, and this has nothing to do with genetic background.  – Sincerely, Professor Penguino (talk) 03:20, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Jews see themselves as a nation, not a religion, with a common history and ancestry. That's how they see themselves, which is what is relevant here. A Jew converting to another religion is still considered a Jew as well as atheist Jews. 2A02:ED0:4230:E400:6851:764E:DFF5:19D3 (talk) 17:29, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

A question to the translation

...and including Druze, Circassians, all other Muslims, Christian Arabs, Armenians (which Israel considers "Arab")

In hebrew version of this topic all Armenians, Circassians are included in "others" percentage and not in Muslim/Arab percentge. here is a quote: וכ-5.7% (כ-534 אלף), מוגדרים "אחרים" מהם 300,000 יהודים על פי חוק השבות הרשומים במשרד הפנים כחסרי סיווג דת והשאר הם נוצרים לא-ערבים – כולל בני משפחות של יהודים שלא התגיירו, ארמנים, כמרים ונזירים מלאומים שונים, כמו כן קהילה מוסלמית של צ'רקסים, קהילת העבריים השחורים, פליטים וייטנאמים לשעבר, ובני דתות ולאומים אחרים. So, there might be a translation mistake, perhaps? 2003:E3:B714:7C00:6527:F24A:A421:7564 (talk) 14:47, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

2023

Why is the population figure in the infobox for 2023 not lining up with the figure in the detailed table right next to it for the same year? Criticalthinker (talk) 22:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 November 2024

Template:Edit extended-protected The population of Israel is 10 million as of 2024 Liad talker (talk) 12:29, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source for this information? - Adolphus79 (talk) 16:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

File:X mark.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 16:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 December 2024

Template:Edit extended-protected 73.2% (about 7,208,000 people) are Jews, including about 503,000 living outside the self-defined borders of the State of Israel in the West Bank

The Israeli population in west bank is in the demographics of Israel. this should not be the case as these people do not live in Israel. 2A06:5904:340C:5400:1C3F:99EF:7ED1:A574 (talk) 00:15, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

The indication was made already in the article, I don't see any need for removing this part Ilovefood123123 (talk) 08:08, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 February 2025

Template:Edit extended-protected Please correct two errors.

1. Infobox

| major_ethnic = [[Israeli Jews|Jews]] (7,208,000, 73.6%)<ref name="cbs-2023-12-28"/>

Change 73.6% to 73.2%

2. Population Demographics table

! rowspan="3" scope="col" style="max-width:55px;" | Palestinian non-Israeli-<br />citizens

Change 3 to 2

Philosopher Spock (talk) 22:51, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Template:Not done for now -- a source is needed for the first part, and it would be helpful if you'd explain what the 2nd part does Mrfoogles (talk) 04:27, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

The source is already there: ref 1; you could also do the math. The 2nd part fixes a formatting error in the Green Line row. Philosopher Spock (talk) 08:49, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Template:Partly done: Done part 1 for source to text intergrity reasons. Haven't done the second part because I don't know what it does and it doesn't seem to do anything anyways.

1. REDIRECT Template:Reply to

Template:Redirect category shell please can you explain what does it do exactly? Replicative Cloverleaf (talk) 22:00, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Currently, the "Palestinian non-Israeli-citizens" column header spills over into the first row of the table, forcing all the data to its right into the wrong column. It's intended to fix that. Philosopher Spock (talk) 17:24, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

File:Yes check.svg Done Second request done. Table is fixed as described. Lova Falk (talk) 09:38, 4 March 2025 (UTC)