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Giallo

"In Italy people commonly call a story about detectives or crimes giallo (English: yellow), because books of crime fiction have usually had a yellow cover since the 1930s." I removed this from the lead section as it seemed very out of place there, but was not sure where exactly in the article this sentence would fit better. Some feedback would be appreciated, thank you!. WNYY98 (talk) 02:32, 20 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Crime novel vs crime fiction

Crime novel redirects here, but it is a separate articles on many wikis: compare https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q208505 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5937792 Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

Is police film different from detective film?

Neither has en wiki article yet, they just redirect to mystery film for now. Several wikis have dedicatedd article to those topcis: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2101714 vs https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25533274 Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:44, 6 January 2025 (UTC)Reply

I think there is potential to have standalone articles for both. "Mystery" is a weird redirect, I feel like "crime" would be the better one for now. As for comparing the two, detectives can be police or private, so I think there is space for a distinct detective-film article. Wikipedia as a whole is not great with film-genre articles, unfortunately. It involves more book research than individual films. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 13:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)Reply
The more I read into genre studies, the more convoluted terms like "Mystery film" or "Crime film" or "Detective film" or "Police film" become. Even in what one would think would be more discussed general genres (i.e: Thriller film), there is rarely agreed upon definitions of genre, and with that, less history, critical evaluation, etc. And when there is such a thing, its usually focused on the genre in terms that is very anglo-centric, usually referring to only American (more specifically Hollywood) or occasionally British overviews of genre. I've recently tried to flesh out these articles, but even with that, I feel like anyone reading it, would come away disappointed in the vagueness that are such commonly used terms. Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:28, 15 January 2025 (UTC)Reply