Talk:Christian Cage

Old name of finisher

OK, so I know that sources dating from '98-'01 aren't the easiest to come by (especially on the Net), but it'd be appreciated if anyone could try and help out by providing something concrete from that era which lists his finisher as the Impaler. During the same time in the Brood stable, Gangrel used the implant DDT which was sometimes either listed or called out as the "Impaler DDT". Either way, numerous games of the time also had Christian's finisher listed as the Impaler, so I don't know if they could count as credible sources? Obviously the most accurate source would be video footage with the commentators calling it that, but that is also difficult to obtain. From memory, however, I do believe he adopted the name of the Unprettier at around the time he and Edge turned heel in early 2000. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:22, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Factual error in this article.

I live in Ontario, Canada and have worked for the School Board in the Orangeville area. In Ontario the term 'Secondary School' refers to a High School, not a college. Jason Reso and Adam Copeland couldn't possibly have been College roommates while attending Orangeville Secondary School because it is a High School. In the article about Adam Copeland, it says that Adam attended Humber College. Could they have been roommates there? Please check it out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ortonfan70 (talk • contribs) 02:34, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

His return at the 2010 Slammy Awards

Why did someone delete the fact that he returned during the Slammy Awards of 2010? It even says that on the Slammy Award wiki page. I mean, he still isn't in action, but shouldn't that be worth mentioning? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slammy_Award#2010_Slammy_Awards 108.41.159.141 (talk) 19:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

It is not notable to his overall career. This is a bio about his life and career. Him appearing on a special episode of a fake award show does not effect any future or present event he is connected too.--WillC 21:03, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Championship lost

He lost the championship to Randy Orton

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Christian (Heel Turn)

On the June 3rd, 2011 edition of Smackdown, Christian turned heel by hitting Randy Orton with the World Heavyweight Championship after being the special guest referee in Orton(c) vs. Sheamus for the WHC, which Orton won by pinfall. He the walked off with Orton's title.

Source: http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/2011-06-03/25019806 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Herpgenerator (talk • contribs) 01:26, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Hard to say for now. It could be a one off thing like the time that Shawn Micheals Superkicked Hulk Hogan after they tagged together, challenged him to a match at the next PPV and then resumed his existing character after losing the match. It may be best to see if this builds up or not. The question is will this last a few weeks like that incident or be something more long lasting ?--76.69.169.220 (talk) 03:50, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Just because he blasted Orton with the title belt on Friday doesn't mean he's now a full-blown heel. It's like his way of sending a "message" to Orton. If he continues to do more heelish stuff in the weeks to come, then surely, he'd be a definite bad guy. Although granted, I do think he is on his way to being the next Edge.92.235.168.144 (talk) 17:05, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Exactly, this could range from a single message to Orton to secure a match to a complete change in his character that could last months or even years. It would be best to wait until this develops more. Also if this is a full heal turn he will also eventually feud with other faces and that would be a clear indication of the heal turn.--76.69.169.220 (talk) 01:28, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't think we should jump into conclusions so soon. Lets at least wait until SmackDown Friday to see what type of actions or promo Christian decides to take part in. At least allow him to explain his actions in a heel or face way and then change the article accordingly. Thanks KingRatedRIV (talk) 14:51, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Header problems

I think we should remember not to change headers to the point of them not even describing the majority of what is in the section. I split the headers for this reason. This is a good example of what not to do: long headers are indeed bad, but putting significance of a recent feud with Orton over that of del rio and winning the championship is rather silly. DB (talk) 18:00, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Christian's theme song.

Hey guys. I found out Christian once used another theme song that isn't listed. He used it against Gangrel, and once against Viscera on Sunday Night Heat. Heres a link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKgw4DmQcXU

The song is Called "Project Gothic." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colin2k4 (talk • contribs) 00:42, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

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WWE Template

Some tube took Christian off the WWE template. Why?PeterMan844 (talk) 18:43, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

My guess is they did that because he's retired and not an active wrestler anymore. You would have to ask them though.LM2000 (talk) 19:17, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Retired?

Should we add his retirement in the inbox or something?, because it looks like he no longer wrestles anymore. FrozenFan2 (talk) 15:48, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 27 July 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 16:43, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

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Christian (wrestler) → Christian CageChristian Cage – this extended form of his name used in his career is WP:NATDAB and it makes sense to use it instead of (wrestler) which is longer and unneccessary. Rewind Wrestling (talk) 23:35, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Just to note, the name of this editor is not "Rewind Wrestling", but "ClassicOnAStick". BMK (talk) 10:58, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Support per WP:NATURAL. Prefall 19:17, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Support --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:20, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Support LM2000 (talk) 21:02, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

• Support - Despite common use of the mononymous name, WP:COMMONNAMES discourages using ambiguous names, especially when parenthetical disambiguation is used. Even when surname might not be "fairly often used" (WP:NCP), let's use natural disambiguation instead for clarity. --George Ho (talk) 05:31, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

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Christian Cage rename

This came as a complete surprise to me, but I support the decision. It is consistent enough to fit the bill for this page. Dave Bautista's first name wasn't officially announced when he came to the ring. Naomi Knight hasn't gone by that character surname in years. And actually, I remember the section on Christian's Coalition from TNA—they were referred to as the Christian Coalition about as often as Christian's Coalition, but the "Christian's" name was used for disambiguation purposes. It works. Kudos. 73.204.231.72 (talk) 03:11, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't support the change one bit. His common name was Christian, and the last time I checked, that's how things were done. It's really pissing me off turning a corner and finding yet another double standard. Rusted AutoParts 23:32, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Christian is shorthand for Christian Cage. It is still Christian. Common name would be Christian Cage anyway since he is known as Christian and Christian Cage and fans know him under both names.--WillC 00:35, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

But we'd still go by common name. He was called Christian Cage in TNA because WWE referred to him as "Christian", not "Christian Cage". He's gone more years as "Christian", thus making it his WP:COMMONNAME. Rusted AutoParts 10:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Reso wrested as Christian Cage before he signed with WWF. In WWF, he was called Christian. In TNA he was called Christian Cage and he recieved exposure under that name (obviously, he recieved more exposure in WWF, but TNA was also a big company). Christian is the shorted version of Christian Cage, other name he was known under. Also, it's a natural disambiguation--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:59, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes, Reso has been known as Cage and just as Christian. He has wrestled longer under Christian, but Christian is still just a shorthand of Christian Cage. WWE could trademark the name that way. However, Cage wrestled at least 6 years as Cage, with 3 of those years being one of the top talents of a world-wide promotion as their World Champion twice along with the most or close to most screen time. His name grew as Cage. He even appeared back in TNA in 2012 as Cage. Meanwhile, the majority of his WWE run he has been mid-card with a brief moment at the top of the B show, regulated to upper mid-card at times. His expose under TNA can be argued as greater which is where Common name is tricky. However, even you look at the discussion above, under common name it is discouraged to move pages to names with disambiguation. Thus making Christian (wrestler) a bad decision by your own argument.--WillC 06:22, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Reso is more commonly known as Christian. He wrestled in TNA for three years under the Christian Cage name, I'll agree with that. But citing the return in 2012, which was for about three minutes, by the way, while he was signed to WWE as part of a talent trade, seems a bit irrelevant. Also, Christian won the World Heavyweight Championship. Twice. That seems a bit higher than mid-card to me. Look at his accomplishments in WWE compared to TNA. There's no argument where he was more successful. I would suggest we go back to Christian (wrestler). Zorbo678 (talk) 17:30, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Retirement

While not stated in the most direct terms, the September 7th post-Raw Stone Cold Steve Austin podcast with Edge and Christian seemed to confirm that Christian's in-ring career is over. Should the article be updated to reflect that Christian is retired based on the uncorrected assumed premises of questions regarding "going back to being a civilian," or does it make more sense to wait for a direct statement on his career status to be officially reported somewhere? ErdrickLoto (talk) 06:00, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I saw somewhere Christian said he isn't retired. I think it's a retirement a la WWE, like Finlay or Goldust. That means, McMahon says they are old and considers them retired. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 01:42, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Greatest wrestlers ever

He is one. That's common knowledge. We should note that 71.200.16.180 (talk) 21:53, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are listed below:

• There is a lot of uncited prose in the article, including entire paragraphs.
• The career section stops at 2021. Is there any post-2021 additional information to add, or did he retire and that should be noted?
• The article is quite large at almost 10,000 words. This might signify that the article has too much detail. Is there any prose that can be cut?

Is anyone interested in fixing up this article, or should this be sent to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 03:41, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

About that. Point 2, I don't understand. The Impact Wrestling section includes 2021, but the AEW section goes from 2021 to present. 3, It's one big problem with pro wrestling articles. Since users include weekly events and don't summarize, we have huge articles full of IN-UNIVERSE storylines. Maybe you should go to the wikiproject talk page, but many other articles lost the GA status and no-one cared --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 09:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

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