Talk:Celine Dion

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Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2024

174.175.72.203 (talk) 09:13, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Change On 26 June 2024, Dion sang to On 26 July 2024, Dion sang

File:Yes check.svg Done Thanks. Popcornfud (talk) 10:31, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Celine s ancestry

This article often refers to her as French. She is not. She is quebecois. Big difference. MarcG123 (talk) 19:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Can you point out where, in specific, the article refers to her as French in the context of nationality? Are you sure it's not referring to the language?Template:PbNote that Celine's ancestry is French - both of her parents were of French descent: [1] (not that it matters) RachelTensions (talk) 19:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Sales

After adding up the sales figures reported on the Wiki page for all of Celine Dion's Albums she has sold over 185 Million albums during her career, although since some figures are underreported or uncertified it would probably be closer to 190 million. Even if we only include the single sales of My Heart Will Go On, her sales would at the very least meet or exceed 200 million records not accounting the rest of her discography or single units. Shouldn't we be using the claimed sales figure of 250 million records for her? She has more of a argument for selling that many records than The Rolling Stones or Led Zeppelin whose albums never sold that much

Billboard / UPI / Forbes / BBC Never17 (talk) 22:03, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

Requested move 18 March 2025

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Celine Dion → Template:No redirect – That's her name. Just because sources can't be bothered to use "é" doesn't make it right. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 14:45, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

Support. All other biographies of people with non-standard characters in their names use those characters. Marbe166 (talk) 15:18, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. This is the English Wikipedia; we don't use French characters in English names. Georgia guy (talk) 15:26, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

  It is a French name. Marbe166 (talk) 16:15, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

  Well, this is factually untrue. RachelTensions (talk) 16:27, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose Template:Tq Céline herself very specifically doesn't use the "é" in English. You can head over to her official website and see for yourself, then click over to the French version of the same website and watch the "é" magically appear. None of her English works are credited to "Céline" and she does not refer to herself as "Céline" in English.Template:PbWP:COMMONNAME, the gold standard of article titling guidelines, looks for the most common usage in English-language reliable sources, and unless someone can present evidence that the "é" is used in a preponderance of English-language sources despite Céline herself not using "é" in English, then this isn't gonna fly. RachelTensions (talk) 16:34, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Google NGram Viewer shows that Celine Dion is far more common than Céline Dion in the published English corpus. --Coolcaesar (talk) 16:54, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose. See WP:SPNC: "For minor spelling variations (... diacritics ... etc.): when a consistent and unambiguous self-published version exists, it is usually followed". While her socials (Facebook, Insta) use "Céline", her official website, as User:RachelTensions points out, does not. This therefore fails the "consistent" part of the above naming convention. 162 etc. (talk) 18:01, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

  Why isn't "Celine" the minor spelling variation (self-published on her website, but not used consistently in all her official channels) of "Céline"? WP:SPNC is implicitly about variations from birth names, like the example it gives for the part of it you quote (Milena Kitić → Milena Kitic). Ham II (talk) 14:38, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

  Because the WP:COMMONNAME in English-language sources is without the accent.

  A reasonable explanation for her use of “Céline” as her display name on some profiles is because you generally can’t specify a specific display name on a per-language basis. In every reasonable area where she can control its display per-language, she uses “Celine” in English, and “Céline” in French. Example: her official website, her record labels, her album cover art, etc. RachelTensions (talk) 14:51, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose as she herself on her official website (here) does not use it. cookie monster 755 10:24, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

• Support

1. The use, or not, of an accent is influenced by marketing decisions, by availability of diacritics, and yes, the laziness of writers

2. A majority of the entries in Céline use it

3. She is Canadian, not French, and that spelling is acceptable in Canadian English

Humpster (talk) 00:40, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose, as per Rachel. The fact that her website shows the variation indicates that she or her managers excludes the accent for marketing reasons, which independent reliable English sources have reported as well.

(CC) Tbhotch^™ 02:03, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

"Reliable English sources" can't be bothered to use the needed accent in Québec, do you think they're gonna use it in someone's name? LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 04:37, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Well, "Quebec", without the accent, is the WP:COMMONNAME in English and is, in fact, how our article is titled because of that fact. This resulted in a broad consensus reached here and was explained to you here. RachelTensions (talk) 05:05, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

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