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Latest comment: 5 September 2024 by 107.2.4.37 in topic Emphasize that the terms have US origins?
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Emphasize that the terms have US origins?

I think there's not enough emphasis that these terms, rather than appearing simultaneously in the anglophone world, originated in the United States, and are far from being universally understood. 179.0.56.18 (talk) 14:00, 13 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

That's because the terms originated specifically in other countries, as did many Francophone Jazz traditions. Emphasis on the truth of the origin of the term is important, since it's misleading to say the entire term "Stud" originated with the terms use to refer to African-American Lesbians primarily in the 1950s, when African American men were using the term to refer to themselves, and anyone who "supported them" like a "beam" in the 1940s. The Jive-Speak origins of this term in the United States are fairly well evidenced 107.2.4.37 (talk) 17:16, 5 September 2024 (UTC)Reply