Talk:Bias (statistics)
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Requested move 14 May 2025
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 10:35, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
Bias (statistics) → Statistical bias – WP:NATURAL, as avoids seemingly unneeded parenthetical disambiguation. If the term is considered particular and technical enough within the field such that treating it lexically as a subset of the broader concept of bias is inappropriate, then that's fine, I just figure it's worth proposing. Remsense ‥ 论 12:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 14:36, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Statistics, WikiProject Science, and WikiProject Mathematics have been notified of this discussion. Remsense ‥ 论 12:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Support per Remsence’s rationale.
- Rafts of Calm (talk) 15:11, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Fgnievinski, did you have an opinion? I was surmising it's plausible you might oppose given the WP:BOLD fix, but I'm not sure. If you do, I would very much like to know. Remsense ‥ 论 15:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remsense I'm neutral about it, leaning towards opposing. In statistics, one normally calls it just a bias, so the full name would only be used in a broader context of non-statistical biases. Looking at other statistical articles, I have the impression parenthetical disambiguation prevails, e.g., Power (statistics) instead of Statistical power. But I'm open to change opinion if the weight of evidence favors the proposal. fgnievinski (talk) 15:53, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! If others oppose it on these grounds I might close early. Remsense ‥ 论 15:54, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Remsense I'm neutral about it, leaning towards opposing. In statistics, one normally calls it just a bias, so the full name would only be used in a broader context of non-statistical biases. Looking at other statistical articles, I have the impression parenthetical disambiguation prevails, e.g., Power (statistics) instead of Statistical power. But I'm open to change opinion if the weight of evidence favors the proposal. fgnievinski (talk) 15:53, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. As the proposer wrote: "If the term is considered particular and technical enough within the field such that treating it lexically as a subset of the broader concept of bias is inappropriate, then that's fine". This is not a "subset" of a broader concept of bias. The article titled bias says that bias "is a disproportionate weight in favor of or against an idea or thing". This is not an instance of that. Admittedly it is related, but it has a technical definition. On an exam you may be asked to calculate the bias of a particular estimator. Although not well known to non-statisticians, in some cases a biased estimator is demonstrably better than an unbiased estimator. I wrote a paper about one such example, published in the American Mathematical Monthly, a preprint of which can be seen on the arXiv here. Michael Hardy (talk) 02:42, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the insight. I'll withdraw this next time I'm at my desktop. Remsense ‥ 论 16:19, 24 May 2025 (UTC)