Talk:Battle of Vukovar
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infobox HOS Šilić matter
There's been repetitive attempts now (from a Latvian IP address) to restore the name of Robert Šilić in the infobox, related to Croatian Defence Forces. I had removed it as it had been added without a rationale, even if nobody noticed that in quite a while (it happened after the FA review). I see we mentioned this briefly in /Archive 3, but that by itself is not meaningful. It's probably some sort of a political talking point to include or exclude them, which likely shouldn't be relevant for the encyclopedia, instead the inclusion criterion is if and how this matter is described in reliable sources. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 15:40, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- This also reappeared in this May 2024 edit. --Joy (talk) 08:13, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Duplexz090 thank you for your interest in this matter. Please note that this is a featured article and additions to it need to match the standard of the rest of the article. Please find a reliable source and format the citation properly. The links you added before were bare URLs, and the destination seems to be a blog. --Joy (talk) 16:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Note also that the author of both articles in [1] is Tanja Belobrajdić, but a quick lookup brings up this biography where it says this person was literally serving in the same military units as the listed people, so that's a bit of a problem with regard to not being a proper third-party, secondary source. They do mention Template:Tq so maybe we could verify this from something published in Hrvatski vojnik in turn? --Joy (talk) 16:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- I give up😭 But If Robert Silic was solder and not Commander then it was my mistake and i apologize Duplexz090 (talk) 20:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- The article says:
- So satnija is a company, and we see the precise size of the unit. I don't know the precise standard for including people in the infobox, @Peacemaker67?
- The other article mentions Template:Tq which is a platoon, and the ranks of the two commanding officers are Template:Tq which is colonel, a higher rank.
- The other people listed include Zadro who commanded a Template:Tq which is a battalion, but apparently had no rank at the time. The next is Dedaković who commanded a Template:Tq which is a brigade, and his war-time rank was Template:Tq which is lieutenant colonel. I don't know that the order of these two is correct right now. --Joy (talk) 09:29, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Given the scale of this battle, a company or platoon commander is not going to have had a significant impact on the outcome. Even battalion commanders would be a dubious inclusion. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 11:57, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Duplexz090 thank you for your interest in this matter. Please note that this is a featured article and additions to it need to match the standard of the rest of the article. Please find a reliable source and format the citation properly. The links you added before were bare URLs, and the destination seems to be a blog. --Joy (talk) 16:31, 2 January 2025 (UTC)