Talk:Battle of Mycale
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Reference to the Battle of Salamis
The first section makes the point that "it does not seem to have been attributed the same significance (even at the time) as, for example the Athenian victory at the Battle of Marathon or even the Greek defeat at Thermopylae." Good point, but I would suggest adding the crucial Battle of Salamis to these two. The Battle of Salamis was a stunning victory for the Greeks that stopped the unstoppable Persian navy and army in what was sure to be takeover of the entire Greek mainland and Peloponnese. Tony (talk) 21:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Milesians
Who are the Milesians? The link in The battle section suggests that they are somehow connected to Miletus of Greek mythology, but no mention of them is made in the Miletus article. Furthermore, there is a Milesians link, but it refers to the Sons of Mil Espaine (Milesius) from Irish mythology, which appears to be a different group. This inadvertent entanglement of these two Wikipedia uses should be straightened out with either a disambiguation page or a combined article, and this article's reference should point to the appropriate page. -- Jeff Q 07:28, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
- The Miletus article is a little confusing - the ancient city was very real and one of the important cities of Asia Minor, the mythological eponym was unimportant. I'll work over the city article to clarify this. Stan 12:04, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks. Please also include some mention of who the Milesians are, if they are related to Miletus (and if you know, that is). With this information, I can figure out how to fix the corresponding pages and links, like the one in this article. -- Jeff Q 14:44, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
- The Milesians are the inhabitants of Miletus - consonant change is just a little oddity of Greek. Stan 17:46, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
Mishkin can I see the sources you have cited for the Persian forces at 60,000 can you please give me the link and one that shows the Greeks were only 40,000, I am starting to feel you are a Greek bigot.
By the way Goldsmith in the discussion area is not going to cut it, provide it in a link, and a famous historian in the article.
It's not from a link it's from a book, which I'll quote for you:
The Persians apprised of their approach, and having long experienced their own inferiority, would not ventury to oppose them at sea, but drew up their ships upon land at Mycale, a promontory of Ionia, where they fortified themselves with a wall and a deep trench, while they were also protected by an army of sixty thousand foot, under the command of Tigranes.
Oliver Goldsmith - The History of Greece
As you can see, 60,000 is a minimum estimation. I'm starting to feel you're a blinded chauvinist and a vandal. Miskin 10:06, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
okay thanks, was that so hard, asking for more detail for the source I hope doesn't constitute a personal attack. Again, thank you for the source.
Casualty Figures
The casualty figures seem realy dubious, are there any sources availabel for them. I mean 815 vs. 40,000 and whole fleet, seems like the Persians just stood there as they were cut down. I'll place unknown for now, and hope their will be some sources for future changes.--Arsenous Commodore 17:33, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
- It's not dubious at all. When your army routs without an easy escape route because you've been overwhelmed, betrayed by your "allies" and "geography" there's often a complete massacre. Like Battle of Zama, Battle of Cannae and many many others. If anything the current heavy/heavy losses is totally dubious.79.103.136.133 (talk) 15:52, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
- What's your source for 815 casualty figure? Paul August ☎ 19:36, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
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