Talk:Bassoon
Latest comment: 13 May 2025 by Jonathanischoice in topic Etymology
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Wiki Education assignment: Chamber Music Literature
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Wiki Education assignment: Preparatory Composition
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— Assignment last updated by NightmareBeforeChristmasJackandSally (talk) 16:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- I reverted your addition before realizing it was part of an assignment, so I'll explain more about the problems here. First and most importantly, if you wish to add content anywhere on Wikipedia you need to include citations to reliable sources that were used. This is one of the core tenets of Wikipedia and I would have expected that to be explained as part of any Wikipeda assignment. Also, this paragraph that provides a simple summary of various facts about the instrument wouldn't belong in the middle of a section providing quite specific information. The only place it could even potentially belong is as an introduction, but we already have an adequate intro paragraph. My suggestion for moving forward on this would be to review your sources, find a few specific pieces of information that are not already present in the article, look for an appropriate place to insert them, and add them with your references clearly cited. Feel free to ask any further questions here, and good luck. -- Fyrael (talk) 17:42, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose I should ping Template:Ping -- Fyrael (talk) 19:04, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
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Template:Ping what is "the rep"? The article doesn't say anything about the instrument being called "fagotto" in English, so I don't see how any of that content is relevant. -- Fyrael (talk) 21:16, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- A large majority of the corpus of orchestral repertoire up until at least the mid-20th century uses Italian terms for instruments, i.e. fagotto, fagotti, fg. etc. for the bassoon in scores and parts. Any English-speaking bassoonists, musicologists, composers, or indeed Wikipedia article readers interested in the bassoon, would need to know this to avoid confusion. Including something about at least the Italian term fagotto (probably not as long-winded as the current explanation) is therefore warranted. I can have a go myself but I'm in the middle of fixing the terrible euphonium and tuba articles at the present moment. — Jon (talk) 22:27, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- I've had a crack at it anyway; but it is the least of the problems in the article really... the "Technique" section takes up nearly a third of the article and is almost entirely unsourced, and some of it borders on WP:NOTHOW "how to play the bassoon". The Waterhouse Grove article and the Yale Kopp book are both good sources, but although Kopp is cited often, there are no page numbers. There is a lot of flowery language. Most instrument articles have the same problems. Good luck! — Jon (talk) 23:14, 13 May 2025 (UTC)