Talk:Barber's pole

Origin in barbering and surgery

Under the heading "Origin in barbering and surgery," the sentence "(and the twined pole motif is likely related to the Staff of Hermes, aka the Caduceus, evidenced for example by early physician van Helmont's of himself as "Francis Mercurius Van Helmont, A Philosopher by that one in whom are all things, A Wandering Hermite," op. cit., preface[1].)" should be deleted since it's full of logical and gramatical errors and adds nothing useful to the article. The Caduceus is a symbol of Hermes, the messenger of the ancient Greek gods, and protector of human heralds, travellers, thieves, merchants, and orators. It is sometimes confused with the Rod of Asclepius, which is a symbol of medicine. "Hermite" is an archaic spelling of "hermit," which has nothing to do with Hermes. Citizen127 (talk) 08:33, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Attribution

Reference copied from Cigar store indian to Barber's pole. See former article's history for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:17, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Trivial flyfishing mention

Per WP:INDISCRIMINATE, I don't see how a random mention of a fly fishing lure in a random Michican fly fishing newsletter (archive link) is encyclopedic. Template:U disagrees. Others' thoughts? --ZimZalaBim ^talk 19:02, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

I disagree. We will have to see what others think. This has been in this article for over a decade. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:34, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

A version of WP:LONGTIME applies here: just becuase it has been in the article for years doesn't mean it is inherently approrpiate. This is a type of random, indiscriminate online source that doesn't inherently convey notability. Despite WP:NOTPAPER, we simply cannot and should not list every single minor example of something. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 21:29, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

WP:Not paper The article comprehensively informs our readers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 12:31, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Yes, you keep repeating NOTPAPER, but also need to balance with WP:NOTEVERYTHING. Your approach means if I can find an archived PDF of how some random barbershop quartet was featured in a random newsletter in a random town for a random event then it should be included? I fail to see how this instance of a person's fishing lure design is enecylopedic. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 13:30, 12 June 2025 (UTC)