Talk:Art Ross

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For what it's worth, Art Ross was first coach to pull his goalie to add a skater. Trekphiler 06:53, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Ross became a naturalized American citizen, which probably should be reflected under his nationality. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.116.246 (talk) 01:57, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

About "Whitefish Bay"...

It just so happens that I grew up in and around Naughton. It is situated on Whitefish Lake, between what is now the Whitefish First Nation (formerly the Whitefish Indian Reserve) and a another formerly independent municipal entity called Whitefish. One can walk from Naughton to either Whitefish or the First Nation's major townsite in under half and hour. (Both Naughton and Whitefish were amalgamated into the Town of Walden, which was itself later made part of the City of Greater Sudbury.) Somehow I find it more likely that Ross would have learned to skate on Whitefish Lake (which is rather small and shallow and freezes over in early winter) rather than travelling to Lake Superior -- a distance of more than 200 miles, which would have been impractical in midwinter at the beginning of the 20th Century except by train. Did someone just make an assumption because they could find Whitefish Bay on a map?Stan Rogers (talk) 11:00, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

I accessed the book source (Weir et al., 1999) on Google Books:

Arthur Howie Ross was one of 13 children born to the boss of a Hudson's Bay Company fur trading post in Northern Ontario. Ross, who spoke English and Ojibway growing up, learned to skate on Whitefish Bay using using primitive clamp-on skates. His mother would swaddle him in layers of clothing, something he never forgot: "I must have become immune to body-checking in those days. I carried so much padding that an arrow couldn't pierece my armor."

You make an excellent point about Superior Lake not making sense here. Doing my own research on the issue, there are a bunch of bodies of water—and other geographical entities—named Whitefish, or some derivative thereof. The book source says nothing about Lake Superior.

I have hidden the dubious content in the article for now, but I think it makes most sense here to remove change "He first learned to skate as a child on Whitefish Bay, part of Lake Superior", to "He first learned to skate as a child on nearby Whitefish Lake". It somewhat falls afoul of Wikipedia:Verifiability, but I think there's a strong case here for bending that rule. Maxim_(talk) 00:25, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

A note that this has now been resolved, via a mention in Eric Zweig's biography of Ross. Kaiser matias (talk) 22:17, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Art Ross was born January 13, 1885 not 1886

Eric Zweig released a new book about Art Ross and it's in big part on google. He corrected a lot of things on him like in 2014 his grandson Art Ross III corrected the year of his birth on his headstone. What did you think? Here it is on google --> https://books.google.ca/books?id=CNCMBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA22&lpg=PA22&dq=art+ross+headstone+mount+royal+cemetery&source=bl&ots=avOO2xWGx1&sig=dEFrvx1B_mtnb2rbxxE4-SxfNeU&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAmoVChMIiaSD4obrxwIVBlmSCh2Z2QBh#v=onepage&q=art%20ross%20headstone%20mount%20royal%20cemetery&f=false --Danielvis08 (talk) 23:41, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Coaching stats reference

http://www.hockey-reference.com/coaches/rossar01c.html --Danielvis08 (talk) 01:48, 5 February 2016 (UTC)