Talk:20th Century Studios

Another Distribution Kerfufle again...

Look I know there has been edit wars alot about Disney distrubuting 20th Century stuff but I just don't understand. Even the pages say "Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures distributes and markets the films produced by 20th Century Studios" yet no one removed it and the previous person said it is incorrect and even the movies 20th does never mention "Distrubuted by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures" so for every movie 20th does are we not gonnna mention Disney at all its as if people still think 20th Century is a seperate studio instead of being owned by Disney. NakhlaMan (talk) 07:34, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

No, we're not going to mention Disney. InfiniteNexus (talk) 05:45, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Any reason why? NakhlaMan (talk) 08:54, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Per the four five reasons I very clearly outline in the section above (#Distribution). InfiniteNexus (talk) 17:48, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Examples for introduction

I revised the list of examples to use the list of franchises from an article. It's basically the same as the list of franchises from before. And rather than list out every single individual movie and television show, I picked a single example for each: Titanic (highest-grossing movie of all time for 12 years as well as an Academy Award for Best Picture winner) and The Simpsons (the longest running scripted American television show of all time and it was also mentioned in the title of the article). Daniel Quinlan (talk) 23:10, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Note that the article only mentions Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope because the other Star Wars movies in the original six films were already sold to Disney as part of Lucasfilms, but I used the broader "six films" for the introduction because the list of examples isn't about the acquisition. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 23:13, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

What is not on the list is Anastasia (1997) because it is not particularly notable from the standpoint of box office numbers, awards, or being a significant franchise. I mention this movie specifically because someone keeps adding it back and refuses to discuss it. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 05:41, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Template:Ping Template:Ping Template:Ping Pinging a few people who have edited this article or participated on the talk page previously. I'm hoping to get some consensus on the list. Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 05:43, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

I agree that Anastasia doesn't need to be on the list. Your revised list was fine. Mediafan200 (talk) 15:46, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Just pick the most notable from List of highest-grossing films and List of highest-grossing media franchises. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:35, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Based on a "highest-grossing" criteria, we should list these franchises:

• first six Star Wars movies: billions (well over any threshold we set)
• X-Men: $6.9 billion
• Ice Age: $6.42 billion
• Avatar: $5.78 billion
• The Simpsons: $4.9 billion (only TV franchise that makes the list of highest-grossing media franchises)
• Planet of the Apes: ​$2.27 billion

As far as films go, Titanic and The Sound of Music are both in the top 10 for inflation-adjusted box office. Cleopatra "only" made $421 million adjusted for inflation so I think it misses the cut. (I checked every movie listed in the cited Independent article.)

Comparing that to Special:Permalink/1181570167, it suggests we should:

• remove Die Hard, Alien, Predator, Independence Day, and Kingsman
• add The Sound of Music

Digging a bit deeper, the worldwide box office for several additional franchises:

• Die Hard: $1,440,546,330
• Alien: $1,352,383,883
• Independence Day: $1,207,082,826
• Kingsman: $951,151,686
• Home Alone: $914,762,040
• Predator: $443,164,018

None of those are even close to Planet of the Apes so I'm content to leave them off the list. I'd suggest we agree on a minimum box-office cut-off. I'd suggest $2B if we want the above more compact list or $1B if we want to include several additional franchises. I'm fine with either approach. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 21:04, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

$2B for franchises and maybe $400m + Academy Award for Best Picture win or nomination for non franchise films? Mediafan200 (talk) 21:26, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

I'd rather not include nominations as any part of the criteria, especially because the number of nominees has varied over time and started increasing significantly in 2009. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:10, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

I think box office is the easiest, most accurate, and most objective criterion we can use. To keep the lead brief and emphasize only the most notable properties, I agree with keeping the cut-off at $2B. InfiniteNexus (talk) 17:02, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Anastasia was a box office hit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1008:B088:E846:A587:4BA0:BE75:C28A (talk) 14:00, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

It seems like we have consensus for a $2B cut-off. That gets two very notable movies that also won best picture into the introduction so I don't think we need to quibble over additional criteria. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 21:45, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

You should add Family Guy, since the franchise made $3.8 Billion. 23.245.47.124 (talk) 04:40, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source for this? It's not mentioned in List of highest-grossing media franchises. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 04:51, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Just wanted to chime in and say that I agree with what was settled upon here. The metrics were fairly established and keeps the introduction from being too oversaturated with examples from the studio's film library. Something like this can be used as a framework on other similar studio articles. Well done! That being said, I rewrote the line mentioning Titanic and The Sound of Music to keep it more concise while maintaining the gist of their nobility. I also removed The Simpsons because that is a television series produced by sister unit 20th Television Animation, not 20th Century Fox/Studios. Even the Independent article delineates that. Only the 2007 film was released by the film studio. ~ Jedi94 (Want to tell me something?) 05:32, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2024

Editoman (talk) 12:39, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

I want to put in the owners part News Corporation (1985-2013) 21st Century Fox (2013-2019) The Walt Disney Company (2019-present)

File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The article lede and the History section already mention all of those companies. RudolfRed (talk) 17:27, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Article issues and classification

• Reassess article to C-class.

The B-class criteria #1 states: Template:Tq

The article is in the following categories:

• Unreferenced Los Angeles articles.
• Unreferenced Southern California articles
• Unreferenced California articles

The article has unsourced content:

• Third paragraph of the "From founding to 1956" subsection. Several paragraphs have dangling sentences (sentence after a source)
  • There is actually far too much unsourced content to list. -- Otr500 (talk) 04:58, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Logo update request

Bringing this logo File:20th Century Fox 1972.png Postmaster12 (talk) 14:59, 6 June 2025 (UTC)