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uwe kils

hallo Flcelloguy - my students exercised as oceanographers, taking code from my space preparing for a German demonstration project on virtual university, the idea of Erik Moeller (user:eloquence) of the Wikiversity for online e-teaching and e-research and I offered my cooperation as teacher and my interactive virtual microscope for a course in Meeresbiologie and Biologie der Antarktis - for that project it is important to have reproducible credentials for the teachers. We also plan to move educational content from expensive university servers to the free project (in Germany we don't even have tuition in the University) - I really don't care if I am sysop or not, I have that all behind me (it would have been nice if the yearslong punishment (without vote!) would have been over, for political reasons and fundraising for the cyber university) we try to help the NeXT generation - best greetings and keep up with the fine work UK Uwe Kils 21:59, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

thank you for your time and friendly words - we are used to work in groups (schooling) -

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together we are strong

and in a group every member can make an additional wiki account before one can call it sock - user:viking was my family, user:vikings were friends from Scandinavia, user:oceanographer are scientists and friends working for the idea of proposing a cyber university like Wikiversity, and I am part of them - I got mad when oceanographer showed me this and asked Dante when the ban would be over http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADante_Alighieri&diff=14214269&oldid=14214194 - we did not expect the reaction and multi-campaign of Michael Snow, the lawyer - it would be nice if you could look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Uwe_Kils and make a vote - it would be good to have as ref point for teacher of wikiversity, that is much more important for us than adminship - UK 68.46.71.104 19:55, 28 May 2005 (UTC)Uwe Kils 20:27, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

thank you very much, that is very nice of you Uwe Kils 20:59, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

Hi Flcelloguy! I don't quite understand what you mean by "other side". An RfA is not a question of sides. It's a question of making up your mind whether you want to vote yes or no. "Yes" means that you trust the user not to misuse his admin powers, and for many voters it also means that they think the person will indeed use its admin abilities, i.e. that the new admin will also be active and not screw up badly, i.e. that he knows the rules well enough. If you feel confident to vote "yes", then by all means do so: it's your vote. If you want to dig up the whole old story, just read the links given in the current RfA, including the old RfA; they sum it up pretty well. If you want to know why other people voted the way they did, you might get more answers if you asked them directly on their talk pages. If you want a slightly fuller explanation of my "no" vote, check my talk page, where I felt I should explain it to Kils himself. Lupo 19:52, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

Deleted table

I saw you deleted that table on your userpage. You may be interested in Help:Tables which shows how to code tables using wikiformat instead of HTML. Also you could put it on a subpage like User:Flcelloguy/Team to save room on your main userpage. Happy editing! Mgm|^(talk) 21:09, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

Greetings

Saw your username pop up and wanted to see if I knew you or not, as a Florida bassoonist. (Guess not.) Greetings anyhow! Out of curiosity, who do you study with? Mindspillage (spill yours?) 01:40, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

My RfA

No problem about not beating me to it, although I am honoured that you considered it. Thanks also for your comments on my RfA! JYolkowski // talk 02:06, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

WP:RFA

Thanks for your understanding and Neutral vote. As for Dnm's comments, my reporting the vandalism had caught out another participant - his friend, David 5000 - and so he understandably acted against me. The extra two articles Dnm mentioned were also reported, by me, at the same time. Just to clear it up if it were to concern you. Hedley 23:17, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!

Nope, not a cellist, though I used to play viola at one point. It wasn't a strength of mine. And very happy that someone else is adding to and even more importantly bluelinking the list!...

By the way, note Wikipedia:Naming_conventions#Pieces of music : this is meant, mostly to create a uniform naming convention (for instance for [[Cello Concerto No. 1 (composername)]]... of course, I would then go and write Violoncello concerto (article) and Violoncello concerti (category). Bother.) and also to reduce possible ambiguities, unlikely here of course. Possibly move the contents to Élégie (Fauré) or something similar and then have the original redirect there? Admittedly it's somewhat unlikely more than one Élégie is someone's opus 24, but maybe not that unlikely. (More convincing that it's unlikely that two pieces worth including in an encyclopedia both do, but that's something else.)

(One of Rodrigo's two cello concertos is on later this evening, will be good to hear webcast.) Thanks again for the note! Schissel : bowl listen 00:43, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your vote in support of my admin nomination. Paul August ☎ 16:36, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your support

Thank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_>|< 08:19, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your support

Thank you for supporting my candidacy for adminship. Kelly Martin 12:41, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, and about Cello sonata

To answer the question about Cello sonata and etc. - following the lead of User:RobertG who did the same for Piano concerto and List of compositions for piano and orchestra, I split the list of cello sonatas from the page Cello sonata in hopes that the page Cello sonata can more easily become more than a list (there are historical questions, questions of instrumental balance, ... that aren't being covered; and I was adding more to the list than anyone else of course. I didn't strictly start Cello sonata but it's true there wasn't much there when I found it, not even counting the list.)

As to the RfA - I gratefully accept (not without trepidation :) )! Schissel : bowl listen 23:48, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

Xiangqi

Saw your comment on my talk page. In return, I'll say thanks for nominating the xiangqi article for Wikipedia:Featured articles. :) —Lowellian (talk) 17:38, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

krill

hallo Flcelloguy! can you please take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates#Antarctic_krill maybe help with some editing / formatting / vote - best greetings Uwe Kils 20:37, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

I changed the three points, I just do not know what more to write about the eye, nothing is known, I just thought it would be nice to share the beauty of the structure with others, just click on the eye three times Uwe Kils 15:39, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

thank you everybody

I would like to express my thanks to everybody helping in the nomination of Antarctic krill. I think 3 1/2 supports and a long long discussion are an unexpected and great outcome for a critter so remote and unknown - you should see how little and poor Antarctic krill is represented in Encarta and Britannica - this is the best reviewed and resourced general article of krill we know of - it is impossible to fullfill all wishes at the same time - this is what we did with our all product peer review stamp to qualify this stage of the article for academic exercises, especially for our dreams of a Virtual university within Wikiversity - good luck to you all Uwe Kils 21:48, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

RfA

Belatedly, thank you very much indeed for the nomination and statement! Schissel : bowl listen 23:39, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

And having just noticed the Barnstar *blink, blush and bow* I shall endeavor to be worthy of it. I appreciate it. Schissel : bowl listen 23:45, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

Theo RFA

Thank you for supporting my nomination and for adding the magic number. --Theo (Talk) 07:13, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Signature

Hi Flcelloguy. Did you recently change your signature? It seems to be missing a closing </small> tag. Happy editing, --TenOfAllTrades(talk) 22:07, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Pope John Paul II FAC

Flcelloguy, I would like to collaborate with you on working with the JPII article. Please leave me a note on my page... Thanks! --SVera1NY 01:11, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Helvarg FAC

Thank you for changing your comment to support at David Helvarg FAC. I had been quietly wracking my brain for possible extra material and came up blank every time.—Theo (Talk) 11:13, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Auto Signature

Hello! Thanks for the help with auto signing. I'm now using keys that I haven't touched since I've had my computer :-) Thanks again. Gillean666 15:26, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

RFA

Just wanted to make sure you know I wasn't picking on you at Ten's RFA.

When I posted my note, I wasn't thinking of you, I was thinking of users who hadn't voted yet; one might come along to vote, see what was said, then go to see what Boothy said. When they arrived at his talk page, of course, they wouldn't find anything, so they might ask again. By putting a note at the RFA, I wasn't commenting on your innocent actions, just trying to prevent anyone else from getting confused. (I didn't think your message to Boothy was harassing in the first place!)

My note about leaving him alone was intended to stop the discussion of his motives in the RFA; I felt it was becoming more about why those two had voted no and less about Ten's merits.

Hope this clears it all up, and that all the controversey will die down. -- Essjay · Talk 23:01, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

• You're welcome! -- Essjay · Talk 03:04, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Your signature

Could you shorten your signature? Also, images in signatures are on unnccessary burden on the servers. See [[WP:~~~~]]. r3m0t ^talk 08:15, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

Seconded Trampled ^talk 21:46, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Looks good. Could you make it a little shorter? ("Sing" for talk perhaps?) r3m0t ^talk 16:22, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Comment

well not sure if i know what im doing bere im new log on is moom53 i asked the question on ecco mono trying to fogure out how to use this site.. im not sure if antique place would give me the right info since its more historical and antique road show ive already tried and still no response but im sure im one of many who ask questions

Chess

I don't mind a game; I hope it doesn't take a month though :). WHen do we start? =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:59, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Where's the board? =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:20, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

I'd take white. Do I have to only edit the text box to move? =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:31, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Ok I've played as white =Nichalp «Talk»=

yea I moved. i'll tell u whn I'm done for today! :) =Nichalp «Talk»=

Its yr turn. =Nichalp «Talk»=

• d4
• Nxd4
• Nxc6
• Qxd8+ check!

Its 1am my side. I'll be off soon, so I'll stop here today. =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:34, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

• Bg5
• bxc3

Chess

Yeah, absolutely, I'll give you a holler then. Although I should say that it might take awhile just to finish this tournament, and I am not 100% sure that a new one will be played right after. As for the announcing, I put it up on the Village pump and advertised it HARD on IRC :P The thing was, i didn't help! Almost nobody signed up, and we had to cut down the number of participants from 32 to 16. This shouldn't be a problem next time as there are alot of people besides you who have showed interest. Meanwhile you can still play a friendly game at Wikipedia:Sandbox/Chess if you want (or in your user-space). gkhan 19:25, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Do questions have to be original?

Hell no, none of mine are!  :-)

Glad you've signed up as a maintainer. Would you like to be in charge full-time? (I keep forgetting all about it...)

multima 00:05, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

Adminship JoJan

Thanks for your support for my nomination. JoJan 17:38, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Dagmar Nearpass

Don't bother with steps 2 & 3 of the VfD on this one. I'll add it to an existing VfD for all of the other teacher articles this guy has created. --Xcali 21:49, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Compeition - Wikipedia Cleanup Taskforce

I have approved and closed Competition for the Wikipedia Cleanup Taskforce. Thank you for your service. Respectfully, Randy Johnston 23:22, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

response from London

Uwe wants to share this with you (from his talk page):

Hello Kils

Just would like to state that i have very much enjoyed being involved in a project of this nature. To see the speed of co-operation between various people was (Uwe, Lupo and Salleman and all others) fantastic. It was a complete buzz to go off researching about a scientific subject and coming to some understanding and appreciation of a creature that i would have no knowledge or interest in otherwise. I would like to say that it takes a damn good teacher to get others interested in what they teach and i for one, if only in a rudimentary and general way have found the subject of Krill and sorrounding issues of ecology and environment fascinating. I think that says a lot about your willingness to let others participate in something which you obviously have great knowledge in and could easily have been a lot less humble with. At some point i will put up some informtion on my home page so at least people know a little more about me. Am going to try to extend the article on Ice-algae so any info you may have would be good. I hope the article on Antartic Krill gets featured as i think it is now very good.

Wikiversity sounds like a good idea but will need more time to go through the proposal (not too sure what help i could be).

Once again thanks Uwe! Yakuzai 22:50, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

that feels good

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Antarctic_krill

did you see who gave the picture of the day? take care Uwe Kils File:Heringmini.jpg 23:58, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)

My RFA

Thank you for supporting my RFA. Guettarda 23:39, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Democratic Labour Party (Trinidad and Tobago)

Hi. I was wondering if you might have a look at the article again and see if I've improved it enough to warrant a change in your vote. I have not done the inline refs - I haven't yet had time to figure out how that template works, and I'm not quite sure where to put the refs, since most of the material comes from a single source. I did add a few refs, and they helped expand my understanding of the party and the situation. I would like to eventually reference it properly - I am trained to reference everything that isn't an original thought of mine - but time and access to sources is likely to make that a slow process. If you feel that the inline refs are necessary for it to pass muster, I consider that a reasonable position. Regardless, let me know what you think of the changes I made. Thanks very much for your input. Guettarda 13:03, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. I really appreciate it. You're off to a great start in Wikipedia - keep up the good work. Guettarda 22:11, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Re: Mind Benders

I don't know what you want to do with the game, and I am not certain how it was organized in the first place... -- AllyUnion (talk) 22:19, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

One thing I think you need to do is clearly explain how the game works... That is one clarification I apparently need. -- AllyUnion (talk) 22:40, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

WP:MIND

Hi, Flcelloguy. Thanks for the message on Wikipedia:Mind Benders. I have a question though: Are we allowed to submit more than one entry for the Pre-Round artistic competition? Thanks, Sango123 22:37, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

Who's judging the entry winner? Sango123 03:06, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

An open vote sounds good. And the date is fine... just as long as you post a reminder on everyone's talk pages. :) Sango123 22:34, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Flcelloguy, I have submitted my creation on the Mind Bender page. -- Riffsyphon1024 18:15, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

RfA

Thank you for supporting my RfA. You were the first to support me and that was certainly influential!  Grue  06:03, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

RfA for Sn0wflake

Thank you for supporting my nomination and for keeping my vote count up to date, I really appreciate it. Cheers. --Sn0wflake 03:34, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks (and a gift for you)

File:Wikicookie.jpg

For excellence in viola humor

Thank you so very much for the adminship support and the interesting viola joke on my talk page. Per the usual "Bratsche Viola Joke Competition", you are hereby awarded a Wikicookie. Enjoy! Bratsche^{talk 5 pillars} 16:13, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Actually, no. 'Cellists are usually the ones making fun of the violists! I'll look around, and ask some fellows in my orchestra, though. Cheers, Bratsche^{talk 5 pillars} 00:21, Jun 27, 2005 (UTC)

My RfA

On my last RfA you said you'd support in one month. It has been roughly a month and Jtkiefer has nominated me. If you wish to vote, the RfA is at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Hedley 2. Cheers! Hedley 11:04, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Chess

I've transcluded the page so we can now add it to our watchlist. See: Wikipedia:Sandbox/Chess/SC7. BTW good guess and safe travel. =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:10, Jun 26, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the medal

Hi! Thank you for the medal. I promise to write some more Featured Articles with the power of the medallion :). Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= June 29, 2005 07:15 (UTC)

vfd subpage headers

Just a reminder: The headers for VfD subpages should be level 2 (that is, three = signs on each side). Or you could use the templates, but I agree they're more work than they're worth. --W(t) 30 June 2005 23:25 (UTC)

Vandal bots

Hi! No need to try and expand those idiotic articles like "Jimmy Spagnola" where the article isn't anything more than an echo of the title. Those are done by wiki vandal bots. They come on via anonymous proxies all day and all night. People, frankly, are idiots.  :) Anyway, just tag them with {{del}} next time you find one. Best, Lucky 6.9 30 June 2005 23:28 (UTC)

Glad to be of service. Why people get off on these bots is beyond me. Just gotta keep tagging and bagging. See ya! - Lucky 6.9 1 July 2005 02:16 (UTC)

Re: Clueless newbies

Yeah, that pretty much answers my question. Thanks. NickBush24 July 2, 2005 22:52 (UTC)

To Cesar, FireStar and yourself

Saw your note about the Administrators list, went there. Just another bunch of redirects and definitions. No one to speak to. I see no way to discuss this except to engage in a flame war with them making charges and me disproving them as I have many times before and you lot deleting my replies to make me look bad. For twenty years they said my name was Chris Hunter. I kept telling them they were wrong. I am known by many names, Ashida Kim is the one I have chosen. Now they are saying my name is Radford Davis. They are wrong AGAIN! But, do they admit they were wrong for the first twenty years? Of course not. Just like you. You hide behind your silly policies and anonymity. Tell you what, give me Aesopian's address and I'll jump in his face personally and it won't be on your PUBLIC FORUM. Because no amount of proof is sufficient for a troll. It's just like being a Bush nominee. If I was Jesus Christ walking on the water they'd say, "Yeah! But, he can't swim." That is the mentality we are dealing with her Cesar. You gonna help? Or are you just part of the problem having a good time at my expense? Your HELP desk is the same, just a bunch of policies that are not being followed by your "contributors." ALL Of what Aesop says is based on gossip from Bullshido, who have made a career out of calling me a queer. No one interviewed ME for this "encyclopedia article." You just publish a bunch of lies and don't even tell me? Then call yourself fair? For every knock by Bullshido I can produce ten letters that say how much good I've done. One is attached here. I posted it before but one of your guys DELETED IT!

I remain, Ashida Kim

Grand-Master Kim.

Thank you, Sir. I owe you my gratitude!

Please allow me to explain and I promise I will keep it short so as not to bore you.

When I was a child, I was raised in a very destructive home. My parents were abusive and negative. When I was eleven years old I came across your publications Secrets of the Ninja and Secrets of Invisibility. I studied them diligently and practiced daily without fail. Meditation, stealth, self control and focus. You taught me about the perceived image projected by "ego" and showed me how to find my True Self. You taught me to breathe properly so as to tap into my Chi energy. You taught me to control the mind and body like a machine. You gave me an identity; No name. You taught me everything; No art. From your teachings I grew strong and intelligent. When I had a question growing up I thought, "What would Master Kim expect of a student?" I realized that the Ninja is an intelligent dynamic person who can adapt to any situation and use it to their advantage. My life was difficult and sad, but you taught me to see the strength in this situation. I turned weakness into strength and adapted to suit my needs. Never once did I turn to any type of "vice" to control my "self" in my formative years. (no drugs, no alcohol, etc.) I turned to your teachings to guide me through these years of challenges. I grew up strong and intelligent and to this day I still practice what you have taught me. Without your teachings, your openness to share this secret knowledge, I would surely have suffered a far worse fate. My brother died by his own hand because he could not control his thoughts and they crushed him emotionally.

Today, your teachings still guide me. Still learning, still practicing, still mystified by these powerful yet simple teachings; I don't know just how to say Thank You.

No matter what I say or write, it cannot convey the depth of my Respect for you, my Gratitude to you, and the Honor of learning from your teachings. You have guided me where others abandoned me.

I remain humbly; your ghost student. You will always be to me, my hidden Master. (Thank you.)

Gratefully,

Brian Majanovic 36 years old

So! 'Nuff said. I'd rather have one letter like this, and this one came in this week, than a thousand kudos from jerks like YOU!

Thanks for welcoming

By the way, which country do you come from?

Stll ducking the issue

I am not going to play any more silly run around the maze typing in my complaint that will never be viewed or acted on by your staff. This is just more feldercarb and stalling. "Cite my sources...?" I AM the source Jack!Besides for years the trolls at Bullshido said I couldnt fight, so Matt Breyer put up one of my fights on his site. What happened? They didn't beleive it was me. For years they said that I wasn't a member of the BDFS so I finally sent them a copy of my ID Card. What did they say? "Oh that one doesn't count because it is just one you can get through the mail." EVERYONE GOT THEM IN THE MAIL! So, you see, my friend, the game is rigged! All I'm asking for is a fair shake and all I get is more BS! I ask again that we settle this by e-mail and stop making me come here to debate this publically BECAUSE THAT IS JUST A TROLL GAME!

Ashida Kim

FINE!!!! You say you know many administrators and will put one in touch with me? DO IT! 'Cause you are utterly useless.

Ashida Kim

Ashida Kim

I've looked over the material related to Ashida Kim and have come to the conclusion that there's not much we can do to help this guy. He's already had several administrators offer to converse with him. It's obvious that he wants to intimidate people into accepting his version of the article through blather and screed, which just isn't going to work on Wikipedia (it never does). I'm going to continue to watch this editor and this article, but I see no point in attempting to engage an editor who has already disregarded several attempts at engagement by other administrators. An unfortunate situation, in any case. Kelly Martin July 3, 2005 23:53 (UTC)

I left User:Ashida Kim a quick note mentioning some of our policies. Not sure whether this is going to help matters at all, but if not, it probably makes sense to start escalating matters by filing an RfC. Thanks, JYolkowski // talk 4 July 2005 01:40 (UTC)

The best thing seems to be to ignore Ashida Kim or make light of his comical behavior rather than treat him as an equal. Until he acts like an actual Wikipedian, he deserves a little over patronizing. Karmafist 02:34, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

What The Muffins

I noticed that you'd marked What The Muffins for speedy delete. Thought you'd want to know that the tag was removed a minute later by the author. Since I didn't know your rationale for marking it for deletion I didn't add the tag back myself . Ironically, the author has been unable to get the redirect he's trying to put in place to work anyway. Tobycat 4 July 2005 23:48 (UTC)

• Actually, you may want to hold off fixing that redirect. I ended up researching the target web page to find that it is a non-notable website. The article content is right off of the FAQ from their website and their fan forum has only 142 members. I'm in the process of VfDing them now.Tobycat 4 July 2005 23:54 (UTC)
  • Wow you're fast!. I guess I'll try tagging the redirect, too, but don't know how that will work. We'll find out though.  :-) Tobycat 4 July 2005 23:57 (UTC)

RC Patrolling

Hi there Flcelloguy. To start let me say more of a well done to you for your RC patrolling - in fact, speak of the devil, whilst using the Vandal Fighter I was just thinking what great work you've been doing the past half hour I've been on RC. To be honest I've no idea why the original IP doesn't show when deleting pages and I think it would be a Q for the help desk. Not to worry too much though, it's not something that fellow admins would look upon in the deletion log as you being the originator of the deleted articles. Keep up the good work as ever. Craigy File:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg (talk) July 6, 2005 23:27 (UTC)

Prexy resignations

Salve!
I posted the text of the law regarding presidential resignations here: [1]. Thanks for your help. PedanticallySpeaking July 8, 2005 20:31 (UTC)

Help with 216.112.42.61

Since you were helping me with the Alva, Oklahoma vandal, I was hoping you could help me with a more subtle problem. User:216.112.42.61 has been adding abusive and hostile material to Talk:Pathological skepticism. His changes to the Northern Mockingbird and other pages usually don't strike me as trollish or vandalistic, even if they seem of poor quality. But his additions to Pathological skepticism are rambling nonsense that would take several studies to support, and he will not produce a cite; and his additions to the Talk page are just plain hostile to the point of insinuating physical threats.

If there's some place better to go, point me to it; there seems to be a lot going on in the underbelly of Wikipedia that I'm completely unfamilar with and can't find a good FAQ for.--Prosfilaes 8 July 2005 23:22 (UTC)

Thanks...

though more recent edits suggest the civility there was a thin veneer? Unfortunate! Hope this finds you well. Schissel : bowl listen July 9, 2005 04:02 (UTC)

Uncle G rfa

Hi - I thought you'd like to know Uncle G has accepted his nomination on WP:RFA. -- Rick Block (talk) July 9, 2005 17:16 (UTC)

Re: Deletion

Hi Flcelloguy!

Please carry on with the great work on RC patrol!

The problem with tagging a page that an admin deletes is one that frustrated me before I was an admin. Although I have never seen any discussion of this problem, I think that most admins are aware of it and just take it in their stride. Personally I would rather you continue to tag pages: firstly, there may not be admins on RC patrol; secondly, the admins might miss a page that you see. Before I was an admin I developed a couple of approaches to try to minimise this problem: originally I would wait to tag a page, I use a tabbed browser and I would open pages that I thought were speedy candidates in a new tab and come back to them, say, ten minutes later to see it they had been deleted (and then add a tag if they hadn't). Then when I discovered CDVF I started to monitor that whilst adding the {{d}} tag—if an article gets deleted it disappears from the window, so I could see if it got deleted before I hit the Save page button.

Pages like Autocatalytic enzyme are speedy candidates, however, if the article is created by a new user I usually hang back before deleting. Sometimes new users don't understand the editing process and mess things up. If the article hasn't been expanded after what I consider a reasonable period of time (15 minutes to an hour depending on how tolerant I am feeling) I will delete it. JeremyA 03:08, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

• I'm not sure that I could do RC patrol with only one window open--I have crashed my browser through trying to do too much at once on a number of occasions whilst RC patrolling! If you aren't using it already you might like CDVF. As I said above, so long as your screen is big enough to be able to see CDVF and your browser at the same time (I can overlap the two just enough to see), you can see if an article is deleted before you add the speedy tag. A five minute block from recreation is a pretty good idea, although I would suggest just one minute as one of the common admin tasks (fixing cut/paste moves) requires deleting/undeleting a page in a short spave of time. Speedy deletion has been very backlogged recently, when I looked on sunday there were about 150 articles waiting. I deleted a lot of them, but it actually takes a long time to clear out the speedy deletion page. BTW--I played the cello too when I was at school, I was never any good at it though. JeremyA (talk) 02:22, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Marquees

You could consider using animated gifs for the purposes you mentioned. - Mgm|^(talk) 05:07, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

File:Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png

I award you this Random acts of kindness barnstar for doing so much to help out newbies and for welcoming new users. Keep up the good work! Y0u (Y0ur talk page) (Y0ur contributions) 22:54, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

...for the quick revert. :-) (Hey, wow, rite of passage; my first accusation of sockpuppetry!) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 23:49, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick reversion on mine, too. :) —Ghakko 04:07, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

WP:MIND

Hello, Flcelloguy. The Pre-Round at Wikipedia:Mind Benders ends tomorrow: Saturday, July 16, 2005. Just a heads-up. :) Regards, Sango123 17:11, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

Hello, Flcelloguy. Unfortunately, voting between the gallery tags doesn't work. It just produces an empty square next to the image for which you cast your vote, so I've taken the liberty to implement the voting system from WP:BAP. Please expand on it as you see fit; it was created in a hurry. (And I have a suspicion that I killed Bonus Three by deleting some comments between the <!-- and --> tags. Please reinstate them if that is the case.) Thanks, Sango123 02:51, July 16, 2005 (UTC)

RV

Thanks for reverting vandalism on my user page. JuntungWu 04:26, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks so much for the warm welcome! :D I really appreciated it. I'm slowly starting to get the hang of this place, particularly with working with my expertise/obsession, anime and manga (specifically Fullmetal Alchemist and Ghost in the Shell at the moment, though I'll branch out soon enough.) Kawa 02:00, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Mind Benders

What will happen after the voting has closed? Deryck C. 02:05, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Request for adminship

Hello, Flcelloguy/Archive. I have just submitted a request for adminship, and I would be honored if you submitted a vote. :) Thanks, Sango123 19:10, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

File:Janitor's bucket with mop.jpg

The mop is mine!

Thanks for voting in my RfA; I promise I'll wield my sacred mop with care. If you ever need me for anything, you know where to find me. Thanks again! -- Essjay · Talk 15:19, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Re: User:Kama

Thanks for notifying me of that. Kama probably just copied and pasted the content from my user page for testing, as she modified it but kept a thing or two (e.g. the {{Userpage}} template). Regards, Sango123 20:29, July 20, 2005 (UTC) (And I'm refraining from thanking you for voting until my RfA is over. :))

What does it mean?

What does your name "Flcelloguy" mean, and what's it composed of? (answer in my talk page if you can) Deryck C. 02:17, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Of course, I never thought cello relates to cellophane. Deryck C. 13:16, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Bending time... for the mind...

I notify the users who happen to play the last round. But under your situation, you might want to give a rough time when the questions are going up. But traditionally, it is first come, first serve on WikiFun. --AllyUnion (talk) 05:58, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

EST

EST=GMT+? ..Deryck C. 07:51, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

(note: I've found a few ESTs on wikipedia and the one which is most commonly used is GMT-5. If that's true, the competition will be very unfair to me, because I'm at GMT+8, that means the competition starts at 3am in the morning.) Deryck C. 07:54, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Mind Benders

It seems that I'm most likely impossible to participate in the mind benders... (at the moment I woke up this morning, all except 1 question were already answered correctly)... Now I wanna apply to you for the maintainership of the Mind Benders... Deryck C. 04:01, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Chess

Sorry for my unexpected absence. I had no time to let you know abt my absence. I have played my move, thanks for being so patient. PS I cannot be certain if I'll be on wikipedia this week, but all the same, I'll do my best to make a move when time permits. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:49, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

VFD

Hi, you voted to keep Authentic Matthew because you said that the topic was legitimate. The topic is "what was the original form of matthew". This is already discussed at Q Gospel, synoptic problem, markan priority, two source hypothesis, AND Gospel of Matthew.

What actually exists at Authentic Matthew is the claim that the original version of the gospel of Matthew is the Gospel of the Hebrews, which is also claimed to be the same as Gospel of the Nazarenes, and Gospel of the Ebionites.

This claim is supported by no-one outside the article's creator, and is a thesis badly strung together from misuse of parts of the aforementioned articles. None of the article's references support it (they support the aforementioined articles). The claim that the Gospel of the Hebrews is the same as the Gospel of the Nazarenes, and Gospel of the Ebionites, is near universally regarded, by academics, and non-academics, as wrong, based on an error Jerome made because he didn't have enough access to these sources. This article is entirely the original research of the author of it, and although the title exists elsewhere, the content exists nowhere else whatsoever.

Is it possible for you to re-contemplate your vote? ~~~~ 08:04, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Sango's RfA

File:Hot chocolate.jpg

Hot chocolate for you!

Hi, Flcelloguy. Thank you very much for supporting my RfA! I am honored by your praise and hope to wield the mop responsibly. Sango123 01:21, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

Mind Benders

In fact we may write the questions together onto a secret page (that only we 2 knows) and later move the page onto the question page of round 3. Deryck C. 03:04, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Canadian Heraldic Authority

I completely overhauled the article, and I wish to see if any of your objections have been answered. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 08:37, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Mind Benders again

Thanks. I'll add some special code to the page to avoid accidental peeking at the questions. Deryck C. 16:51, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Contacting others, and generally finding your way around this swamp...

I'm sure the people who designed and built this understand how to find the non-mainstream stuff, but for the rest of us!

I want to contact the contributor of 2 photos put up in the commons. Dead-end, no user page! The page is http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Entertainment, and the photos are the two of Theaker, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Theaker_von_ziarno_20050722_closeup.jpg and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Theaker_von_ziarno_20050722.jpg put up by NeoUrfahraner. Hey, a simple e-mail message and we are (part) done, yes... Well, no. Then we discover that even though we have created a user account, it does not exist for asking for help.

At least the edits to the pics seems to have worked. And the TWO create user accounts. The second after finding, the replay that went to the anon IP page, even if I can't find it again.

--Prep 17:26, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your vote of support on my recent RfA. I was quite surprised by the amount of support I received, and wish to extend my thanks to you for taking the time to support my nomination for adminship. -- Longhair | Talk 12:07, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Admin

Hello, I've seen all the work you do with helping newbies, and I wanted to run this by you: would you accept if I nominated you for adminship? Y0u (Y0ur talk page) (Y0ur contributions) 19:29, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

Done. Y0u (Y0ur talk page) (Y0ur contributions) 19:48, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

Adminship, and Mind Benders

Firstly, congratulations on being nominated for Adminship. I've seen your "good work" and I strongly supported the motion. Second, how do I answer the mind benders questions, exactly? Rob Church 17:45, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. Rob Church 17:51, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Aaargh! Me and my big edit-button. I tried to put a Barnstar on your user page, and I think I've broken the layout considerably. Sorry. Rob Church 18:06, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

File:Original Barnstar.png

Awarded for his tireless contributions and his insistence that newbies should be given the chance to flourish.

Awarded by Rob Church 18:12, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks and eBay

Thanks for your answers, and yes, after I posted that I got a message by someone who pointed me towards some useful entries.

about the "eBay" thingie its not "_eBay" but " eBay", here try it  eBay and see that it leads to a page (inexistent) called " eBay" (with the space). Apparently either someone already deleted it, or maybe empty pages delete "themselves" after a while?

well, thanks a lot, anyways Lacrymology 02:50:30, 2005-08-04 (UTC)

there, I created the page just for you. I clicked in the link I had left up there to create it too. Go to it, and see that it actually lists " eBay" and not EBay, and that the latter still exists--Lacrymology 15:08:31, 2005-08-04 (UTC)

=) its very very hard to link to it, I don't think it is necessary. Just deleting it should be fine. Funny all the links you made in my talk page linked to the original EBay, that should prove how hard and worthless it is to make this &nbsp;eBay eBay

sorry, I think I didn't make it very clear how to edit it.. you would have needed to edit where my link was to see it =). I still think It should not be necessary to make the redirect, but it doesn't hurt, obviously. --Lacrymology 15:23:37, 2005-08-04 (UTC)

Spelling

Hi. Is it FL cello guy or FI cello guy? Uncle Ed

Thanks for your support

Thank you for supporting my recent RfA. I was surprised and humbled by the number of positives votes. I'll be monitoring RfA regularly from now on and will look for a chance to "pay it forward". Cheers, --MarkSweep 01:38, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Your very own Admin Barn

Since it's pretty much been all but decided that you will be an admin, a title that you rightly deserve, you deserve an award that fits the large responsibilites that will go with taking on this new job. So I, Karmafist, instead of awarding you a mere barnstar, offer you an entire barn! Make your fellow wikipedians proud, if not for you, then for all subtropical string instrument enthusiasts :-) Karmafist 19:51, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

File:LightningVolt Barn.jpg

Flcelloguy's Admin Barn!

Don't panic!

I accidentally gave you sysop rights 11 minutes early. Please do not go crazy and start deleting pages or blocking other users quite yet because it's not official until 1941 hours. (Keep checking the bottom of your user page :-)

And if you need any help or advice related to admin chores, do please drop me a line. Uncle Ed 19:34, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations on your promotion to adminship, and good luck with that new mop! :) Cheers, Sango123 20:43, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Congrats on your Adminship. I voted neutral only because of your relatively short time as a registered user. But as I said, I have no doubts you'll make a fine Admin. Good luck with the mop! Regards, Redux 03:09, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

I've got a vandal for you

217.137.164.5, i'm going to keep an eye on him. Just wanted to give you a heads upKarmafist 19:14, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations

I hear congratulations are in order. What's that? Your wife didn't tell you? Oh, dear...;-)

Well done on getting promoted. You're welcome. Rob Church 20:55, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Good luck. Dmn / Դմն 21:11, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Likewise congrats

on your RfA! Looking forward to continuing to work with you Schissel : bowl listen 21:35, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Daniel Pipes

Thank you, Flc, I appreciate it. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 21:38, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Congrats

Congratulations on your successful RfA. Sorry I didn't get around to voting for you (on a break for the past two weeks) but I think that you'll make a great administrator. Cheers, JYolkowski // talk 21:57, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Your RFA

Congratulations, and you're very welcome! --Merovingian (t) (c) 21:58, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations from me as well, and you're welcome. Jayjg ^(talk) 14:39, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

rename of Template:Tl}

• To make it clear, Template:Tl would be left as a redirect. The only reason for the rename is so that ALL the speedy deletion templates can have names with the same prefix, so that they will group together in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion. I am not trying to get rid of Template:Tl, Template:Tl, or Template:Tl whatever the new "real" name is.

Do you really think this needs the Village Pump treatment? A) no one who uses any of the redirects will be affected, or will even know it has happened unless they look closely. b) it can be undone at any time. I wiuld hav been bold and just done it yesterday if Template:Tl hadn't been protected, or if I were an admin and could unprotect it. it was only protected due to vandalism, not becauae of an edit war or anything, and this can hardly be called vandalism. DES ^(talk) 14:58, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Rollback link

There are two places where you will find a rollback link:

1. The rollback link can be found on a user's contributions page, but only if that user was the last one to edit the page. For example, if you look at your own contributions there will be rollback link at the end of each line in which you were the last one to edit that page.
2. The rollback link also can be found on the Diff page when you are looking at the difference between the most recent version of a page and the last version. For example, if you look at the most recent diff on my user page, you will see the rollback link on the right side of the page under the "Current Version" link, and to the right of "Zzyzx11 (Talk | contribs)" .

Remember that you should only use the rollback tool to revert vandalism, because it automatically generates the "Reverted edits by X to last version by Y" comment in the edit summary. For any other edit, you should revert it normally so you can add a specific edit summary. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:05, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Congrats!

Congratulations! And no problem with the support - you'll be a fine admin. If you've any queries, feel free to ask (though I can't guarantee I'll know the answers!) Grutness...wha? 00:32, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Bucket

File:Janitor's bucket with mop.jpg

I hereby award you thy holy mop upon emerging triumpant of your RfA. (Redwolf24 05:05, 9 August 2005 (UTC))

How you like it? :D Redwolf24 05:05, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

BunkyBoopy

No problem :) Actually, by the time I got there, I noticed one person had blocked him for 48 hours, and someone else had blocked him indefinitely... but I figured, eh, nothing wrong with piling on another one. ;) Giving a second chance was okay, and it proved that he's just a troll. Honestly, there's rarely any redemption for these folks. --Golbez 20:20, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

Hello Celloman!

Lots of vandalism at "Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Ancient empires and their roles" the past couple hours. Can you keep an eye on it? Hamster Sandwich 21:21, 9 August 2005 (UTC) I forgot to congratulate you. So Congratulations! Hamster Sandwich 21:22, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Help

I need some help. I've been adding to an entry about Biff Rose. mostly I'm adding information that I've recieved about him, that is not positive. I think it is importnat to note this info, and not cover ovver it, as some of the sockpuppets for him have been doing.

I saw your listing and thought you might be able to look at the entry, review rose's websites, and lyrics, particularly Jimi Hendrix was a field hand, and some of his more anti semtic rants and help understand what I'm doing, and maybe explain it to the person called willmcw who attacks all new info added to the entry unless it comes from him, disavowing the # of revert rule.

thanks Steve espinola 22:41, 9 August 2005 (UTC)Steve

Biff Rose Protection

[note: the comments that follow refer to the situation on this page: [[2]] I regret that I have taken the bait and addressed certain accusations and behaviors here. If it makes any sense to move this entire section to the Biff Rose discussion page, I will understand and help if possible.

signed, Sojambi Pinola 05:36, 30 August 2005 (UTC)]

Thanks very much. Hopefully this matter will be put to rest in the next few days. I found your name on Meelar's page. you seemed to be someoen in relative control who was rational minded and impartial. Thanks agian. Steve espinola 23:50, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks from me too. FYI, I believe that Steve espinola is using a large number of sock puppets for this article. Once I have figured out the proper procedures for handling them I'll move forward on it. This editor has been selectively deleting comments from his user page so you might want to see a full version of the page - it's all recent. [3]. Cheers, -Willmcw 00:04, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

My name is actually Steve Espinola, and I am a friend of the real Biff Rose. The guy posing as Steve Espinola and Biff Rose is neither, and is vandalizing the Biff Rose page. I think you froze it in a vandalized state. If you write me from my website, www.SteveEspinola.com, and include a phrase of your choosing, I will echo it back and prove my identity.

Sojambi Pinola 9 August 2005

My name is Esteban Espinola. I go by Steve. I wasn't aware of Biff Rose, or the mass amounts of trouble concerning hiim until I joined the site a few days ago. What I did notice is that willmcw seemed to revert any edit not done by him. I asked for your help, and you froze the connection. Which I think is fair. Now this other Steve Espinola, who doesn't go by that name, and accuses me of trying to pose as him, is contacting me and deleting info from my users page. I deleted otehr info, in response to that, as Meelar notified me that willmcw had blanked my user page, and then altered it in an unflattering manner. then the Sojambi Pinola also defaced my user page. I have an email address with earthlink- a pay site- that will prove I am who I say I am. But I think the real concern here is that these people are identifying themselves as friends of Biff Rose, and therefore are wittingly or unwittingly adding information that does not tel lthe whole tale of Rose's story.

I went ot Rose's website, and purchased some music, the price was right, and there had been such hubbub about him, that it seemed warranted. It turns out his history is an angry one, and that he has a penchant in his later works to write Anti semitic screeds as well as racist songs-check the Jimi Hendrix was a field hand on biffrose.biz.. some have countered that he is sending up racial stereotypes. I disagree, but have used the language to put it that his detractors disagree with such notions. I think that is a fair and honest way to put it. The lyrics themselves are quoted on the entry, though willmcw keeps removing them from the order they are in, in effect burying the later ones, in favor of the earlier ones he himself put up. I feel that this one sdied view is tremnedously self serving. Important note- Steveespinola.com mentions rose, and how close the two of them are, making Sojmabi Pinola a sock puppet of Rose. God, that's a lot to write. I'm not a sockpuppet, though I can see that there is some reason to suspect me. I've been a worthy addition to wikipedia, editing and copy editing articles in the clean up pile. It seems willmcw is pretty good as well, but has been unable to see that I'm merely presenting a dissenting view, which has as much basis in fact as his own view on Rose's past and present. Sojambi Pinola hasn't seemed to edit many other articles.

In summation, I think the cap on Rose makes sense until Willmcw can abide by the rules of the wiki- especially the revert rule, which he has seemed to flaunt with consistent disregard. I had thought originally that editors could do as they pleased with their own talk pages, and hence my own manipulations, trying to clean my slate, as it were. willmcw has continued to pursue me, on other articles and now I may have to request some sort of request for arbitration in regards to him, and the flagrant abuse of wikipedia quorums for his own amusement. I think he's been involved in a few RfC's one at least that I know of, after being contacted by one of the people willmcw has abused in the past. I've contacted other people, with the hopes that noting my own troubles with willmcw, and in fact the person claiming to be Steve Espinola, who goes by Sojambie Pinola, will go back to editing, and stop attempting to sabotage some real information that I very easily obtained from Biff Rose's own websites. Ok. Enough. I'm tired of the whole process, I simply don't like being falsely accused of being someone I'm not. I kn ow the circumstances are strange, but the strange thing for me, is not that my name is being doubted, but that someone didn't use the name they accuse me of imitating and yet still say that I am imitating them, while I simply joined under the americanized version of my name. Hopefully this will be the end of it. I've notified a few other adminiistrators to try and spread this entirely and am even now planning on running as an administrator myself because of this, I think there needs to be an advocate against the more mercurial of these type of online persecutions. The more adminstrators that are aware of the situation, the more that will have to attest to the wrongdoings that have come up, and I feel I will be exonerated as merely another newbie contributing good solid factual information to the website.Steve espinola 05:07, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Your first lesson as an admin: no good deed goes unpunished. ;) Cheers -Willmcw 09:24, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

• [info] I believe the main issue at hand is that this user's first real post was claiming to be some one another person who is more heavily involved in the background of the Biff Rose article. This user proceeds to, apparently, vandalize the Biff Rose page (using *very* POV statements and deleting vast portions of it, repeatedly). That was when willmcw got involved. He noticed upon analyzing Espinola's contribution list that he had systemmically gone through the list of archived articles needing to be cleaned and just started adding a word here, removing paragraphs there and ceremoniously stripping the cleanup tags even when articles were a mess. He would then repeatedly strip them whenever some one would come back and change them, and thus he got into edit wars with on several more actively monitored articles. Pretty good for a 5 day old account :o — HopeSeekr of xMule (Talk) 15:58, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

There is a difference between between a fan/friend/biographer of someone and being their "Sockpuppet". User:Willmcw's use of the word implies that it means someone is using several different identities to hide that the work is all theirs. That is what this fake "Steve Espinola" is doing, and accusing others of precisely the thing he is doing. I, on the other hand, actually use the name "Steve Espinola" in my day to day life, and have prepared a discography of Biff Rose's released and unreleased recordings. That's what makes this other user's choice of that name troubling and suspicious...there are NOT two "Steve Espinolas" associated with Biff. The name "Sojambi Pinola" is a pen name I picked when I created my one Wikipedia account. The real Biff Rose, by the way, has not contributed any revisions to Wikipedia at all, as far as I know. You froze the Biff Rose page in a vandalized state.

Biff is certainly a button pusher and pot-stirrer, and he plays with difficult material. It is EASY to make him look bad by using his words, but it is not necessarily "accurate." Earlier versions of the user's revisions (under other screen names) made flat-out-libelous statements, claiming felonies. I reverted the Biff Rose page several times to remove this person's destructive edits, under his various names. "Willmcw", who was not even familiar with Biff but recognized the vandalism, did the same. He is obviously someone who has contributed intelligently to Wikipedia for quite a while, while the user calling himself "Steve Espinola" has not. We are not "sock puppets," and a simple checking of who-did-what-edit will make that clear. There is a clear and consistent pattern of writing and destructive intent to all this person's identities. thank you. Sojambi Pinola 19:05, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Calling Biff Rose a button pusher is like referring to a lynch mob as a quiet protest. His words on hiw website equate Jimi Hendrix to a cotton picking' niggah'- Ros'es words not my own. I think that speaks volumes toward his sentiments in regards to African Americans. I don't htink a consensus has quite been reached and would be appreciative if you would keep the site forzen until Pinola and Willmcw agree about the angry volatile nature of Rose's early work

[<--the above was left, unsigned, by Jonah Ayers 01:28, 17 August 2005 (UTC) in another part of your board.]

I think the real issue is whether Jonah Ayers will work in a respectful, consensus-oriented communicative manner with other writers. So far, not so bad today, ON the "temp" page. But statements like this concern me. The above should have been left on the Biff Rose discussion page where it can be debated; not here.Sojambi Pinola 06:35, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Actually it seems to me that the reason the page was frozen was not only were some people, though not me, writing intolerably untrue things about Rose, but also because his own friends were negating the fact that rose has an issue with calling african americans 'niggers' in his lyrics and Jewish people 'kikes'. This isn't about criticism, its right there in the lyrics, on the cd you have and I have and willmcw has never heard. So if our admin here who forze the list until there was some agreement can stand to keep it frozen while you try and explain for the umpteenth time why Rose is allowed to refer to Hendrix and other african americans as 'niggers' and to call jewish americans 'kikes' and that then will not be represented as a 'good thing' then we will have reached an agreement. I think Willmcw has been asked not to unfreeze the page himself as he is too close to the subject now. Thanks Flcelloguy for keeping an eye on this page. Jonah Ayers 22:13, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I hung out with Biff for 2 years in '86-87, when he lived above Durty Nellies West Irish Pub in Palatine, Illinois. Last I heard, he was up on charges for manslaughter. Googie.

[left, unsigned, by User:69.210.64.99 07:05, 23 August 2005 (UTC)]

"Jonah," evidence suggests that _you_ were/are the one writing the "intolerably untrue things about Rose." The above unsigned manslaughter comment follows that pattern. Evidence also suggests that it was _you_ who created a username, "Steve espinola," that bears a strangely identical nature to my birthname. I can make a pretty good circumstantial-evidence case for this based on similarities in the behavior, comments, claims, language styles, and login times of the various user names, including your current one. But it is probably unnecessary: I'd be amazed if you are fooling anyone, even given comments you've left on this page under two usernames.

The issues you've brought up on Rose's work may deserve intelligent debate, but that is not what you are offering in your statements on the subject in the Biff Rose entry. They are POV thinly disguised as fact. From my understanding of Wikipedia, this is not really the correct forum to get into original critical discussion on what Biff "really means" in his lyrics. ("Is he ironic or does he mean it?" for example.) That is why your comments on the issue keep getting revised or deleted. Again, you should be bringing this whole topic up on the Biff discussion page, not on Flcelloguy's page. I'm even sorry to be debating you on this page.

You are simply finding more subtle ways of making trouble: For example, you just removed my accurate attribution of your unsigned comments left on this page when you were logged in as user "Jonah Ayers." I just put it back. Here's the proof that they were your comments: [[4]]

Here's where I moved them to the "Biff Rose Protection" section of this page and accurately attributed them to you:[[5]]

And here's proof that you removed that attribution: [[6]]

You are still making a lot of work for people who have better things to do. "Jonah Ayers," if it were up to me you would be blocked from Wikipedia. Sojambi Pinola 03:15, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

You will notice that the section which follows, "Cleanup protection etc.." (which I have moved up from further down Flcelloguy's page), addresses the same topic we are discussing here. The writing is suspiciously similar to that of several of the blocked sockpuppets involved in this case. it was left, unsigned, by 216.175.113.48 18:54, 28 August 2005 (UTC)]

signed, Sojambi Pinola 05:15, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Cleanup protection etc..

You wisely protected the Biff Rose entry. There still seems to be massive dissent. One of the people who asked you to have a look at it has been frozen by willmcw, though I'm not sure that was warranted, he is steve espinola. most importantly though, Biff Rose on his website is promoting his friends to hack into the computers of anyone who may have a different view of his past and present than him. Apparently he is close with two hackers, and has enlisted them to find the isp #'s of all who aren't his sock puppets. This works against the nature of wikipedia. It seems Rose has been posting about himself through the person identified as Sojambi Pinola. Steve espinola brought this up before he was frozen and not allowed to be a part of wikipedia by will mcw- this seems self serving because will works with Sojambi Pinola. I'm not pleading Steve's case. He's unpopular enough that doing so would bring me into the crossharis, so to speak. I use wikipedia as a reference, everday. It does seem terrible that people can write whatever they feel like on a talk page then go ahead and ban you for the sentmients they layered into the page afterwards. The Biff Rose issue seems to be a petri dish for the more mercurial aspects that can fester here. Keep an eye on Biff Rose postings. Keep it protected. Really. KEEP THAT PAGE PROTECTED. There has been no real work on the post, just a hodge podge of one sided issues. They let the last line stay in, after having refused other examples or Rose's lyrics- which explain a lot in whatever context they've been used in. if you would like to email me for further discussion, you can email me at scurvyhide@hotmail.com

[left, unsigned, by 216.175.113.48 18:54, 28 August 2005 (UTC)]

website in question

the folllowing is a quote from Rose on his website messageboard the last line of the response is particularly of note.

"Hurricanes and Mother Russia

Name: b.

Date Posted: Aug 27, 05 - 10:38 PM

Message: The World Wide Get Even Theatre presents..."It's Mother Rusiia"

Jodry-Potthoff wrote: Yo Biff, are you back in NOLA? Are you safe? This ***** Katrina is lookin for you!!! Watch yer ass or yer feet. She carries a lot of water. It’s still dry here in Chi.

Later

K

response:

Dear King Karl...I'm in Kansas City eating a cow a day...switching to horses on Monday, pigs on Tuesday and ten golden chickens on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday...and I am terrified about what Mother Russia is doing to get even with me for what would appear a Pyrrhic victory last year...IVAN her consort heaeded for our coast....La Belle Louisiane....and now her daughter Katrina....ah..those Russkies...last year I was left as a million white people evacuated the city and only I with half a million negroes, five hundred thousand tons of fried chicken and half a million barrels of beer was left to weather the storm...I prayed a mighty wind and blew Mother Rusiia's consort, Ivan ( she was playing hard to get)...blew the ******* as in Biff Bam Thak ye ma'am gwine send you packin' back to aLLAH! bam...it worked...then i worked ssiduously to get rid of Molly and all my european sounds into the heartland as once before Napoleon and Hitler...only to prepare the way for rap and hip hop...but she battled back after devouring Molly...and now send Katrina and I have to come up with some song quick....and I'm not even home...and I may not even HAVE a home to go back to... has Susan got those hackers to do a job on the evil ones? ...check out wikipedia....the discussion group...."

[left, unsigned, by 216.175.113.48 18:57, 28 August 2005 (UTC)]

regarding vandalism 'investigation'

hello.

I appreciate you looking into things, but I think you've missed a bit of the details.

This user (User: Canadia) has been *incessant*. There has only been a single instance of my apparent inadvertent deletion of anti-American content from the Offensive terms per nationality (posted by him when claiming I am the vandal).

His deletion of any anti-Canadian content spreads FAR beyond that single article.

I have attempted normal means of mediation (posted in Talk, tried to re-word any Canadian entries as low-key and minimized offensiveness as possible, posted template warnings about content deletion, etc.)

He proceeded to edit my posting on the Talk page to include "I gay" (sic)

His edit comments are impressively offensive to me...please see the edit history for Offensive terms per nationality.

So, I ask, please reconsider.

I have left a note on his Talk page as requested. boinger 19:06, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

"silly page"

No, it didn't show up on newpages.

The reason I haven't deleted it yet is precisely so that people can check the article creation and move time and see for themselves (if they wish) that it doesn't appear on newpages. I'll delete it in a few days.

So far there hasn't been much reaction. I wonder if it's been reported as a bug... if not it should be. -- Curps 22:33, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

That's a good idea. I posted to WP:AN as you suggested. -- Curps 22:44, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Func's RfA :)

Flcelloguy, thank you for diligently waiting for your RfA to end before supporting mine...smart move! ;-)

Your supporting vote was very much appreciated, thank you! :)

Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.

Func( t, c, e,  ) 18:48, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

RE:Stony Brook University

Ahh, well, that's no problem, as long as the vandals are gone. =) By the way, if you get his name, I can start a mob to lynch him =) joking of course (or am I?). Regards and happy editing! Sasquatch讲看 20:44, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

Eric mandat

I'm probably missing some subtlety here, but why reinstate this redirect? The Wikipedia system handles that kind of typographical mistake (e.g. if I type "Samuel johnson" in the search box, clicking Go takes me automatically to Samuel Johnson). So what's the need for an Eric mandat page? Tearlach 02:26, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Requesting assistance in handling disruptive behavior.

I would greatly appreciate if you look into the mess created in the article Rohingya. This is quite an interesting issue; a few months ago, I removed the copyvio and then organized the article into sections and cleaned up the links. For some reason, several anon editors in the block 212.138.47.* seem to take offence at my "touching" "their" article, and started vandalizing my user/talk pages. Some of these vandals were blocked by other admins.

Last week, these vandals created several sockpuppet accounts, including . You can see from the account name what its purpose was. The user vandalized my user/talk pages besides leaving abusive comments. The user was blocked immediately.

Yesterday and today, there has been a parade of sockpuppets all directed at either launching personal attacks, or avoiding 3RR. You can find several incoherent rants in Talk:Rohingya, my talk (User talk:Ragib and Mel's talk User talk:Mel Etitis. The language constructs and the irrational attitude ("how-dare-I-touch-their-article-being-a-Bengali" etc) points out a single user behind all these.

I find the following accounts as sockpuppets of the same vandal from the ip block 212.138.47.*

I urge everyone to take a look at the page history, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rohingya&curid=1918632&action=history . This is not even a dispute over content! I have not added or deleted any content other than the initial copyvio. I simply organized the article with sections, and cleaned up the external links. One of the links point to a blog, which the vandals ferociously object to as being termed a blog. I've gotten literally tired of the abuse these vandals launched on me. The level of racial and personal abuse is quite hard to take. Since it would be a conflict of interest in my part to take actions against these vandals, I would request you to look into this issue and decide.

Thanks a lot. --Ragib 13:19, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Hey Man

I was wondering if you could assist in a potentially anger filled situation, who's heart is at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Watch/schoolwatch. I'll ask some others too since your schedule looks tough. Karmafist 03:44, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Hi, when you update DYK please archive the last template and remove the suggestions that are on the current template. --nixie 00:14, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

I normally cut the old template out and stick it in the archive, then assemble the new one- killing two birds with one stone :) --nixie 00:26, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Sylvia (ballet)

I politely ask that you reconsider your position regarding the featured article candidacy of Sylvia (ballet). Your only objection to the article's promotion was the lack of information on the 2004 Morris production, a section that was significantly beefed up. If you have any other suggestions to make, please do so, otherwise, kindly remove your objection. Thank you. -- Rmrfstar 22:02, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the response! I have dealt with each of your objections to Sylvia and the changes await your comment. -- Rmrfstar 00:01, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your support of Sylvia, (as the main contributor to the article). -- Rmrfstar 21:30, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Re:RFA

No problem. Congratulations! Acetic Acid 23:16, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations!! : ) --MPerel ^{( talk | contrib)} 07:22, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

RajanR

It wouldn't hurt to leave a real reply address while emailing, you know? email@email.com doesn't count. Rajan Rishayakaran 12:47, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Vesa Ahonen -- Vfd vs. speedy delete

Hi Flcelloguy, thanks for the clear edit summary when you reverted my addition of the speedy delete tag on the Vesa Ahonen entry. I wasn't sure what the protocol was, and now I have learned. The type of edit summary you wrote is making it a lot easier for me to find my way around! Mamawrites 17:38, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

What happens when two admins block

The shortest one wins. (Sigh.) No problems with crossing the streams or anything though. :-) FreplySpang (talk) 23:53, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

See my talk page

User talk:Redwolf24. P.S. ARCHIVE THIS! NOW! Redwolf24 00:25, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Join. Asap! please... Redwolf24 00:34, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Protection

Hi. A while back you "temporarily" protected Daniel Pipes to stop edit warring - this was back on the 8th. I came across it whilst fixing ISBN links (and cleaning out ASINs), but since it's locked I can't tidy up the page (I only need to make a couple of small changes to the refs section). Given it's been two weeks since you protected it, could you consider unprotecting it? Thanks. Shimgray 18:35, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks muchly. I've fixed what I was after, in case you feel the need to reprotect it. Shimgray 19:49, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Open proxies

Hi, Flcelloguy. I don't know much about them either, but there are databases of these things on the web. I've been following the IP addresses of the Ted Kennedy vandal and of User:Cyrius's stalker. I pop the IPs into these database/black list things, they are either have them listed or they don't. Cheers, Func( t, c, @, ) 20:51, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks for that. I'm hoping since I'm advertising in my Navbox that I'm open to accepting them that I'll get more. Maybe not. But thanks nonetheless. PS your sig's been fixed. -- Francs2000 | Talk File:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg 21:36, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Celebration!

File:Champagne.jpg

Champagne is often drunk as part of a celebration

Please join me in celebrating my 1000th edit at Wikipedia, the most important online information resource! Hamster Sandwich 21:46, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Working on a proposal

Hey, thanks for your offer to answer my newbie questions. I actually have one... would you mind taking a peek at my ideas for a new link on the navigation page and sharing your thoughts? I know that I could be bold and just create the Wikipedia:Who writes Wikipedia page, and put up a proposal and ask for comments at the Village Pump, but I guess I want to move a little more slowly with such a major proposal. Mamawrites 03:03, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

RfA

I gotta say, I'm happy to find out that someone would consider nominating me for RfA. If you feel confident in this, go ahead, I'd be extremely appreciative of such a gesture. Like you said, that rollback button could come in handy in combating those pesky vandals, so it wouldn't be going to waste or anything :). Well, once again, you have my thanks. By the way, the counter is up to 66 now - my user page is somewhat of a vandal magnate :P. Happy editing! Nufy8 02:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks :). Nufy8 00:58, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

History of South Carolina

Hello. History of South Carolina is on Featured Article Candidates for a third time due to recent controversy. Because you commented on one of its past nominations, you may be interested in commenting this time at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/History of South Carolina. Toothpaste 19:36, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

I think I fixed the lead. Not sure. Is it fixed? Toothpaste 01:03, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome

Appreciate the bootcamp link. Hobbes000 16:51, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

HappyCamper's RFA - Thanks for your support! :-)

Hi Flcelloguy! Thanks for your support on my recent RFA! I'm now an administrator, and indeed, I'm a happy camper right now too! :D -- If you ever need an extra helping hand, let me know, and I'll do my best to help out. Thanks again for your support, and I'll see you around the Wiki! --HappyCamper 02:13, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

As an aside, I must ask: Have you played Mendelssohn's cello concerto in B minor? --HappyCamper 02:13, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

IPs, DNSs and ISPs, oh my!

Hiyas Flcelloguy. I've seen your comments regarding 3RR violations on the Winter Soldier Investigation article, located here. You have asked, "As I asked TDC, is there a way to find out if the two IPs are linked?" In a word, no. There are tools you can use to determine what Internet Service Providers host those particular proxy IPs, and you can "trace" the usage of those IPs back to a general geographic area (for example, Northern California) and major hub city. That would, in the case of major ISPs like Earthlink (aka Slipnet, aka Mindspring, ...) narrow the number down to a few million internet users. If you desire any more detailed information, you'd need to first obtain a subpoena from a court of law, and then work directly with the ISP to narrow it down further. There is a convenient set of free tools located here if you want to mess around with it.

In specific regard to TDCs complaint, I can tell you this: TDC is correct when he claims the IPs 165.274.xxx.xxx and 209.86.xxx.xxx (my current one) are hosted by Earthlink, and their usage originates through Dial-Up nodes routed through the "Bay Area" in California. He also knows there are several of us that edit on Wikipedia through the same networked computers, since we've been through this same song and dance at least a half-dozen times before. TDC is incorrect when he cites that as proof that all anon edits must be from the same user. TDC is incorrect when he claims it must also be the same user vandalizing his user page while logged into AOL IPs, or IPs originating from Brooklyn, NY and Virginia. Earlier today, the edits and reverts by 165 & 209 IPs were not by the same editor. I hope that clears things up. You could speak by phone with two or more editors here that have been in revert wars with TDC on various articles if that would be proof to you, but TDC could just wave it off as a bunch of my work mates backing me up.

I also have a question for you. It appears Admin Geni has reverted the above mentioned article prior to Page Protecting it. I was under the impression that Admins were not supposed to select preferred article versions before protecting them. As an Admin yourself, can you clarify that for me? Geni claims to have reverted to a revision by Ed Poor because it was the "last edit by someone not apprently involved in the current edit war." On the contrary, Ed Poor is quite involved, and even making his own reverts [7], since this "edit war" was started by TDC exactly 4 weeks ago. The article was basically dormant for months prior to that. After seeing Admin Geni's comments on the sister-article discussion page here, and after selecting preferred versions to protect, I have to suspect a less than neutral stance by Geni. Cheers, 209.86.3.213 03:19, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Signpost

Just confirming that you want to do an article on Features and admins. Leave a note on my talk page to confirm. Deadline is Sunday, August 28, 8 p.m. EDT (Midnight UTC). ral315 23:06, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Music

Nope, not a cellist, but a violinist. I've played a variety of pieces, I guess the most notable one is Mendelssohn's concerto in E minor for violin. Have you heard of it before? I really like Bach too. I assume you are a pretty accomplished musician if the next piece you might work on is the B minor one. Very beautiful piece I think. If you're ever interested in writing a music-related article, let me know! --HappyCamper 23:34, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

unblock and reblock, a wop bam boom

If you unblock the 15 min block I think it unblocks all the blocks, so you need to reblock. Thanks! FreplySpang (talk) 00:57, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

You have to go to Special:Ipblocklist and remove the shorter block first. FreplySpang (talk) 01:06, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

Why did you block RightWingZionistNut?

Why did you block User:RightWingZionistNut? You claim that he impersonated User:Guy Montag but where is the evidence? That he refers people to Guy Montag's userpage as an example of what a right wing zionist nut looks like? That's not really impersonation, is it?

Also, why did you revert and then protect the page King David Hotel bombing? It is not vandalism to call the Irgun terrorists. Look at the categories for that article. Terrorist acts are carried out by terrorists. Engaging in revert wars and then protecting a page violates Wikipedia:Protection policy. If anyone is engaged in vandalism it looks like you and Guy Montag and not the guy who just uses the name "RightWingZionistNut".

You also left this contradictory semi-literate message on ZionistRightWingNut's Discussion page: "You have been blocked indefinitely for impersonating a user and for edit warring and vandalism. Thank you. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 18:01, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

You have been temporarily blocked from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires."

I suggest you work on your logic and communication skills. --FlSingleLoser 18:41, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Flcello, you do understand that this guy is a sockpuppet of RWZN (who is a sockpuppet himself) and he made this particular username to insult you, as he in the most retarded manner tried to insult me. Keep banning him.

Guy Montag 20:12, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Clean up requet

Would you please help me re-organize the Wikipedia:Requests for mediation page along the lines of Wikipedia:Cleanup Taskforce? At least point me in the right direction and offer some formatting tips? Uncle Ed 01:13, August 28, 2005 (UTC)

Do it.

Thanks a lot. ral315 00:01, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

To be perfectly honest, it's not done because I took a 6 1/2 hour nap by accident. If I don't it done in the next few hours, I'll get it done tomorrow afternoon. ral315 07:55, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

re:my 3rr block

[8]

OK

Sounds like a good set of guidelines. Andre (talk) 00:22, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Mediation proposal

A lot has been keeping me from mediating lately as it is as you undoubtedly know a time-consuming process. I would like to add one question to your proposal. What if one or both of the parties don't feel comfortable with the mediator assigned to the case? - Mgm|^(talk) 07:53, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Hypnotize

Hi Flcelloguy, it's been about a week since you locked Hypnotize. Given the consensus of opinion at Talk:Hypnotize and the fact that the album is being released soon, would it be possible to open it back up? User:Mike Garcia hasn't weighed in the discussion and he's blocked right now for vandalism. 66.36.130.216 16:14, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! 66.36.130.216 22:01, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Mediation

No probs with the banner. This is wiki (copyrights not allowed! ;) ). I read your proposed format and I have some suggestions. 1) Have a subject line like we do for emails. 2) instead of separating the two parties disputes by headings (ie. rows), make it a table and have it placed side by side so that people can compare both parties' statements. PS thanks for the strong support for my RFB. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:07, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar

Thanks for the barnstar! I'll put it on my userpage. Golbez is one user I know who deserves this barnstar as well, he is faster at reverting the vandalism than I am. Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:13, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Is it really a good idea to update DYK just an hour and 40 minutes before the change-over to Featured Picture? Shouldn't we wait?--Pharos 22:23, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

OK, I suppose this set can just spend the weekend in wiki-hibernation and return on Monday; we'll just have to remember not to update it immediately after it comes back.--Pharos 22:39, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

66.36.130.216

Hello, Flcelloguy. I believe 66.36.130.216 (who posted at your talk page earlier) is probably the famous anonymous vandal (66.36.148.190/66.36.133.229) on the Hypnotize article who keeps removing information and is fond of claiming that some information is incorrect; it's not. -- Mike Garcia | talk 22:51, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Astrolox

I've unblocked him per WP:FAITH. See WP:AN for details. Yours, Radiant_>|< 14:13, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

I am

Sam Spade, please stop edit warring on I am. Also, please be reminded of the WP:3RR rule. Thanks! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 15:29, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Don't leave notes like this on my talk page in the future. If you have a comment, make sure it is informed and respectful. I am not in danger of violating WP:3RR, as a moments review of I am demonstrates. It would appear you have been a contributor since 14 May 2005. I feel a 3 month contributor making statements in such a manner on my page is either a) not a three month contributer, or b) arrogant to an extreme. Sam Spade 15:39, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Sam Spade, I am simply reminding you that edit warring is highly discouraged in Wikipedia. I'm sorry if I offended you; I understand that you have not violated WP:3RR yet, but I was simply reminding you of the policy designed to prevent edit warring. Also, let me remind you of the WP:NPA policy; I do not appreciate being called arrogant. My time here on Wikipedia is irrelevant to the discussion. Thank you. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 15:43, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

I sternly disagree. [9] Sam Spade 15:47, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

---

Thanks for the note Flcelloguy, but unfortunately you're a bit off the mark. No one is edit warring except Sam Spade, who is flouting the consensus of the other participants in the discussion, two admins; Exploding Boy and myself, and being a bit testy as you can see above. Further discussion can be found here: User_talk:Sam_Spade#Redirect_of_I_am. Sam's "evidence" for his insistance on repeated reverting is uncompelling. The stats are that almost the only people landing on this redirect are EB, SS, and myself. This article redirect is little used, adds nothing to wikipedia, and become a constant source of contention for Sam, it should be deleted. The consensus is that I am should not redirect to God, so I'm undoing Sam's revert once again and I'm adding the vfd template. FeloniousMonk 15:45, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

With regards to the note you left on my talk page, I agree that Sam's conduct is out of line and his comments to you were unjustified. The I am redirect could probably be nominated for deletion. -- Curps 16:31, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

PS, just a suggestion: to document things, you should provide links to actual diffs, not just links to the page. That way, the relevant post can be found even weeks of months later. For instance, instead of a link to [[User talk:Flcelloguy]], provide links to [10] [11] etc. -- Curps 16:36, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

If you wish to file an RfC, you could, but this one incident alone might not be sufficient. If there were other incidents, this one could be added to a global RfC. I'd suggest you provide the documentation links (diffs) as suggested above on the Wikipedia:Mediation Committee page and let folks see and judge for themselves. Some people might even consider Sam's opposition as a point in your favor. -- Curps 16:42, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

I am has now been listed on Wikipedia:Redirects for deletion. -- Curps 19:57, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

[12]. Cheers, Sam Spade 00:51, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Nichalp

You pinged me? I'm on for a short while. Let me know what's the prob. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:44, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

From the history of the article here, Sam Spade is not violating the 3RR. According to my timestamps (I'm at +5:30 UTC); Sam reverted at 14:38 on Sep 2; and 19:21 and 20:54 on Sep 3. The time difference between 19:21 and 20:54 is 1:33 mins. Since 3RR is for a 24 hr period, Sam can legally revert once more for the time period between 20:54 (sep 3) and 20:54 (sep 4). However I won't condone what Sam has done. Instead of politely telling Fcelloguy that he has erred, he has chosen to reply in a rather defensive and boorish tone. I also do believe that Flcelloguy told Sam about 3RR in good faith, so this is what I suggest:

Flcello: Please accept that Sam is right.

Sam please do not reply to any user so rudely in the future.

=Nichalp «Talk»= 18:20, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

I know I mixed up the time stamps above, but basically SS has one legal revert left. =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:27, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

No probs, I don't mind helping. But you should warn the person before he's about to violate a 3RR, it may be irritating for some to be warned when it does not apply. IMO I don't think an RFC is needed. =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:30, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

I apologise for being angry. I take warnings from admins very seriously, and was shocked, embaressed, and dismayed to find one on my talk page. I have been wrongfully blocked for 3r violations twice now (from people confusing timestamps, I assume) and with the 2 others involved here being a admins w a LONG history (as in a year or more) of persecuting me, I was in a particularly ill humor for a policy reminder from a (assumably well meaning) new user. I again apologise for snapping at you. Sam Spade 21:08, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Recent block

Hmm...I'm wondering if it is necessary to reduce the block to only 15 minutes at the moment. It seems that the IP is in the range of 172.128.0.0 - 172.211.255.255 which is used by AOL. What do you think? --HappyCamper 18:59, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Yup :-) And thanks for leaving the message on the IP. --HappyCamper 19:03, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Message Deletion

--User Talk: Felix Frederick Bruyns Flcelloguy, did you get a message from me, and if so, did you delete it? If you did delete it, you were within your rights, but if you did not then I suspect a certain party of trying to prevent the truth from being told regarding a conflict I'm having. Thank you very much.

The Missing Message

--User Talk: Felix Frederick Bruyns I could almost (though not quite) swear that I accurately sent a rather long message to you that should be just above my writing about message deletion. But rather than accuse a certain third party (you know the man I mean) of deleting it, I will restate it in abbreviated terms. I came to this site over a year ago, aged 19. I didn't know about the "POV" rule, but actually all I did was lessen a libertarian, pro-pornography POV in several articles. Several fervent anti-censorship users insulted me, and accused me of being a "vandal" and both Moriori and Raul654 called me a "troll" and Moriori and to a lesser extent Raul654 slandered me by accusing me of stealing articles or "copyvio", as Moriori called it, which couldn't be further from the truth. Moriori even said I stole my article on Turkey Stearnes from the African American Registry, which is an obvious lie since the two articles don't resemble each other and the AAR wasn't even one of my research sources on Stearnes. Angry words were exchanged between me and Moriori, and I left the site in disgust. Shortly after I suffered a series of illnesses and only returned to the Internet a couple of months ago and I want to clear up the matter and end the quarrels. If ever you can prove that you are worthy of being an arbitrator, make peace between Moriori and his allies and me and I will consider you the greatest diplomat that ever lived. Thank you very much.

Vandalism

This seems a little out of character, but who am I to deny what it says? At any rate, please do not vandalize pages, especially such highly visible ones, as it may jeapordize your position as admin and (potentially) mediator. I've left a comment on your nomination to this effect. Please leave any replies on my talk page, or let me know about them there, as I'm not likely to be reading the MC noms. -Matthew Cieplak ^{(talk) (edits)} 21:08, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Glad that's been resolved. -Matthew Cieplak ^{(talk) (edits)} 21:21, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Copied from Matthewcieplak's talk page. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 21:22, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, there's an explanation. As a result of being tired (having done RC patrol all day), I saw an anon IP address and the vandalism, and immediately clicked revert. You'll see that I immediately saw my mistake, and reverted myself back [13] within 5 seconds. I then proceeded to block the offender for 24 hours [14]. Thanks for your diligence! If there are any questions, let me know. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 21:16, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

I was going to go strike my comment on your mediator nomination, but it seems to never have been there at all. Perhaps I just hit preview. At any rate, now I don't have to correct it (I may even offer support). Good luck. -Matthew Cieplak ^{(talk) (edits)} 21:25, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Confusion About "The Missing Message"

--User Talk: Felix Frederick Bruyns Could you send me a message at my user talk so that I know that all of this confusion has been cleared up. Could you also do a bit of mediation? Thank you very much.

Don't Believe Moriori

--User Talk: Felix Frederick Bruyns Whatever you do, don't believe ANYTHING that Moriori tells you. He is in a different time zone than I am and I would have to stay up all night to continue responding to his lies. I will warn you that he can be very persuasively dishonest, as I found out in 2004. What he wrote about me on the administration board is simply false and, of course, very insulting as well, though I can't claim that I have never insulted him. I have, however, always been honest, and he has been consistently dishonest. For that matter, if Raul654 or any others of the anti-censorship (and anti-Felix Frederick Bruyns) group tell you anything about me, don't believe them either. Whatever our mutual insults and disagreements, there is one basic difference between me and them. They lie. I don't. Above all, don't believe a word that Moriori has to say, because he would say anything that came into his mind to injure my reputation. Thank you very much.

Bureaucratship

Hi, Flcelloguy. Thank you so much for your support and kind words on my bureaucratship nomination. Unfortunately, it didn't pass, but I intend to run again soon. If you'd like to be informed next time around, please let me know on my talk page. Thanks again! Andre (talk) 05:24, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

My Grievances Against Moriori: The Whole Story

--User Talk: Felix Frederick Bruyns I have decided that I must tell the entire story about what Moriori has done to me. It is rather long and I apologize for that, but it cannot be helped. The problems began in mid-2004, slightly over a year ago. I was 19 years old, very ignorant about the technical aspects of Internet use and I knew nothing about Wikipedia policy. I stumbled across your free encyclopedia, however, and I decided that, having done intensive research on Negro League baseball, I would write a few articles in Wikipedia. I saw that registration was optional, and so I did not see any reason to bother with it. I was, I believe, assigned a number with colons in it. I wrote several articles on Negro Leaguers (which, in essentials, remain on Wikipedia today) and I did not take credit for them even though I didn't know of the Wikipedia policy against taking such credit, since I thought that they should be fully public domain and that the work was its own reward. My mother, however, said that my articles were of high quality and that I should in some way take credit for them. Not knowing of the policy against this, I simply typed "Author: Felix F. Bruyns" at the bottom of each article. That was when some confusion began. Some people believed that I was not "Felix F. Bruyns" and that I might have stolen the articles from someone by that name. Then my father suggested that I register under my own name (which is Felix F. Bruyns) to clarify the matter. I did so, but it was at about this time that the situation became ugly. I looked up some entertainers, among them Kylie Minogue, Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Drew Barrymore and Cary Grant. I knew nothing about the "point of view" policy at the time, but in retrospect they contained a libertarian and pro-pornography point of view. I am more conservative now than I was then, but even then I was shocked by the disrespectful and unprofessional nature of some of the articles. So, having the understanding that anyone was allowed to edit anyone else's work, I removed a few sentences from these articles and changed a few others. That was when the wrath of every anti-censorship Wikipedian seemed to descend on me. I was accused of "vandalism", called a "troll", told by Raul654 that he "political correctness is something I despise" (obvious POV motivation) and it was also Raul654 who accused me of "PC (political correctness) pushing". But another of my attackers stood out even more. Both Moriori and Raul654 called me a "troll" and Raul654 claimed that my articles on the Negro Leaguers were "far from original", but as bad as all of this was Moriori went a step further. He accused me of "copyvio" and demanded that I remove all of my articles from the site. This could have been an honest mistake because of the "Author: Felix F. Bruyns" confusion, but I came across one item that proved that Moriori was premeditated in his falsehoods. He specifically claimed that I had copied my article on Turkey Stearnes from the African American Registry. This was so far from the truth that it had to be a deliberate lie. The African American Registry's "born on this day" article on Turkey Stearnes doesn't even closely resemble mine, and the site was not even one of my sources of research on Stearnes. The timing of these accusations definitely suggests that Moriori's motives were political, but, of course, I cannot prove his motives. I presume that Moriori was fully familiar with the "keep your cool" policy, since he seemed far more experienced in Wikipedia than I was, but I was not. He and I exchanged a series of angry user talks. To be honest, we BOTH lost our tempers. He called me a "troll", accused me of vandalism, "copyvio" and demanded that I remove all of my articles from Wikipedia. In turn, irate over the obvious slander, I called him "a plague spot on Wikipedia" and demanded that he remove all of his articles from the site. I also made justified legal threats against him, unaware of the "no legal threats" Wikipedia policy. Although two or three users showed some sympathy for me, many more accused me of vandalism or otherwise sided with Moriori. I was so upset that I visited the New Zealand police website, but unfortunately, unlike some national police sites, they had no non-emergency e-mail. The last straw was when someone hijacked both my "Felix F. Bruyns" user page and a message board, claiming to be me and typing things like "You may think of me as a vandal, but I like to think of myself more as a dictator" and other such arrogant nonsense that I had nothing to do with whatsoever. I had no idea of how to deal with this sort of treatment, so I finally decided to leave the site in utter humiliation. A few months later I suffered a series of moderate illnesses (tonsilitis, facial swelling of unknown cause, etc...) and I was not on the Internet again until a couple of months ago. One of the first things that I did was to check if the slanderous references to me were still on the web, which they were. I decided that I would resume some editing and I re-registered with Wikipedia. Of course, since over a year had passed, I had long forgotten my old password so I registered under my full name "Felix Frederick Bruyns" with a new password. I looked up the article on Kylie Minogue, but at some point I became emotionally repulsed by its content (which had actually gotten worse) and that, combined with my old anger over the slanderous references to me in the archives (which I didn't know how to edit at that time), led me to write two imprudently angry (but neither illegal nor profane) messages, both of which were mostly the result of my ignorance about the archives and so forth. In these messages I castigated Wikipedia as a whole, and for this I apologize. It was wrong of me to overgeneralize based on a few articles or the abuse of a few users. If I have offended any of the administrators or other senior users of Wikipedia I am sincerely sorry. At the same time I think that you can understand, given my ignorance of nearly all Wikipedia policy and the treatment that I had received, why I felt very angry. I moderated my tone as I learned more about Wikipedia, but in some of my general complaints and requests I mentioned Moriori and what he had done to me in 2004. Well, he responded by lying about me (he claimed that I had accused him of spreading a virus, which is not true). He has twice quoted me out of context in our renewed online struggle, and of course we have exchanged insults. Finally, a message that I left on this very noticeboard was deleted, and I have every reason to believe that Moriori deleted it. To be fair, when I wrote the message I had forgotten something that I said in 2004, and so I accused him of misquoting me rather than quoting me out of context. I will copy this message, however, so that I can replace it if he deletes it. I am now "keeping my cool". I am not demanding anything from administrators or more experienced Wikipedians. I am making a humble request-in fact-I am pleading that someone will understand my side of the story and the wrongs that Moriori has committed against me. No matter what Moriori tells you or anyone else, every word of this post is the truth, so help me God. Will someone please help me? Thank you very much.

I am

I trust the issue is amicably resolved? =Nichalp «Talk»= 07:01, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Images

• I believe those images are copyrighted as per the disclaimer here; despite the LoC having info in PD.
• The time period is too short for the copyrights to expire.
• This google search turns up with some promising sites. Hopefully a disclaimer isn't present somewhere.
• If his image is available on an album/book/magazine cover, you can scan it & u'load under "fair use". This image can only be used on the artist's name and the article on the album /magazine/book.
• Jimbo has decreed that "used with permission" is no longer acceptable, so all such images will be deleted.

I hope I was of some use. I'll be logging off for now, will login 2 hrs l8r. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:23, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Minor Confusion

--User Talk: Felix Frederick Bruyns I copied that long complaint about Moriori from the administrative board (because it was so long and it was late at night where I lived, and also because I wanted to send it to as many concerned Wikipedia users as possible quickly before Moriori could delete it). Therefore one sentence may seem irrelevant to you, since it refers to the administrative board specifically. I apologize for the mix-up. Thank you very much. Also, mediation is very much needed. Thanks again.

Knock knock

You there? If not don't worry. =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:55, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Ok I got a job for you. Maybe you'd like to use your new powers. I've reverted thrice on the Mumbai page. The IP who has reverted is rolling back to a version which contain images that are unverified. (We can't have this for a FA). I've posted a couple of messages on his talk, but no response. Since I'm off to sleep, would you handle it from here on? Just warn him once before blocking him if he reverts again. =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:04, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:08, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

Hi Flcelloguy

Hi Flcelloguy!

I'm very surprised by the speed of your answer to my post. Are you sure you are not a bot?

A cousin of J.I. Siles 21:32, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

---

Wikipedia:RC patrol was a red link two minutes ago. I will read RC patrol some time because I have to go.

I thought you went to Special:Recentchanges and saw my post about List of dignitaries at the funeral of Pope John Paul II.

Regards
A cousin of J.I. Siles 21:46, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Esperanza

Welcome to Esperanza, but you see the 40 times where I say Alphabatize yourself? ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 21:37, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm not new.

Hi, but you didn't need to give me a welcome notice. I have been on the Wiki as WikiFan04, with about 800 edits to date and 19 months of experience under my belt. I'm not new! Sorry for the misunderstanding. --WikiFanatic^{Talk 17:13, 4 Sep 2005 (CDT)}

Esperenza

I saw the message you left on Redwolf's page. Would you be willing to help me draft something up then? It seems as though lots of contributors are quite busy with other stuff at the moment. I agree, the recent surge of WikiVacations is somewhat a cause for concern. --HappyCamper 23:54, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Great! Now, for starters, we need two things: A framework, and plenty of ideas. I think what we need now is a good set of ideas of what we think should be part of Esperenza. We had that started but I don't think we have nearly sufficient material to put together something concrete. What do you think? --HappyCamper 23:59, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Alright, we'll continue the discussion on the Esperenza page then. Goodnight! --HappyCamper 00:16, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Hypnotize (also Mezmerize and System of a Down)

Hello Flcelloguy! I appreciate you having unlocked Hypnotize after the last edit war and I am trying not to re-start one despite my objections to the edits. Can you check it to see if I'm being unreasonable? Aren't Wikipedia rules being broken here (Wikipedia:No_original_research, Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Cite_sources)? User:Mike Garcia insists that I'm vandalizing despite numerous users telling him at Talk:Hypnotize that I'm not. Admin User:Rhobite has already warned Mike about these edits recently but he seems to be inactive as of late. 66.36.152.26 03:43, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help with User:Mike Garcia. Pasboudin 16:40, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the midnight vigil. I'd suggest you archive the page. Lost of unnecessary stuff is getting loaded each time. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:38, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Mind-Benders

Any chance of putting the current round of Wikipedia Mind-Benders to bed? There is still one question unanswered but I don't think anyone's made any additions for a while now. The code was fun btw. --Spondoolicks 15:28, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

User:Mike Garcia ban evasion

Just thought I would let you know User:Mike Garcia is evading your 24-hour block with one of his famous sock-puppets, AOL IP User:205.188.116.10, at System of a Down. I've already reported it to the incident board. Thanks for your help. Pasboudin 23:26, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

I figured as much. Thanks though. :) Pasboudin 23:36, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Kevin baas

I took a look and added my two cents. I don't think you were wrong to block btw, just there are probably better things we can do at this point on to reach a happy ending. Regards! Sasquatch讲看 23:37, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Updated DYK query

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Young People's Concerts, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

==Be Forewarned== As a step in making peace with Moriori, I am deleting all of my references to him from both my user talk page and YOURS. You're not being vandalized, so don't be alarmed. Felix Frederick Bruyns 01:30, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Unremitting...

9/11_Bush_Administration_complicity_theory was recently unprotected, and blanked again by Carbonite:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=9/11_Bush_Administration_complicity_theory&action=history

What action would you suggest? Kevin Baas^{talk: new} 01:31, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

Please note that the blanking was actually re-directing. All page history is intact. Carbonite | Talk 02:42, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Ofcourse all page-history is intact. That's what happens when you blank a page. And sure, you put one line on it, whetehr it was "hello world" or "#redirect ..." it certainly was not a page move and didnt' really redirect to anything except the page that got you there in the first place, which is of even less value than "hello world". Please note, "9/11 conspiracy theories" is the referring page. Blanking would have been less obstructive. Kevin Baas^{talk: new} 02:47, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

I was making it clear that the page was not "deleted" as you claimed several times. A deletion would have made all history unavailable to any user except for admins. As for the double-redirect, it was fixed a while ago. No articles link to 9/11_Bush_Administration_complicity_theory. See Special:Whatlinkshere/9/11_Bush_Administration_complicity_theory. The only way a user will end up there is if they type it into the search box. Carbonite | Talk 03:59, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Un-Block condition

you said: "provided that you do not edit any of the relevant pages" would it therefore be a problem if i continued to try to get carbonite/jayjg/raul to discuss this at Talk:9/11_Bush_Administration_complicity_theory, as I have been trying to do for some time now? Kevin Baas^{talk: new} 02:13, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

Also 9/11 conspiracy theories, which I have not recently edited, but was indirectly involved via linkage, is that included? specifically, i would like to take part in a discussion there.

Also, regarding that comment, I'm assuming it only applies for 24 hours, as the ban did, and if not, i would prefer going with my original predisposition, and exercise my right to decline the leniancy. Kevin Baas^{talk: new} 02:38, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Flcelloguy:
File:WikiThanks.png Thanks for strong support and comments in my recent RFB nomination. I'm now WP's newest bureaucrat. :) =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:59, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks 2

Thank you for taking the time to review my case, i had to spend 2 and a half hours finding out how i might be able to get back on wikipedia, i'm sorry for the harsh words in which i presented my case, but, i was very frustrated how sth. like that could happen.
But i am glad that Wikipedia is indeed a place which i took it for, a place for the people who want to help and are in good faith.
Thanks! --Larzan 13:26, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Email

I noticed you don't have the facility set up for people to email you. It's generally good for an admin to be emailable...if you want a gmail account to use specifically for Wikipedia, email me and I will send you an invite. Guettarda 22:20, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

To tell you the truth, I'm not entirely sure of the advantage to an admin - I suspect that a blocked user could still email you to appeal a block, but I'm not certain if that's the case - I could block you and we could see if the facility works :) Mostly though, it allows access to the super-secret back-channels that the admin cabal use (or so I assume - I'm still waiting on my invited to the cabal...although, of course, I would have to say so ever if I had been). Basically I wanted to ask you a question "off screen" recently...public discourse is admirable, but not always wise. Guettarda 22:30, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Email function is necessary if someone wants to clarify something and not use the normal wikipedia channels. The disadvantage of using the wikipedia channels is that nothing is really 'deleted', admins can always see the deleted history. Another point is the fact that if you block a user, the facility enables him to contact you and sort it out. I've had this experience once, and I explained the person my reasons for blocking him. He accepted the decision and hasn't caused trouble in WP ever since. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:32, September 7, 2005 (UTC)

>|<Rogue Bureaucrat>|<. I solemly swear I'm up to no good (clue If you're guessing) =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:32, September 7, 2005 (UTC)

Seems like I somehow missed your reply to me. As for the name - you wouldn't be the first to have an address like that, but why not flcelloguy@ - keep it simple, so if you choose to use that address to subscribed to the mailing list, people would know who you are right away. Guettarda 11:31, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

WP:MIND

When will round three of WP:MIND start?--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 16:27, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Thankies!

Just a thanks for de-vandalising my user page.  :) Bushytails 23:03, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Biff Rose Protection

Still having a good deal of trouble. Willmcw reverts any change I make. He asked me not to remove anything from the temp Biff Rose page. I agreed. I went to add some information, and saw that things that I had added, as well as those of another user, were removed. It is this double standard for which I think that willmcw should be removed form any editing in the least on the rose spot. I understand that everyone thinks he is a great editor, but when I've done what he asked, he continues to behave in any fashion he sees fit.

On to Sojmabi Pinola. This man is an admitted fan of Rose. No problem there, I think I even things out as an admitted critic of Rose. But... he also promotes Rose on his own website, and this is causing more problems at the temp Biff Rose page. He too reverts every addition I make, and erases quotes that Biff Rose himself puts up on his website, claiming I don't understand the intention of the quote. This could go on forever. I think there needs to be some kind of mediation, and agreement between willmcw and Sojambi Pinola to stop changing everything I post on the site about Rose. I have made an effort to stop changing everything they say, so that there can be a greater accumulation of all things rose. It seems he was pretty interesting early on, but clearly something changed, as his lyrcs become darker, angrier, and very anti semitic, he refers to any jewish person in his music biz as hook nosed, calls them kikes and jooz. I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP> he posts on his websites about them. PLease keep the page frozen until Willmcw and Sojambi Pinola stop reverting all edits not by them. Sojambi Pinola accuses every person that isn't him or willmcw to be a sock puppet of me. This is ridiculous. There has to be some kind of supervision. I need help in this. But in editing, there must be a cohesive read of the article. so there is that to keep in mind, with my most recent edits, as I realized I had to address the issues and the lack of clarity that Sojambi Pinola was afflicting the piece withJonah Ayers 07:37, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Here is a recent "improvement" to the article by Jonah Ayers. Please judge for yourself. [[15]]. - Sojambi Pinola 00:30, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Rose page has been unprotected. It needs to be protected. There is no consensus on the temp page. PLEASE REVERT TO PROTECTION!!!!!!!!!!216.175.113.48 02:25, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Can you help with a page layout question?

Hi there, me again, still a relative newbie. I'm working on Girl along with many others as the current COTW, and I can't get the pictures and whitespace to display the way I'd like. The last edits I made put one picture up front right after the lead paragraph, and it's hanging out on the righthand side of the space with the Contents box (autogenerated) on the lefthand side, which I'm happy with... but I don't like the way the Etymology section title isn't starting all the way over on the lefthand side. I know that I can use <br style="clear:both" /> to make the new section heading start on the lefthand side, but when I do that, the picture pops up above the Contents box. Can you suggest a solution? Do I need to make a template to display the picture, or something? Or should I just stop obsessing about the white space? :-) Mamawrites 08:13, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Nevermind... I figured it out, with a tip from Janke about __TOC__. Mamawrites 22:19, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

INHERITANCE TAX (UNITED KINGDOM)

Thank you for your welcome message. I've just written my first article - an almost complete rewrite of Inheritance Tax (United Kingdom). I thought it might be useful if an experienced Wikipedian had a look at it to see if my approach is more-or-less right. Obviously I vouch for the actual content. AndyJones 20:32, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Cool. Thank you for your help on this.AndyJones 01:28, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Adminship (and your article)

I must thank you profusely for your support on my RfA. I am honored to receive the adminship tools, and promise to use them wisely. I was surprised at the near-unanimous support for it; thank you for voting for me. Also, thank you for all you do on Signpost- I appreciate the help that you've given me in recent weeks.

By the way, regarding the article you were going to write, Love Virus = MARMOT, for what it's worth. This has been confirmed. And Signpost should be on time this week, my internet's back up. Turns out it was user-error :) Ral315 03:33, September 11, 2005 (UTC)

Biff Rose

A person close to Willmcw unprotected the Biff Rose page before anyone got a good mix of the man down. Can you help so we can iron out our differences- by the talk page, and my posts to you, it should be clear that there has not been enough movement in the right direction. PLease protect before we get lost in the onslaught all over again.Jonah Ayers 03:36, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

I think the editing Tony Sidaway did to the Biff Rose article was great. And I say that even though he took out most of what I wrote. Simple, educational, and very NPOV. Plus, we were really at a standstill, and he supplied fresh blood and fresh perspective. I ask only that if you do freeze the page again at some point, you revert to an administrator's last edit beforehand, rather than leaving the page in a potentially controversial, vandalized, POV or libelous state. Thank you. - Sojambi Pinola 22:16, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

I appreciate your comments on my page; thank you.

I do believe I have made an effort to be civil, and I will continue to do so. I do not feel my efforts are reciprocated. Jonah Ayers has wiped your recent comments off of his talk page, along with evidence of his bullying. Thought you might want to know. [16]. He also consistently adds POV comments without discussing them, makes consistent efforts to put administrator WillMcW in a poor light, may be sockpuppetting as user:216.175.119.92 and generally acts in a bullying manner. It is surprising to me that you continue to see these as "disagreements," or "edit wars" rather than a guy who is abusing Wikipedia. Please take another look at the tenor of his contributions before freezing any pages in a form that he has written. [17] Thank you. - Sojambi Pinola 07:38, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

What's a good tag for...

...accounts which seem to have been made for the purposes of impersonation? --HappyCamper 13:44, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Re. the Portal story

I wrote an article on the portal namespace in the August 29 issue. Ral315 14:19, September 11, 2005 (UTC)

That sounds like a GREAT idea. But that's an idea we should develop, not rush into this week's issue. And it perhaps should be closer to the elections, so that the last part is within a week or two of the start of voting. I'll write more later, but, seriously, that's a great idea. Ral315 15:02, September 11, 2005 (UTC)

Bmicomp's RfA

Well, my RfA has not quite completed yet, but either way, I'd like to thank you for your vote and your support, regardless of the outcome. -- BMIComp (talk, HOWS MY DRIVING) 18:22, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

My RFA

Thank you very kindly for your support for my nomination. I promise your trust will not be misplaced; I may occasionally be slightly buzzed with power, but never drunk. ;) · Katefan0^(scribble) 22:34, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

Heads up: minor edits on your paper to update it

Heads up: minor edits on your paper to update it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2005-09-12/Features_and_admins&diff=23135157&oldid=23133804

Hoping that meets with the approval of editor, wub, and assistant-editor, Flcelloguy.

--GordonWattsDotCom 01:28, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

• FYI, Ral315 reverted my edit here and gave this commentary: "revert; Signpost is not a soapbox to gauge public opinion." *I replied to him along these lines:

• • I saw your revert on the paper:

(diff) (hist) . . Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2005-09-12/Features and admins; 01:28 . . Ral315 (Talk) (revert; Signpost is not a soapbox to gauge public opinion.)

I did not post to estimate or measure or gauge public opinion:

Conversely, an editor myself, I posted to update the news. (Further, I could care less to estimate the public opinion; rather, it is important to educate readers so they can be an educated voting public.)

I respect your opinion, but you're only a 15-year old high-school sophomore, and I'm a 39-year old veteran, even to the point of being an old geezer. Why don't you run it by the editors before you revert -unless you can justify keeping the public in the dark; besides, I did not advocate or promote anything: I just reported on the news, about which I am expert.

--GordonWattsDotCom 01:35, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

In all fairness, I want to let you know I'm going to notify the editors about you, so you won't feel I'm talking behind your back. It's their paper, after all, and they can determine these matters.--GordonWattsDotCom 01:40, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

--GordonWattsDotCom 01:43, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Mind Benders

FYR, a user solved the unsolved question of last round. Deryck C. 08:39, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Mind Benders

The new questions are moved to the page you designated me to move to (similar to the previous 2 question pages) Deryck C. 09:01, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Nice articles in The Signpost this week, I appreciate the work from you and everyone else during my hiatus. --Michael Snow 22:42, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

My sig

Yeeeah... I hope it doesn't make me seem like I'm not the evil person I am. :) I just thought I'd try something new. Now your name on the other hand... I've been meaning to ask you, does it refer to the state of Florida and a big string instrument, or to a sexual practice that kind of sounds like your name? Or both? Cheers. --Lord Voldemort ^{(Dark Mark)} 21:42, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, if you just read your name kind of drunk, you can easily get fellatio. Well, you might not get fellatio, but you may read it as fellatio. Or is my mind just too deep in that proverbial gutter? --Lord Voldemort ^{(Dark Mark)} 21:49, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

ArbCom series

Question: Are you sure that all candidates will have submitted their name by the November 14 article? Even if we have two articles on candidates, we shouldn't write either until all of the candidates have submitted their filings- I think we should do candidates alphabetically, with no exceptions.

Also, I'm working on a few other things, that I'll post on the planning page. Ral315 22:17, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

I'd be happy to let you write as many as you want- all of them if you prefer- I'm very impressed by the first article. I disagree with all the bolding, because the titles will be links anyway (and since the page would link to itself, it would turn bold anyway. Also, I think we should remove the "next week" thing, and put a larger, more visible notice at the bottom of each article. These changes allow us to use a single, transcluded template, rather than having to copy text into the article or create more than one template.

Regarding the link to the 2004 ArbCom elections, do you think, rather than linking to the December ones, we should also note the July 2004 elections? (A few users on ArbCom were elected in July and have not ran since...)

I really look forward to this series, and thanks for all the work you've done (and, truly, for the thought of doing such a comprehensive series. I shall nominate you for a Pulitzer Prize upon the completion of the series. Ral315 04:43, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Notification Bot

I have not fully implemented as it is still in testing phases. --AllyUnion (talk) 03:08, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Furthermore using the '#' is for commentation of your cron file. It is not necessary to have it. --AllyUnion (talk) 03:10, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

The bot is in operation, but is still in testing phases. Your one time message did not get sent, as the bot was not in operation at the time you wanted to send out that message. --AllyUnion (talk) 11:02, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Mind Benders

Hi, Flcelloguy,

I'd like to ask you to put my name in the list for the Mind Benders notifications.

Thanks,

Milena 19:46, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

WP:MIND 22:07, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

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Challenge yourself, and get ready to think!

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user:60.224.179.68

Thanks for reverting user:60.224.179.68's vandalism to my userpage. That IP was adding hoax allegations of child porn etc. to various pages, and seems to have resented that I has reverted him. He is now blocked. Thue | talk 20:03, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

user:Arrigo equals user:217.140.193.123

Hi Flcelloguy,

Below is the 3RR I posted on WP:AN/3RR

I see you volunteer for mediator, well, here's a good one for you this "split personality" user user:Arrigo == user:217.140.193.123 is making things quite difficult here at wikipedia, PLEASE, PLEASE have a look at User talk:Francis Schonken/Arrigo disruption and possibly also at User_talk:Scimitar#Hi_Scimitar.2C.

Again today he also was mingling in a discussion with his two personalities at talk:Victoria, Princess Royal and Empress Frederick, taking seemingly different stances with each of the splits of his personality...

I haven't posted the RfC preparation now at User talk:Francis Schonken/Arrigo disruption on RfC yet, well, one needs two "certifying" users, doesn't one. So here's a choice for you (if you haven't blocked 217.140.193.123 yet, which would also block Arrigo): could you please either:

• Negotiate with Arrigo, that he stops using his 217.140.193.123 "alias" so disruptingly

-either-

• "certify" the RfC proposal at User talk:Francis Schonken/Arrigo disruption

That would be a great help!

AN/3RR post:

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Three revert rule violation on [[:Template:Encodefirst]] (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and [[:Template:Encodefirst]] (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). == :

NB: user:Arrigo == user:217.140.193.123, see, for instance, this and this

• Previous version reverted to:
• 1st revert: 18:53, 17 September 2005 and 19:25, 17 September 2005
• 2nd revert: 19:27, 17 September 2005 and 19:48, 17 September 2005
• 3rd revert: 19:43, 17 September 2005
• 4th revert: [DiffLink Time]

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--Francis Schonken 21:31, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

For your information: User Francis Schonken created today a new disambig page at Victoria of the United Kingdom (disambiguation) and only a bit later he realized that there already exists another, essentially similar old disambig page Princess Victoria of the United Kingdom. When realizing that, Schonken started to fight against our GDFL terms, Schonken obviously wants to save his own creation and instead tries to have the old page merged into his creature (which will equal cut-and-paste move and will destroy the old page's edit history). I find his such conduct highly disruptive. As he is fighting against GDFL instructions, he probably should be blocked. Arrigo 23:09, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, have you checked this item? Arrigo 00:10, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Mediation Francis - Arrigo

Hi Flcelloguy, thanks for your offer to mediate. I accept it with pleasure. Note, however, I'm currently re-filing a 3RR, while reverts by Arrigo continue on both pages mentioned above. I hope I get it right this time. --Francis Schonken 00:48, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your note on my page. However, Arrigo appears to have been blocked now by another sysop, as a result of my second 3RR request. So maybe it's wiser not to reply to your question for the time being, applying discretion as long as Arrigo is not in the position to take part in the talks. --Francis Schonken 08:19, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

The charter is here. (Relating to Esperanza)

Hello Flcelloguy, the Charter for Esperanza is up. Take a looksie :) Redwolf24 (talk) 02:49, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

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Proximity Effect

Thank you thank you! I didn't make a disambig page: there were only two topics so I did a hybrid: moved Proximity Effect to Proximity Effect (comic), made Proximity Effect the physics stub and added a note at the top with a link to the comic page. Hopefully that is acceptable? I fixed all the links to Proximity Effect (excluding my stuffs and a user page) and wrote a pathetic little stub. Now I am Desperate for a physicist. I know almost as little about physics as I do about comics. You suggested Peer Review, but that seems a little premature since I'm such a clueless idjit and the article is still stubby, so I'm thinking begging on Pages needing attention might be the next step? Please take a look at the current Proximity Effect and advise. And thank you again!!!

• bah had to add disambig anyway: the bands are nn, but there is an album by a noteable band. Ignore the "is this acceptable" above - thnx!

Sojambi Pinola

I quoted Sojambi Pinola aka Steve Espinola- a name he claims on wikipedia .. in a talk page, from another website, which is the property of the subject of the article we are discussing. But Sojambi. Steve has posted parts of another email address trying to link that person to me.. I think this is uncalled for an abherrent behavior. Could you look into it? Thanks.Jonah Ayers 23:28, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Arrigo continues disruptive behaviour after block

Here's a piece of the text I just wrote on Talk:Victoria of the United Kingdom (disambiguation):

Moving a redirect page unneccesarily obfuscates its history. So Arrigo still today occupied in moving Victoria of Saxe-Coburg (a redirect page!) to Victoria von Saxe-Coburg (still a redirect page!) to Victoria von Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld (still a redirect page!), somewhere along the line in an edit history noting "undoing a cut-and-paste move" (yeah, sure), littering the place with double redirects (as of writing this still not cleaned up, notwithstanding an invitation to do that [18]) is nowhere a "positive asset" to wikipedia's GFDL policy: it makes unclear whether the page he moved it to was just created today, or was a redirect page existing on wikipedia for ages, without anyone having changed it. It also obfuscates the true history of the "Victoria of Saxe-Coburg" page (now seemingly created "today"). You need to be really hard core to trace its history back over two page moves to "von" "Saalfeld". This anti-GFDL triple page move in itself is IMHO enough to get Arrigo banned again. --Francis Schonken 23:33, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know how to handle this. I wished I knew how to handle this, but I don't. --Francis Schonken 23:49, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Your question

It's not between "me" and "Arrigo". Its between "Arrigo" and the "wikipedia community".

That being said, I'm prepared to put some effort in getting this problem between Arrigo and the wikipedia community solved. Under whatever conditions. That is, as long as I believe in the method being offered leading to a solution.

So, if it leads to a solution, no problem, everything said during mediation will be kept there, unless mediation was only a delay mechanism for not getting the problem solved. If the problem does not get solved in this way, everything said is under GFDL, and can be used in whatever way most fit to get to a solution of the issue.

I don't know whether that's clear, but that's *exactly* how it is for me. --Francis Schonken 00:05, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

User:Mike Garcia death threats to me and 3RR violation

Hi Flcelloguy, just writing to signal that Mike Garcia has been making death threats to me at Hypnotize, as well as violating the 3RR rule a startling 7 times (versus 4 different users) in 1.5 hours and vandalizing User:Pasboudin. He hasn't been blocked yet as of this moment, could you please check my 3RR complaint to see if it's valid? Pasboudin 02:44, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Please don't block me. He has been vandalizing the Hypnotize page again. I've been asking me to leave since his attitude on the System of a Down-related articles has grown. And for you, Pasboudin: I am not trying to say I'm better than you, I am not trying to say you suck and I am not trying to say you're stupid. -- Mike Garcia | talk 02:47, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your continued efforts to help resolve the System of a Down article disputes. :) Pasboudin 22:20, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

WP:MIND 06:19, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

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Also, congratulations to ROYGBIV for winning round two; it was an extremely close game, with the runner-up, Spondoolicks, only two points behind. Let's keep round three competitive! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk 22:31, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

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Spammed user page

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WP:MIND

In question 2 of Round 2, you've given a point to Keith D for cleverness. In case you haven't noticed, I had given the same answer before him. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| r 3 $ |-| t |-|) 12:23, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks so much for the barnstar! And you know, that screencap is the first time I've seen the orange bar of death in a long, long time! (I have mine reset to be blue.) -- Essjay · Talk 20:53, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

The last time I'm spamming you all with Esperanza stuff

Hello Flcelloguy. As you may or may not know, there have been some troubles with Esperanza. So now, as a last ditch to save the community, please vote at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Reform on all neccisary polls. P.S. I'm very sorry for spamming you all with these messages, and this will be the last time. I recommend putting ESP on your watchlist. Cheers and please look at that, let's stop the civil war then. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:44, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

So, I'm starting to feel like I might be being had...

... is there any possibility that the original leader of Esp and the newly self-appointed pro tempore are sockpuppets, and the whole thing is just a diversion? See the edit summary of this entry. Mamawrites 10:42, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

No. Redwolf24 is not a sockpuppet of JCarriker. He's a highschooler from Washington State. -- Essjay · Talk 14:40, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

OK, even if I take your word for it, I'm starting to wonder if JCarriker is intentionally engaging in farcical diversions from real editing. I hope not; I want to believe his intentions are good. Perhaps I don't know enough about his history which led him to create Esperanza in the first place. Mamawrites 16:55, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Hah, I was right! User:Paul August called it on the Wikipedia Talk:Esperanza page... definitely farcical intentions behind some of this. I even got a "cool as a cucumber" award from User:Redwolf24. Were you not answering because you knew about the inside joke? Mamawrites 11:16, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

PLEASE HELP AT BIFF ROSE

There is a revert war going on. Anytime someone writes about Rose's anti smeticism, it is immediately reverted. Rose posts racist and anti semitic rants on his website, and the lyrics of his later records are rife with them. Willmcw and Sojmabi Pinola seem ot be working in tandem with Rose4- Pinoila is actually directly linked, and mentioned by name on many of Rose's websites, in posts, and in songs. I think the article should be frozen for the time being until a true consensus can be arrived at.Jonah Ayers 01:19, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

All well and good, except that a detailed study of Mr. Ayer's contributions [[19]] will show that it is he and a user called 216.175.112.9 [20] who are being confrontational and making trouble. Jonah deletes others' talk page comments[[21]], and erases the history from his own talk page [[22]]. He titles his changes "Not an ally anymore," etc. I think you will find that everyone else contributing to the article is doing their best to be civil in the face of extreme goading and hostility from these users. I don't know how to explain this without pointing a finger, but I wish I could. I am content to continue trying to work with Mr. Ayers, but it is difficult when he keeps running around to other administrators' talk pages acting like he is being victimized, when that is certainly not the case.

If administrators try to help him and he doesn't like their attempts, he then turns on them. Here is the most recent example of this: part one: [[23]] and, after the guy initially tried to side with Jonah, part two: [[24]].

Here's a link to the talk page. [[25]]

I think user:Marcuse nailed what's going on that that page pretty well:

"I[t] seems like specific editors are deleting sentences pretty much at random in order to get other editors to break the 3 revert rule and get blocked. I don't think the content of the article has anything to do with it. Is there an official way to deal with this? Marcuse 11:25, 23 September 2005 (UTC) "

- Sojambi Pinola 17:21, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

• I'd like to chime in with one more thing here. The edits Jonah Ayers keeps reverting are not regarding anti-semitism or racism of Biff Rose, in fact those edits have remained stable for the most part. What he keep deleting is basically factual info from the article that has noting to do with the issues Ayers raises. See, for example Tony's comment on the talk page. I really think that this editor is simply out to cause trouble and portray himself as some kind of victim, wasting everyone's time, including yours. Marcuse 18:48, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Mind benders

Thanks for the note. I noticed at approx 11:00 hrs my time (+5:30), the max no of wikipedians are on IRC. Perhaps that can be the base time? I notice Zscout (California, USA) and Evil Monkey (New Zealand) both present. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:16, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Request for chart

Thank you for the compliment! As for a chart for you; Ok, but it might be a few days. Currently trying to wrap something up here at my desk and head home for the day. Then, I'm gone for the weekend and may not edit again until Monday. So, if you don't see it for a few days please do not be surprised. If you don't get it to you by Tuesday give me a nudge. You're actually the first person to ask me for a chart who was not an admin nominee, so I don't mind. I just hope I don't get requests from dozens of people :-) --Durin 21:47, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

I've done the chart for you. You can view it at Image:Flcelloguy-edits.gif. I won't be placing it on my contributions subpage so please feel free to delete it whenever you're done with it or keep it if you want.

Some comments:

• Ok, you need therapy. 9 days since 5/14/2005 (your first edit) when you haven't edited on Wikipedia? You're a serious wikiholic. You need help, and FAST! :-)
• Average of ~32 edits per day is the highest average I've seen in the prior 12 charts that I've done, by far. Wow!
• I wish my chart looked as consistent as yours :-) Mine's pretty good, but the total edits line wavers more than yours, and my average is lower than yours. In fact, the only way in which I exceed you is that your highest edit count on a single day is 135. I've got 4 days over that (highest at 159). Still, I'm envious and not worth of your wikiness ;-)
• You use edit summaries 97% of the time, and 97.6% of the time in the last 500 edits. Bravo!

All the best, --Durin 21:06, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Request to remove me from Bot List

Could you remove me from the bot that automatically sends news updates to users. I don't really need a false positive created on my user talk page by the bot notifying me about every new contest. All I did was make the logo (which I hope you like), however I won't be contributing to the questions. Thank you. -- Riffsyphon1024 23:51, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Jack Sarfatti

I've been trying to get him to discuss his objections to my rewrite of Jack Sarfatti (you might already know that I rewrote this article during a VfD and the result was to keep the modified version), but he's apparently too upset to listen to reason, and I might need some help until he calms down. He keeps reverting the 'Vfd approved version' (as it were) to his own highly biased version, and now he has placed this threat on my user talk page. What do you think? ---CH (talk) 00:14, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

On Sep 23, 2005, at 5:39 PM, Jack Sarfatti (sarfatti@pacbell.net) wrote to Tony Smith physicist/attorney:

OK Tony they locked me out. I will inquire with the Attorney General of Florida on Monday and if Wiki is incorporated there I fill file a formal complaint that, if successful, can result in the loss of their tax exemption with the IRS.

Cleanup taskforce

Hi, in case you did not see it, I have added a task to your desk. Andreww 05:16, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:WSHS.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:WSHS.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag, so its copyright status is therefore unclear. Please add a tag to let us know its copyright status. (If you created/took the picture then you can use {{gfdl}} to release it under the GFDL. If you can claim fair use use {{fairuse}}.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know on the image description page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Otherwise, see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have tagged them, too. Note that any unsourced and untagged imaged will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thanks so much. --Secretlondon 13:17, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Q9 at WP:MIND

Yes, you're correct. What a good coder in both maths and compu. Deryck C. 14:48, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

lolhax

Maybe I should have left it. I've got 18 archives, starting at June 01, so yeah I get my fair share of em. You wanna handle em? ; - ) Redwolf24 (talk) 00:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Spoo!

Spoo has just been featured! Thanks for your support! --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 05:13, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Trading User Pages

Have just done and edited your user page, think it all works ok, go ahead with yours :D Alf ^melmac 14:45, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

There are lots of things that you have improved, not sure about the green though... Excellent job, there. Now I wish I'd had the inpsiration to be as daring with yours. Alf ^melmac 14:58, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

OK, I've done version two. Split up sections as you did mine, 'advertiboxed' the links. Couldn't force myself to use any of the web colours as a backgound against the changes though ; ) Alf ^melmac 23:49, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

This week's Signpost installment.

Your ArbCom piece is a bit long, so what do you think about adding sub-headings in a few places, to split it up a bit? Let me know what you think (it was a great piece overall, though)

Also, just wanted to thank you for the Wikipedia Signpost reference in my sig that I so crudely stole from you :) I wish I had thought about it earlier! Ral315 W_S 17:50, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

I like it!

I like the enew page :) Redwolf24 (talk) 23:56, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Jack Sarfatti

Hi, a few days ago you locked this article because of a content dispute between myself (and some other users) and User:JackSarfatti, User:Jackhorner and some others (possibly socks for Jack Sarfatti, the person, not that I much care about that).

I've tried and tried and TRIED to get first JackSarfatti (now an indefinitely blocked user) and then Jackhorner to discuss Sarfatti's objections on the talk page of the article. After much effort I managed to get JS(?) to confine his comments to that page, but I am finding it impossible to engage him in anything approaching rational discussion. I must have tried four times simply to teach him to properly sign, date and indent his comments on the talk page, but he can't even seem to learn to do that. In addition to refusing to distinguish his own comments from those of other users, he is pasting in emails in a manner which completely obscures who said what. This formatting issue is one reason why I find it essentially impossible to try to continue talking to him. I really can't discuss anything with anyone who seems to go out of his way to utterly confuse who said what when, especially when one of his major complaints is that I allegedly misrepresented who said or did what, or whatever. If you look at the Talk:Jack_Sarfatti talk page, I think it will be obvious what I mean. I would have been willing to ask for mediation or whatever (in fact I tried to suggest that to Sarfatti earlier in this dispute), but at this point I have to doubt that Jackhorner is capable of holding even a mediated discussion.

Anyway, the reason I am writing to you is that one of Jackhorner's principle complaints since the article was locked seems to be that I have not corrected one or two factual errors (noted in the talk page, if you can figure out what Jackhorner is trying to say). Of course, since the article has been locked, I cannot do that, and I tried several times to explain this to him on the talk page, but he just can't seem to take in anything I say. I'm ready to give up. It seems unfortunate to me that my attempt to get JS to discuss his objections to my edits, rather than simply reverting the article to his own version (which I thought was highly non-NPOV), has led to such a mess, but unless you can suggest a better alternative, I can only ask you to unlock the article so he can change the article to whatever he likes. For all I care, you can lock the page to his version.

---Disgusted with the whole affair, but hoping you can help me extricate myself from it, CH (talk) 02:15, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, please unlock the page and do everything you can to tell User:Jackhorner that he can make whatever changes he wants to that article. He's too obnoxious for me to deal with and I don't care anymore. I want nothing more to do with this, but he keeps harrassing me because he can't revert the article to his 'approved version' while it is locked. TIA---CH (talk) 21:03, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Journalist's RFA

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Thanks

I want to thank you very much for your vote on my RFA. Greatly apperciated, I owe you one! Journalist | huh? 22 December 2025

Shauri's RFA

You may want to vote here now that Shauri has answered the standard questions. I would urge an oppose vote per Grace Note. freestylefrappe 21:11, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Durin has answered the questions, run, go, vote, now, comma, Redwolf24 (talk) 23:34, 26 September 2005 (UTC)