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| single3date = January 1983 | | single3date = January 1983 | ||
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Percussionist [[Laudir de Oliveira]] was dismissed from the band after the ''Chicago XIV'' tour, as his Latin-American style would not fit with the "more pop-oriented sound" of the band.<ref name="Seraphine"/>{{rp|200}} | Percussionist [[Laudir de Oliveira]] was dismissed from the band after the ''Chicago XIV'' tour, as his Latin-American style would not fit with the "more pop-oriented sound" of the band.<ref name="Seraphine"/>{{rp|200}} | ||
Upon its June 1982 release, ''Chicago 16'' was a hit album, especially as "[[Hard to Say I'm Sorry]]" became the band's second number one [[United States|US]] single,<ref name="Seraphine"/>{{rp|202}} going to number one on both the [[Billboard Hot 100|''Billboard'' Hot 100]] chart<ref>{{Cite magazine|url=https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1982-09-11|title=Billboard Hot 100 Chart for September 11, 1982|magazine=Billboard|access-date=July 27, 2017}}</ref> and the [[Adult Contemporary (chart)|''Billboard'' Adult Contemporary]] chart.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.billboard.com/charts/adult-contemporary/1982-08-21|title=Adult Contemporary for August 21, 1982|website=www.billboard.com|date=2 January 2013|language=en|access-date=July 27, 2017}}</ref> The album ultimately went platinum<ref name=17RIAA/> and reached number nine on the [[Billboard 200|''Billboard'' 200]] chart.<ref>{{Cite magazine|url=https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200/1982-09-18|title=Top 200 Albums for September 18, 1982|magazine=Billboard|access-date=July 28, 2017}}</ref> The single would also be included in its lengthier form "Hard to Say I'm Sorry/Get Away" on the ''[[Summer Lovers]]'' movie soundtrack.<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.afi.com/members/catalog/DetailView.aspx?s=&Movie=56885|title=Summer Lovers: Detail view of Movies Page|website=www.afi.com|publisher=American Film Institute|access-date=July 28, 2017}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|url=http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1986-08-01/features/8602150072_1_top-gun-danger-zone-higher-love|title=Cetera At No. 1 With 'Glory Of Love'|last=DeKNOCK|first=JAN|date=1986-08-01|newspaper=tribunedigital-sunsentinel|access-date=2017-02-16|language=en|archive-date=2017-02-16|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170216180207/http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1986-08-01/features/8602150072_1_top-gun-danger-zone-higher-love|url-status=dead}}</ref> "Love Me Tomorrow", the second single lifted off the album, features a lengthy orchestration at the end. It went to number 22 on the ''Billboard'' Hot 100 chart<ref>{{Cite magazine|url=https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1982-12-04|title=Billboard Hot 100 Chart for December 4, 1982|magazine=Billboard|access-date=July 28, 2017}}</ref> and number eight on the ''Billboard'' Adult Contemporary chart.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.billboard.com/charts/adult-contemporary/1982-11-13|title=Adult Contemporary for November 12, 1982|website=www.billboard.com|date=2 January 2013|language=en|access-date=July 27, 2017}}</ref> A third single, "What You're Missing", was released and peaked at number 81 on the ''Billboard'' Hot 100 chart.<ref>{{Cite magazine|url=https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1983-01-29|title=Billboard Hot 100 Chart for January 29, 1983|magazine=Billboard|access-date=July 27, 2017}}</ref> | Upon its June 1982 release, ''Chicago 16'' was a hit album, especially as "[[Hard to Say I'm Sorry]]" became the band's second number one [[United States|US]] single,<ref name="Seraphine"/>{{rp|202}} going to number one on both the [[Billboard Hot 100|''Billboard'' Hot 100]] chart<ref>{{Cite magazine|url=https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1982-09-11|title=Billboard Hot 100 Chart for September 11, 1982|magazine=Billboard|access-date=July 27, 2017}}</ref> and the [[Adult Contemporary (chart)|''Billboard'' Adult Contemporary]] chart.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.billboard.com/charts/adult-contemporary/1982-08-21|title=Adult Contemporary for August 21, 1982|website=www.billboard.com|date=2 January 2013|language=en|access-date=July 27, 2017}}</ref> The album ultimately went platinum<ref name=17RIAA/> and reached number nine on the [[Billboard 200|''Billboard'' 200]] chart.<ref>{{Cite magazine|url=https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200/1982-09-18|title=Top 200 Albums for September 18, 1982|magazine=Billboard|access-date=July 28, 2017}}</ref> The single would also be included in its lengthier form "Hard to Say I'm Sorry/Get Away" on the ''[[Summer Lovers]]'' movie soundtrack.<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.afi.com/members/catalog/DetailView.aspx?s=&Movie=56885|title=Summer Lovers: Detail view of Movies Page|website=www.afi.com|publisher=American Film Institute|access-date=July 28, 2017}}</ref><ref>{{Cite news|url=http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1986-08-01/features/8602150072_1_top-gun-danger-zone-higher-love|title=Cetera At No. 1 With 'Glory Of Love'|last=DeKNOCK|first=JAN|date=1986-08-01|newspaper=tribunedigital-sunsentinel|access-date=2017-02-16|language=en|archive-date=2017-02-16|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170216180207/http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1986-08-01/features/8602150072_1_top-gun-danger-zone-higher-love|url-status=dead}}</ref> "Love Me Tomorrow", the second single lifted off the album, features a lengthy orchestration at the end. It went to number 22 on the ''Billboard'' Hot 100 chart<ref>{{Cite magazine|url=https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1982-12-04|title=Billboard Hot 100 Chart for December 4, 1982|magazine=Billboard|access-date=July 28, 2017}}</ref> and number eight on the ''Billboard'' Adult Contemporary chart.<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.billboard.com/charts/adult-contemporary/1982-11-13|title=Adult Contemporary for November 12, 1982|website=www.billboard.com|date=2 January 2013|language=en|access-date=July 27, 2017}}</ref> A third single, "[[What You're Missing]]", was released and peaked at number 81 on the ''Billboard'' Hot 100 chart.<ref>{{Cite magazine|url=https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1983-01-29|title=Billboard Hot 100 Chart for January 29, 1983|magazine=Billboard|access-date=July 27, 2017}}</ref> | ||
The [[Rhino Entertainment|Rhino]] remaster does not include the full-length versions of "What You're Missing" and "[[Love Me Tomorrow]]." The former was replaced with its single edit, and the latter had two bars of the sequence (prominently featuring strings) that begins the instrumental bridge removed. However, this remastered version does include a Bill Champlin demo, called "Daddy's Favorite Fool", as a bonus track. A subsequent international release in 2010 (included in the ''Studio Albums 1979-2008'' box set from 2015) has the original album restored, with additional bonus tracks of the single versions of "Hard To Say I'm Sorry", "What You're Missing", and Love Me Tomorrow" as well as "Daddy's Favorite Fool."<ref>{{cite web |url=https://smile.amazon.com/Studio-Albums-1979-2008-Vol/dp/B010HUOQ20/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492549917&sr=8-1&keywords=chicago+studio+albums+vol.+2 |title = The Studio Albums 1979-2008 (Vol. 2) by Chicago on Amazon Music - Amazon.com}}</ref> | The [[Rhino Entertainment|Rhino]] remaster does not include the full-length versions of "What You're Missing" and "[[Love Me Tomorrow]]." The former was replaced with its single edit, and the latter had two bars of the sequence (prominently featuring strings) that begins the instrumental bridge removed. However, this remastered version does include a Bill Champlin demo, called "Daddy's Favorite Fool", as a bonus track. A subsequent international release in 2010 (included in the ''Studio Albums 1979-2008'' box set from 2015) has the original album restored, with additional bonus tracks of the single versions of "Hard To Say I'm Sorry", "What You're Missing", and Love Me Tomorrow" as well as "Daddy's Favorite Fool."<ref>{{cite web |url=https://smile.amazon.com/Studio-Albums-1979-2008-Vol/dp/B010HUOQ20/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492549917&sr=8-1&keywords=chicago+studio+albums+vol.+2 |title = The Studio Albums 1979-2008 (Vol. 2) by Chicago on Amazon Music - Amazon.com}}</ref> | ||
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|headline=Side One | |headline=Side One | ||
|extra_column=Lead vocals | |extra_column=Lead vocals | ||
|title1=What You're Missing | writer1=[[Jay Gruska]], [[Joseph Williams (musician)|Joseph Williams]] | extra1 = [[Peter Cetera]] | length1=4:10 | |title1=[[What You're Missing]] | writer1=[[Jay Gruska]], [[Joseph Williams (musician)|Joseph Williams]] | extra1 = [[Peter Cetera]] | length1=4:10 | ||
|title2=Waiting for You to Decide | writer2=[[David Foster]], [[Steve Lukather]], [[David Paich]] | extra2 = Cetera with [[Bill Champlin]] | length2=4:06 | |title2=Waiting for You to Decide | writer2=[[David Foster]], [[Steve Lukather]], [[David Paich]] | extra2 = Cetera with [[Bill Champlin]] | length2=4:06 | ||
|title3=Bad Advice | writer3=Peter Cetera, Foster, [[James Pankow]] | extra3 = Champlin with Cetera | length3=2:58 | |title3=Bad Advice | writer3=Peter Cetera, Foster, [[James Pankow]] | extra3 = Champlin with Cetera | length3=2:58 | ||
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===Outtakes=== | ===Outtakes=== | ||
"Remember There's Someone Who Loves You" (Champlin, Lamm)<ref>https://www.ascap.com/repertory#ace/search/title/remember%20there%27s%20someone%20who%20loves%20you | "Remember There's Someone Who Loves You" (Champlin, Lamm)<ref>{{cite web | title=ACE Repertory | website=www.ascap.com | url=https://www.ascap.com/repertory#ace/search/title/remember%20there%27s%20someone%20who%20loves%20you | access-date=2025-09-21}}</ref> and "Come On Back" (Bill Gable, Lamm)<ref>{{cite web | title=ACE Repertory | website=www.ascap.com | url=https://www.ascap.com/repertory#ace/writer/69746331/LAMM%20ROBERT%20WILLIAM | access-date=2025-09-21}}</ref> were recorded during the sessions and remain unreleased.{{citation needed|date=July 2017}} | ||
== Personnel == | == Personnel == | ||
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! scope="row"|Italian Albums (''[[Musica e Dischi]]'')<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.musicaedischi.it/classifiche_archivio.php|title=Classifiche|work=[[Musica e Dischi]]|language=it|access-date=June 20, 2024}} Set "Tipo" on "Album". Then, in the "Artista" field, search "Chicago".</ref> | ! scope="row"|Italian Albums (''[[Musica e Dischi]]'')<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.musicaedischi.it/classifiche_archivio.php|title=Classifiche|work=[[Musica e Dischi]]|language=it|access-date=June 20, 2024}} Set "Tipo" on "Album". Then, in the "Artista" field, search "Chicago".</ref> | ||
Latest revision as of 10:49, 9 December 2025
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Chicago 16 is the thirteenth studio album, sixteenth overall by the American rock band Chicago, released on June 7, 1982. It is considered their "comeback" album because it was their first album to go platinum since 1978's Hot Streets.[1] It made it into the Billboard 200 top ten,[2] and produced their second number one single in the United States, "Hard to Say I'm Sorry".[3]Template:Rp The album was certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) in August, 1982, two months after its release, and platinum in December, 1982.[4] "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" was nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal.[5]
Chicago 16 was the first album in a decade-long association with their new label Warner Bros. Records;[6] the band's first project to be produced by David Foster, who has been called the "key" to their comeback;[6] their first album to include some songs exclusively by composers outside of the group;[7] and is also the first album since Chicago VII (1974) not to feature Laudir de Oliveira as a band member.[3]Template:Rp It is also the first studio album to be released two years after the previous, as previous studio albums were released annually.
Background
The band brought in Sons of Champlin founder Bill Champlin as keyboardist and singer.[7] The group also retained Chris Pinnick from the Chicago XIV sessions. Through the band's manager, Jeff Wald, and on suggestion of Danny Seraphine, producer David Foster would make contact with the band.[8] Jeff Wald was dismissed as manager and the band enlisted Irving Azoff and Howard Kaufman as their new managers shortly thereafter.
Once they agreed to Foster producing the album (the band had considered him for 1980's Chicago XIV[9]), Foster radically redefined Chicago's sound for the 1980s, with all of the latest technologies and techniques, and also brought in outside songwriters and studio players to the sessions. Three members of Toto lent their expertise to the sessions. In 2015 former Chicago drummer Danny Seraphine defended this choice to change their sound: <templatestyles src="Template:Blockquote/styles.css" />
David Foster really tried to maintain the integrity of the band. He wasn't looking to diminish the musicality and the integrity of the band at all. Some people might say that he did. But he was going with what the times dictated. I'm telling you, there was word through our manager from radio stations saying they didn't want anything with horns on it. How do you deal with that?[10]
Script error: No such module "Check for unknown parameters". The soft rock leanings of Peter Cetera and Foster permeate much of Chicago 16. The band was moving to a new label after an entire career at Columbia. Robert Lamm was also unavailable for the majority of the album's production because of personal issues,[7] and the once-prolific writer only shared a sole partial writing credit on the release, with no lead vocal contributions. Lamm said of this change: <templatestyles src="Template:Blockquote/styles.css" />
I wasn't happy with the way things were going. The loss of Terry Kath was still massive. Suddenly, we have a new label who wants us to use outside musicians and songwriters, plus cut down the horns. We were a faceless band who now had a face. It wasn't what I signed up for. Also, my personal life was in turmoil at the time. I was very unhappy and came very close to leaving the band.Script error: No such module "Unsubst".
Script error: No such module "Check for unknown parameters". In an interview in 2019, Cetera described the initial songwriting efforts from band members that were presented to Foster as "pure shit," blaming alcohol and drug abuse in the band for the decline in the quality of songwriting. Eventually, Foster and Cetera collaborated to write the album's two hit singles.[11]
Percussionist Laudir de Oliveira was dismissed from the band after the Chicago XIV tour, as his Latin-American style would not fit with the "more pop-oriented sound" of the band.[3]Template:Rp
Upon its June 1982 release, Chicago 16 was a hit album, especially as "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" became the band's second number one US single,[3]Template:Rp going to number one on both the Billboard Hot 100 chart[12] and the Billboard Adult Contemporary chart.[13] The album ultimately went platinum[4] and reached number nine on the Billboard 200 chart.[14] The single would also be included in its lengthier form "Hard to Say I'm Sorry/Get Away" on the Summer Lovers movie soundtrack.[15][16] "Love Me Tomorrow", the second single lifted off the album, features a lengthy orchestration at the end. It went to number 22 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart[17] and number eight on the Billboard Adult Contemporary chart.[18] A third single, "What You're Missing", was released and peaked at number 81 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart.[19]
The Rhino remaster does not include the full-length versions of "What You're Missing" and "Love Me Tomorrow." The former was replaced with its single edit, and the latter had two bars of the sequence (prominently featuring strings) that begins the instrumental bridge removed. However, this remastered version does include a Bill Champlin demo, called "Daddy's Favorite Fool", as a bonus track. A subsequent international release in 2010 (included in the Studio Albums 1979-2008 box set from 2015) has the original album restored, with additional bonus tracks of the single versions of "Hard To Say I'm Sorry", "What You're Missing", and Love Me Tomorrow" as well as "Daddy's Favorite Fool."[20]
The original UK LP release contains "Rescue You" before "What Can I Say," unlike subsequent releases of this album.
Track listing
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Outtakes
"Remember There's Someone Who Loves You" (Champlin, Lamm)[21] and "Come On Back" (Bill Gable, Lamm)[22] were recorded during the sessions and remain unreleased.Script error: No such module "Unsubst".
Personnel
Chicago
- Peter Cetera – bass, acoustic guitar on "Hard To Say I'm Sorry", lead and backing vocals, BGV arrangements, rhythm arrangements
- Bill Champlin – keyboards, guitars, lead and backing vocals, BGV arrangements
- Robert Lamm – keyboards, backing vocals
- Lee Loughnane – trumpet, flugelhorn, piccolo trumpet
- James Pankow – trombone, horn arrangements
- Walter Parazaider – woodwinds
- Danny Seraphine – drums, rhythm arrangements
Additional personnel
- David Foster – keyboards, synth bass, rhythm arrangements, additional horn arrangements
- David Paich – synthesizers
- Steve Porcaro – synthesizers, synthesizer programming
- Chris Pinnick – guitars
- Steve Lukather – guitars
- Michael Landau – guitars
- Jeremy Lubbock, Peter Cetera and David Foster – string arrangements on "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" and "Love Me Tomorrow"
- Gerard Vinci – concertmaster
- Dave Richardson – lyric assistance on "What Can I Say"
Production
- Produced by David Foster
- Engineered and Mixed by Humberto Gatica
- "Hard To Say I'm Sorry/Get Away" mixed by Bill Schnee
- Mix assistance by Jack Goudie, Lee Loughnane and Walter Parazaider.
- Second Engineers – Britt Bacon, Jeff Borgeson, Steve Cohen, Bobby Gerber, Phil Jamtaas, Don Levy, David Schober, Ernie Sheesely and Chip Strader.
- Recorded at Bill Schnee Studios and Record Plant (Los Angeles, CA); Davlen Sound Studios (Hollywood, CA); Skyline Recording (Topanga, CA).
- Mixed at Studio 55 (Los Angeles, CA).
- Photography by Aaron Rapoport
- Original Art Design and Direction by John Kosh and Ron Larson
Reissue
- A&R/Project Supervisors – Lee Loughnane, Jeff Magid and Mike Engstrom.
- Bonus Selections mixed by David Donnelly and Jeff Magid
- Remastering – David Donnelly
- Editorial Supervision – Cory Frye
- Art Direction and Design – Greg Allen
- Project Assistance – Steve Woolard and Karen LeBlanc
Charts
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References
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