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Change of page

I need to change the page for the bank that I work for. I have change it, but someone undo my changes. The page has wrong information and a lot of information that is no longer important. Natacha Vale (talk) 17:52, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Since you have a conflict of interest with the page Banco Popular de Puerto Rico, could you please clarify your position within the company? If you were hired specifically to edit the article, please see WP:PAID; if you are an employee of the company, please see WP:COI (and avoid directly editing the article; see Wikipedia:Edit requests for instructions on how you can change content you object to). It appears you're attempting to remove a large portion of the article, as seen here. Articles on the English Wikipedia are not owned or controlled by the subject of the article, and are written, with few exceptions, by volunteer editors, and all contributions to articles such as the one you discuss are invariably scrutinized under content policies like WP:NPOV (maintaining a neutral tone and not giving undue focus to positive or negative aspects of a subject) and WP:V/WP:OR (that all material must be cited to reliable sources, typically third-party reporting). Removing a large section of the article, especially one necessary to establish context to the company's history, goes against WP:DUE and should be avoided; again, please see Wikipedia:Edit requests for instructions on how to work with volunteer editors to change the article in a way that benefits the company in a neutral and unbiased manner. Departure– (talk) 18:00, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

I am an employee in the Corporate Communications Division of Popular, Inc. There is inaccurate information in the page that needs to be corrected. I am trying to change it and to edit some old information that is no longer correct or relevant. Please let me know what I need to do to edit the information without someone else revert the changes.  64.178.212.63 (talk) 18:18, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Claims within articles are not changed simply because a corporation does not want a page to show something. If you have any doubts about specific claims, you need to understand Wikipedia's content policies; for instance, reliably verified material (per WP:V) given its due weight (per WP:DUE) should not be removed, unless there is reason to doubt either the reliability of the source, the claim's due weight within the article, or if another, more reliable (typically more recent) source disputes the claims.

It appears you are attempting to edit the article as an employee of the subject, Banco Popular de Puerto Rico, and are not being directly compensated for your edits. Therefore, per WP:COI, you should not directly edit the article except through edit requests to volunteer editors. Alternatively, you could get in touch with a paid editing service; though, per WP:PAID, these services must disclose that they're working for compensation, and are expected to comply with Wikipedia's content policies. A request to remove cited information even to a paid editing service is likely to be disputed by volunteer editors. Departure– (talk) 18:25, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Information does not become "no longer relevant." If it was significant enough to be reported by reliable sources, that is an historical fact and will not go away. And "an employee in the Corporate Communications Division" of the subject company is a pretty much textbook example of the sort of person who should not even think about editing that article. See our article on "When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia."--Orange Mike | Talk 01:57, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

The CFO that is in the page is incorrect, the bank does not have an employee with that name.

The bank does not have operations in Latin America or Central America. Eloan does not exist anymore.

The new President and CEO is Javier D. Ferrer (from July 1st 2025) Natacha Vale (talk) 14:18, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

For something as simple as a change of CFO or CEO, you can make the change, once you have declared your role, and so long as you cite a source; per WP:COIU.

In particular, keeping the name of someone who is no longer in the role in the article is a breach of our policy on writing about living people Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:10, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

My change was reverted

Hi there, my name is James Callaghan. I am a pupil at Kilmarnock Academy. I changed the "Kilmarnock Academy" article to show the change in the schools leadership role of Head Teacher. David Rose is still current Head Teacher but has gone to another school to become Acting Head Teacher there. Angela Brownlie has become Acting Head Teacher at Kilmarnock Academy. I was changing the article to show the previous statement however my change was reverted and was told by I presume a moderator called "Sweetebena" that my addition "did not appear constructive". Can I please have help on why my change was reverted as I think it was a perfectly fine addition to the schools article. 2A02:C7C:D075:7E00:C1A8:41BC:40C4:A132 (talk) 01:54, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

(i) Thank you for trying to keep the article up to date, James. You provide no evidence for the assertion that A.B. is the acting head teacher. Please add a reference. (See Help:Referencing for beginners). (ii) I strongly suggest that you choose a username and are logged in when you edit. Doing so helps to give your fellow editors the impression that you have a reputation for integrity that you'd like to protect -- so your edits are slightly less likely to be whimsical. (iii) On Template:Olive, some simple advice for the word whom: Simply don't use it, anywhere. In "whom is part of Kilmarnock Academy", it's not appropriate; but even in "whom Kilmarnock Academy employs", where it is appropriate, who can be used in its place. -- Hoary (talk) 03:59, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Whom is perfectly a good and correct word, in the right place. The rule for its use is to see if replacing "whom" with "him" (or "her") works: "her is part of Kilmarnock Academy" is clearly wrong; but "Kilmarnock Academy employs her" is OK.

If you would use "he" or "she", then use "who". A good mnemonic is that "him" and "whom" both have an "m", hence my emphasis on "him" not "her". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:56, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, James, for your good faith effort to use the object pronoun "whom". Please review the grammar and continue to use the word. Applying vocabulary and grammar is the only way to avoid the dumbing down of the English language. I suggest an excellent small book "The Transitive Vampire" by Karen Elizabeth Gordon. I am not immune to mistakes so I keep a copy handy.

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Your attempt to improve the article brought Kilmarnock Academy to my attention, so I now know a little about your school. For example, I didn't know that Sir Alexander Fleming had been a pupil. One improvement I would appreciate is having the dates of birth and death included for people in the "notable pupils" list. It saves me having to follow a link to determine whether they were active in the century that particularly interests me.

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Humpster (talk) 08:08, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors may be of interest. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:35, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

On the notion that English is somehow being dumbed down, see page 1 of this century-old book. The fact that whom is appropriate in a particular context doesn't make its use there obligatory. I'm wary of pushing anyone in the direction of studying grammar; but I welcome curiosity about it, and for those who are curious about this minor matter I recommend this blog post by one Warsaw Will. -- Hoary (talk) 05:56, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

derogative?

I think this edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_the_Great_Wall_of_China&diff=1296994864&oldid=1296994346 was correct except one word. bbc did not use a word beginning with "mong...", they wrote about "workers". The wikipedia contributor writes "Mongolians" instead. The contributor seems to have no prove for this detail. Is this derogative? I am en-2, not sure about en Wiki Policies and guidelines. (I yet corrected it) --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 16:03, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

The Artnet source says "The suspects were identified earlier this month as a 38-year-old man named Zheng and a 55-year-old woman named Wang, both from the Chinese autonomous region of Inner Mongolia."[1] This probably means that they were Mongolian citizens, but the wording in the Wikipedia article could be tidied up to make this clear.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:14, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Residents of the Chinese autonomous region of Inner Mongolia are likely to be Chinese citizens. Also they are mostly ethnic Chinese, according to the article. TSventon (talk) 18:18, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm not aware of "Mongolian" being a derogatory term, fwiw. It's literally the name of a nationality. "Mongoloid", a term that was once used to describe people with trisomy 21, is now considered highly derogatory, but that's a different word. Is "Mongolian" now considered derogatory in some context? -- Avocado (talk) 20:22, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Maybe my en-2 results in incorrect wording. My idea was whether attributing (ascribing?) a stupid action to a ethnic minority whithout having a proof who committed it is derogative against the minority. The original bbc source did not write anything about the workers' ethnicity or ethnic descent. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 04:10, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Ah, got it. Yes, I agree that the diff you provided could have been worded better in that regard. -- Avocado (talk) 12:08, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Late husband, Powell St. John update

Hello,

Yesterday I tried to update my late husband, Powell St. John's Wikipedia page, and got terribly lost, and now I can't even access the page. Please help and thank you. Talon9tor (talk) 18:14, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

The article is Powell St. John. You should use material from reliable secondary sources if you are going to edit the article.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:24, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Talon9tor.

Editing an article about somebody close to you is regarded as a conflict of interest, and you are strongly discouraged from doing so directly. Instead, please use the Edit request wizard to raise a request for a change. Please specify the change you want as explicitly as possible; and as Ian says, if you cite a reliable published source for any information you want to add, it is much more likely to be effected. ColinFine (talk) 20:56, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Unable to log in

I donated some money some time back and was given the chance to register I have since lost the information to log in. How do I get the right Page to re-establish My Registration. I made a large contribution but do not seem to getting any help. John Smith 64.229.16.75 (talk) 20:26, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Contributions to the Wikimedia Foundation do not impact day to day matters like this, and donation records are not attached to accounts.

If you lost your login information for your account, you will need to create a new account, or you may request one via WP:ACC. 331dot (talk) 20:46, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

If you have an account with a stored email address where you can still recive mail then you can use Special:PasswordReset. You don't have to remember the username. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:34, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Are you talking about logging in to Wikipedia (this site), or to the donation site, which is separate? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:49, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Translate

I want to create an article in a different language. How does this work? Rafael Hello! 23:07, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:U, your want is curiously ambiguous. By "a different language", I guess that you mean a language other than English. So I'll assume this for now. I've no idea which language this is. Let's suppose that it's Abkhaz. An article in Abkhaz has no place in en:Wikipedia; it instead might go in ab:Wikipedia. It would of course have to satisfy the policies and guidelines of ab:Wikipedia. There's no reason to think that these are the same as those of en:Wikipedia, so you'd have to familiarize yourself with ab:Wikipedia, and, if you need more advice, you'd have to ask there, not here. -- Hoary (talk) 00:05, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Not that what I mean is how do you translate it? I do know there are different types of Wikipedias in different languages, I mean is there a special way to translate it, or do you have to write it traditionally, or any other way? Rafael Hello! 01:05, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

This was kind of my fault I said it not very clearly. Rafael Hello! 01:06, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

See WP:TRANSLATE. You can just create a new article with specific credit given. Or perhaps the translation tool, if you'd prefer. GoldRomean (talk) 01:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

The appropriate page in this case is WP:Translate us. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:48, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:U, it's still not clear whether you're asking about a translation (A) from English to a language other than English, (B) to English from a language other than English, or (C) from a language other than English to a different language other than English. If (A) or (C), you'll have to ask at the Wikipedia of the target language. If (B), the first stage is to check that you'll be able to demonstrate that the subject is "notable", as defined by and for en:Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 05:06, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

WP:TRANSLATE is for translating an article into English. It is linked to 67 pages in other languages if you want to translate an article into another language. TSventon (talk) 08:22, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Adding personal knowledge

My additional info to DAVID KIKOSKI'S Wikipedia page was constructive and harmless!!! Dave Kikoski and I were good friends in Milltown NJ since 1st grade, and his Dad gave music lessons to me and my 5 siblings!!! And my brother, Dave, played drums at 15 yrs old in a trio with Dave Kikoski at 12 yrs old on piano and his Dad on sax in central NJ bars!!! The 2 "Daves" were amazingly talented at that young age with the help of Dave's father giving us all instrumental music lessons!!! Adding this info is to this Wikipedia page is both constructive and interesting!!! 2601:84:837E:F020:40CD:38B6:BCBA:AFDF (talk) 05:01, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Title added. --CiaPan (talk) 05:06, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Please read and digest Wikipedia:Verifiability. "It describes a widely accepted standard that all editors should normally follow." The (very rare) exceptions do not include "It's true!", "I was there!", "It's constructive and harmless!", or the like. -- Hoary (talk) 05:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

In addition to what User:Hoary said above, please also note that shouting (indicated by tripled exclamation marks) does not add any weight to your statements. Wikipedia community tries hard to evaluate notability on how important facts are, not on who speaks louder. --CiaPan (talk) 06:33, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

The core content policy No original research forbids adding content based only on an editor's memory or personal experience. Cullen328 (talk) 07:08, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Translation of en:Beckhoff Automation under Draft:Beckhoff Automation

• en:Beckhoff Automation
• Draft:Beckhoff Automation

Hello, I have translated the German article of the company Beckhoff Automation as far as possible into English. Now I need help with checking and publishing the translation of the article. I would be very pleased to receive your feedback. Best regards, --User:SP at BA(talk) 07:04, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:U, the draft now starts: "Beckhoff Automation is a global leader in ...." I needed to read no further to be sure that (i) This was corporate advertising; (ii) This was written by somebody who was paid to write it.* To do: (1) Remove the promotional wording. (2) Ditch your assumption that templates for de:Wikipedia will work in en:Wikipedia (or vice versa). (3) Check that the sources for anything that could be described as an achievement are independent of the company. (4) Submit the draft. * As you admit. Thank you for your candour. -- Hoary (talk) 07:30, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Need Help in Moving Kiara Jian's page

Hi, I’ve created a draft article about Kiara Jain in my sandbox User:Renuka JPR/sandbox#Kiara Jain . Can someone help me move it to Draft: Kiara_Jain or let me know if it qualifies? Renuka JPR (talk) 07:38, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I moved it to Draft:Kiara Jain, Renuka JPR. NB to have any hope of promotion to article status, it needs radical revision. -- Hoary (talk) 07:53, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Could you please us with the same, it will be really helpful Renuka JPR (talk) 11:57, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Renuka JPR. I see that your draft has now been deleted as "unambiguous advertising".

Please remember that a Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what several people, wholly unconnected with the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, and very little else.

What the subject says or wants to say, or what their associates say or want to say, are almost irrelevant.

So if you choose to try again, these are the basic steps:

1. If you have any connection with the subject, read WP:COI and make an appropriate declaration. If you are in any way employed or paid in connection with the subject, you must declare your status as a paid editor.
2. Assemble several reliable independent secondary sources (see WP:42)
3. If you cannot find several such sources, do not spend any more time on this, as it will not succeed.
4. If you can find several such sources, forget everything that you personally know about the subject, and write a neutral summary of what those sources say.

User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst ColinFine (talk) 14:39, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

IP User communicating across two IPs in AfD discussion

Hi, In a current AfD discussion, an IP user started a comment and mentioned a COI concerning the subject of the article as well as accusing the proposer of collusion. I responded to this, and it appears the original IP user continued the conversation from a different IP. Normally I would leave it there, but as there have already been sockpuppets identified in relation to this AfD (and articles related to it) I am concerned about possible ban evasion. Would this be something to raise to SPI? Or is there a better place for this as they are not logged in? Many thanks Nayyn (talk) 16:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Some people can only access Wikipedia via an IP that uses Dynamic IP. It would be better if such individuals created accounts, and stayed signed in, but that is not mandatory. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:33, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Ok, the two IPs were in vastly different geographies, which indicated to me that it was some sort of proxy attempt. Nayyn (talk) 23:41, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Banishment

Is it possible for someone to be banned from Wikipedia in all languages? Like being prevented from editing on Wikipedia regardless of what language it is in? Questionadora ávida (talk) 16:40, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

m:Global bans. They're less common than site bans/blocks and are issued typically for cross-wiki abuse. Departure– (talk) 16:52, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Hey, I am an editor who made a big mistake by logging out of my account, and lost the ability to log back in because my school.

I have been editing without my account for over a month now, responding to ITN/C and many AFD discussions. I want to know if there is a way to log in without using auth.wikimedia.org (which is what my school blocked,) can I have some help here or is that impossible? 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:5C9F:48AE:E927:463B (talk) 16:55, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I think this is out of Wikipedia's scope. Is it possible for you to find a different wifi network, like at your house, library, mall etc? jolielover♥talk 17:12, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

? 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:5C9F:48AE:E927:463B (talk) 17:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

If logging in to Wikipedia on a school/work computer is blocked, it is outside the scope of Wikipedia and we can't help with this. As stated above, you will have to find a computer and network on which the access isn't blocked.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I don't think we should be advising people on ways to get around school network blocks. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:47, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

It's not "getting around" the school's block to tell students they can use Wikipedia at home or elsewhere. The school only has control over it's own network. 331dot (talk) 19:04, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

(EC) Template:Re As far as I can tell, IanMacM does not advise to get around a block within the blocking network, but rather to find a non-blocked Internet access in some other network... --CiaPan (talk) 19:08, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

here is the issue, they blocked it for the COMPUTER IP, which means i cant get around it even if i connect to a different internet. 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:34DD:DF1C:73C6:A701 (talk) 19:52, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

So it's a school-issued computer that can only connect to the school network, I gather. 331dot (talk) 19:55, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Have you tried asking your school to unblock it, at least temporarily? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:31, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I cant call tech support cuz they are on vacation 2606:9400:98A0:92A0:34DD:DF1C:73C6:A701 (talk) 19:49, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Just to clarify, I'm not suggesting that anyone tries to get around blocks that are imposed on school or workplace computers. If the computer or network does this, you will have to live with it. If you want to edit Wikipedia in your own time, that is your own business, but you will have to find a computer or network that does not block access.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:32, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Acronym consistency across articles

Does Wikipedia require that an acronym used to refer to a subject be consistent across multiple articles? If yes, then please point me to the WP policy. Assadzadeh (talk) 20:01, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia reports whatever reliable sources say. I assume you're referring to this discussion, which is best continued there. Shantavira|^{feed me} 20:10, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Yes, that's the discussion. Unfortunately, there are no reliable sources. It's unclear how the acronyms were chosen in the first place and if they needed to be changed to be consistent across the articles. Assadzadeh (talk) 20:18, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Your question does not have a yes/ no answer; it's going to depend on context.

Does this relate to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject American Open Wheel Racing#Abbreviations for race tracks (general discussion)? We're not going to supervote that discussion for you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:13, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Yes, that's the correct discussion. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by supervote. I was just looking for a WP policy that would either support my position or not. Assadzadeh (talk) 20:24, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Template:U. On Wikipedia, consistency within articles is far more highly valued than consistency between articles. Wikipedia:Consistency has links to various pages discussing consistency of various types. As for acronyms, they are covered in Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Abbreviations, which says Template:Tpq Other good advice in that MOS page is Template:Tpq As for supervote, that refers loosely in this case to an administrator or highly experienced editor acting as if their opinion is more important than other editors based on experience. It isn't. Cullen328 (talk) 21:05, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Creating an article?

Hi, I used to be able to create articles, as I do have 3,000+ edits, and I origanize WP:ELIT. But now when I try to create an article, I get referred back to "Creating your first draft" wizard. Have I done something wrong? If so, how can I find out and correct the problem? Thank you LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 21:40, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Template:U. A suggestion is not a mandate. As long as you have no conflict of interest regarding a topic, you can draft an article and move it to main space. New page patroller may evaluate it. If you have a COI, you should declare it and use the Articles for creation process. Use of wizards is always optional. Cullen328 (talk) 22:14, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Yes. My point was that until today, I was able to create articles directly as I have 3,000 edits and have created over 10 approved articles. Why today, then, am I no longer allowed to create articles directly? Why am I only allowed to use the draft article wizard? Thanks

LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 02:02, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:U, what specific error message do you see when you attempt to move a draft to main space? Please quote it word for word. I do not see any restrictions on your account. Cullen328 (talk) 07:37, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

On the advice of another wikipedian, I relogged into my account and the error is now gone. Next time, I'll do that first. I apologize for the trouble. Apparently somehow the account needed to be refreshed. Thank you for your time. LoveElectronicLiterature (talk) 13:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

CTOP first alert

What is the designated code for a CTOP first alert for editing Islamic State, which the talk indicates is a CTOP - The article Islamic State, along with other pages relating to the Syrian Civil War and ISIL, is designated by the community as a contentious topic. I'm not sure by looking at this table of codes. Nothing really stands out to me as being connected to the Islamic State, Syrian Civil War or ISIL. Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 21:45, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Or in the alternative, would it be okay to just leave a message on the editor's talk page, reminding them of what the talk page banner says (quoting the banner). Would that be considered a CTOP first alert? Isaidnoway (talk) 21:57, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping Articles on the Syrian Civil War are protected by General sanctions, rather than CTOP rules. You can find lists and standard messages at Wikipedia:General sanctions. TSventon (talk) 22:33, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

So I will just leave a message then, because the notice on the talk page specifically links to WP:CTOPICS, rather than to WP:GS, so CTOP rules do apply for Islamic State. Thanks. Isaidnoway (talk) 22:59, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

There are two messages on the talk page a Template:Tl tag and a GS tag. The controversial tag links to WP:CTOPICS, but is currently nominated for deletion as confusing. TSventon (talk) 23:50, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

I am specifically referring to the tag - WARNING: ACTIVE COMMUNITY SANCTIONS - The article Islamic State, along with other pages relating to the Syrian Civil War and ISIL, is designated by the community as a contentious topic. "Contentious topic" links to WP:CTOPICS, not WP:GS. And then in the collapsed Remedy instructions and exemptions - it says - An editor must be aware before they can be sanctioned. And "aware" links to Awareness of contentious topics - which says - When an editor first begins making edits within any contentious topic, anyone may alert the editor of the contentious topic designation using the {{Contentious topics/alert/first}} template.

That was what my question was related to, sorry if I didn't convey that clearly enough. Like I said though, I will just leave a comment on the editors talk page, since there is no specific code for Islamic State. Thanks again. Isaidnoway (talk) 00:13, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping The code for the template you are asking about is {{Gs/talk notice|scwisil}}, so the template is Template:Tl and the code is "scwisil". The equivalent user talk page notice is {{subst:Gs/alert|topic=scwisil}}. It is confusing that the wording of the general sanctions (GS) template links to Wikipedia:Contentious topics, which does not list topics under GS. Sorry if Ihaven't explained clearly, I am not an expert in this area. TSventon (talk) 12:18, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your time and replies, I handled it by leaving a notice on their talk page mimicking the language found in the basic CTOP alert. Isaidnoway (talk) 13:27, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I saw that, you could give some more information if they ask, otherwise it is probably fine for now. TSventon (talk) 14:01, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

How to edit maps

I want to edit the map in multiple age of consent articles to reflect the fact that Oklahoma rose their age of consent from 16 to 18. How do I do that? Do I need special software? Hamon669 (talk) 00:58, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Hamon669. I suggest asking at WP:Graphics Lab/Map workshop. ColinFine (talk) 08:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Pharmaceutical sales representative

I have added a file which is way too big. Please fix and leave in the caption I have added: "Medical representatives protest against the policies of multinational pharmaceutical companies and for job security. The Maharashtra police is keeping a keen eye."

Thank you 115.70.23.77 (talk) 05:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:La

I have added the missing thumb keyword so that the software uses the default "thumbnail image" size. There's more detail at Help:Pictures. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Redacted information found in reliable sources

I want to cite this report in Draft:Edwardsville Amazon warehouse collapse. Problem is, I found out that the name of the person who wrote it is redacted; this is not a problem because this St. Louis Public Radio report alongside no doubt numerous other sources around the web confirm it was written by one Robert Bruno. Is this sufficient enough attribution? How should this be handled? I don't know who redacted Bruno's name or what legal bearing that has on Wikipedia. Departure– (talk) Departure– (talk) 03:26, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

If that name is redacted on the first report then you shouldn't use their name on name field, rather keep this empty.––kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 06:52, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Wrongfully accused

What do i do if my husband is being held on a pv for something he didn't do hes been in prison for 9 months with no charges 2603:6011:5704:2194:543E:2AB:4F88:124 (talk) 04:08, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

This is the help desk, where volunteer editors assist others in answering questions related to Wikipedia. Wikipedia cannot provide legal advice. Please contact a lawyer for your specific query. Departure– (talk) 04:20, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Please seek professional legal help, Wikipedia cannot help with this. jolielover♥talk 04:20, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Maiden names

Why does Wikipedia not include maiden names for all female biographies? Is this deliberate to lessen the achievements of women before they are married? 2001:8003:4E2A:2500:AC66:1511:10F:B779 (talk) 07:43, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello. In order for any information to be included in a Wikipedia biography, it needs a reference to a reliable source verifying that information. So, if reliable sources discuss a notable woman using her married name and do not mention her maiden name, then neither will the Wikipedia biography of her. Many biographies of married women do mention the maiden name. I have been editing for 16 years and am unaware of any deliberate attempt to lessen the accomplishments of women before their marriage. That is the type of assertion that would require solid evidence. Cullen328 (talk) 08:15, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I have seen examples (not by wikinotable people) where people have changed their last names as part of a deliberate effort to reflect a disassociation with their birth family (Say moved out to California in the late 60s :)). I'm not honestly sure there whether the WP:DEADNAME situation applies there.Naraht (talk) 14:13, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

As a historian who works with a lot of 19th-century and early 20th-century material, it is by no means unheard of for a woman's maiden name to go unmentioned in our sources. Worse yet, in some sources we only get a mention of "Mrs. Raymond Veeblefetzer" and are unable to determine what her own first name was, meaning that the article on her husband or (in some cases) her offspring cannot mention it either. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:34, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Scrolling and Page Down Broken

On much of Wikipedia, scrolling and page down are broken when viewing Wikipedia on a desktop browser. I've tested with Firefox and Safari.

Option 1, using desktop Wikipedia on a desktop browser: I get motion sickness from the sidebars.

Option 2, using mobile Wikipedia on a desktop browser: If I click anywhere in an article, and then try to scroll or page down, it fails, due to focus issues. I know it affects this article, and several others over the past few days. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic 76.9.91.13 (talk) 07:49, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Near as I can tell, Wikipedia automatically assigns space for "bodyContent," but it allocates slightly more space to the contents of "bodyContent." This results in a scrollbar on one side of the text, and breaks scrolling overall, since Firefox and Safari don't propagate scroll events. 76.9.91.13 (talk) 08:12, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

You're welcome to register an account even just for reading (it's free). Once you're registered, there are preferences where you can switch to different themes. The older themes (which are generally designed for desktop use) like Vector 2010 don't have sticky sidebars on the desktop version and may be more comfortable for you to use. -- Avocado (talk) 14:06, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Help With not updating the page

Hello Sir/Madam,

I am having trouble editing the page of The College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London, I'm an employee of Capital City College and The College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London is our college name.

So the Wikipedia page of The College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London, City and Islington College and Westminster Kingsway College has merge into one college which is Capital City College Group.

What I am trying to doing is to transfer the history of the Wikipedia pages from The College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London, City and Islington College and Westminster Kingsway College, onto the capital city college group page and get rid of the Wikipedia pages of he College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London, City and Islington College and Westminster Kingsway College. I hope I am making sense.

The reason I am asking this is because we have re-branded the other colleges into Capital City College, if you can put that we re-branded on the Capital City College Group Page that would be perfect, thank you.

Here is the Link URL - Talk:The College of Haringey, Enfield and North East London - Wikipedia

Kindest Regards

Louie Sahraoui 194.82.132.121 (talk) 08:54, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello Louie Sahraoui. Others will doubtless make more informed recommendations, but speaking from general (20 years') experience, I would say this is not a good idea.

Wikipedia is not meant to be just a contemporary directory, but instead a comprehensive historical reference; we want to retain all the information about those historically separate institutions, and the Page histories of their articles.

It would, I suggest, be better to retain all three articles, add to each the information about them being merged into the current institution, and create a new article for that new institution: this need then contain only summaries of the history of its constituent forerunners (which will be retained in full in their articles), and the Page histories of all four articles can (and I think should) be retained rather than be merged (which I believe is a difficult operation). Obviously, wikilinks (and, if necessary and appropriate, redirects and/or disambiguation pages) can be used to link the four articles appropriately.

There is also the question of whether you, as an employee of the institution(s) involved, should be directly editing the page at all rather than using WP:Edit requests (except for minor uncontroversial data (like numbers of students)) – merging and renaming articles and their Page histories are very much not 'minor edits' or 'uncontroversial'.

Please also consult (if you haven't) Wikipedia:Ownership of content, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. Not to belabour the point, but these are Wikipedia's articles about the institutions, not the institutions' articles on Wikipedia.

Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81..230.195} 94.6.41.216 (talk) 16:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Help with cite template

I feel like a dummy, but despite doing it many times over the years, the cite template isn't displaying correctly for me in the references section. I'm trying to update passenger numbers for train stations. The pages in question are Granada railway station, Seville–Santa Justa railway station and others. Can anyone advise? Valenciano (talk) 09:35, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping I fixed the two mentioned pages by closing a link.[2][3] PrimeHunter (talk) 09:55, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:U as simple as that! Thanks. Valenciano (talk) 09:57, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Request for Review Support – Draft: The Matthew Tree Project

Hello, I am seeking help and guidance with the draft article The Matthew Tree Project, which was recently declined. The article was carefully written to comply with Wikipedia’s tone, neutrality, and notability guidelines. I removed all citations that did not offer in-depth coverage of the subject and focused only on reliable, independent, secondary sources. I also ensured the tone was factual and not promotional. Despite this, the draft was rejected again with a standard comment stating that the sources “do not show the subject qualifies” and that it “reads more like an advertisement,” which I respectfully do not believe reflects the latest revision. I would appreciate the input of more experienced editors to: Review whether the current sources do, in fact, support notability Suggest improvements I may not be seeing Advise whether this article has a realistic path toward approval Any advice or assistance would be very much appreciated. Thank you. Mark180378 (talk) 09:38, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

What is the general nature of your conflict of interest? You should also put a disclosure on your user page(actually that's where the box you placed on your draft should go)

Wikipedia is not a place for organizations to tell about themselves, their offerings, and what they do. A Wikipedia article about an organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. "Significant coverage" is that which goes into detail about what the source sees as important/significant/influential about the organization, not what it sees as important about itself. See WP:ORGDEPTH. 331dot (talk) 09:42, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, 331dot — I’ve now moved the COI template to my user page as advised. I appreciate the clarity regarding source requirements and will review WP:ORGDEPTH again carefully. Mark180378 (talk) 09:58, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Creating a new page with the same name

We need to create a new page with the same name. What are the things to keep in mind since I am unable to edit the current page. Every information gets reverted after we do the change. Please help. Binodan (talk) 10:00, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Who is "we", and what article are you attempting to create? 331dot (talk) 10:02, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

We is a brand I am working for - Hamdard Laboratories. The current page Hamdard India has incofrrect information and every time we correct it, the same gets reverted to the original. We want to create a separate page for Hamdard Laboratories India with the right information and link. Binodan (talk) 10:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hamdard India has been edited by a different account. Is that a colleague?

First, you must formally disclose your employment with this company on your user page- see WP:PAID. (your colleague will need to do this, too, as soon as possible) You should also read about conflict of interest. You should propose edits on the talk page(Talk:Hamdard India) in the form of an edit request(click for instructions, or use the edit request wizard).

Your colleague's editing was pure promotion- the main purpose of a Wikipedia article is to summarize what independent reliable sources say about the topic, not what it wants to say about itself. That said, if there are errors in the article, we want to know what those are, please discuss on the talk page. 331dot (talk) 10:13, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Also be aware of WP:BOSS, and have your superiors/colleagues read it, too. 331dot (talk) 10:13, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. This helps so much. Ues it was edited by a colleague. We will follow your guidance now. Binodan (talk) 11:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Creating a separate page for the same topic is not allowed. And if there is a concern about your edits to an existing page, that concern would presumably equally apply even if the page had a different name. DMacks (talk) 10:37, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Wierd pages transcluded

Editing Armand Duka, down in Pages transcluded onto the current version of this page are several wierd entries that area transcluding from mainspace pages. All I can figure out is that they are generated somehow from Template:Infobox officeholder

• Member of the UEFA (edit)
• UEFA (edit)
• Vice Member of the UEFA (edit)
• Vice UEFA (edit)

Could someone please verify for me?Naraht (talk) 10:10, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping It's correct. Template:Tl uses Module:Redirect to test whether some pages exist and are redirects. The purpose is to automatically add links in some situations. It can cause tested pages to be transcluded. Just ignore it. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:45, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Editing 1 row of a lengthy table

I'm trying to correct the details of one of the people listed in the table Passengers_of_the_Titanic#Third_class_2. Specifically, passenger Mr Lee Hing of China, aged 24. In the Lifeboat column it should state "C". Unfortunately I can't seem to edit this without messing up the coding of the adjacent rows and columns. Muzilon (talk) 11:44, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

@Muzilon I don't see a row with the information as you have specified. However, editing large tables like that is one of the few things that is easiest using the WP:Visual editor. Have you tried that? Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

The passenger's name was misspelled as Mr Lee Ling, which I have corrected to Lee HING, aged 24, of Hong Kong, China. He was incorrectly listed as a victim, when he was in fact a survivor in Lifeboat "C". His name probably should be moved alphabetically under "H" rather than "L". The visual editor just made a mess of things for me, unfortunately. Muzilon (talk) 12:02, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping See Help:VisualEditor#Editing tables. If a cell should be partially split then first split it fully with unmerge and then merge som parts. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:23, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

How complicated. Well, I think I got there in the end. Thanks for the tips. Muzilon (talk) 23:29, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

on recursive template use

this is more of a technical thing, which i don't believe will be useful to me at this exact moment, but might be in the near future (that is, probably within july), so might as well ask now~

is there any particular limit on how much templates can make use of other templates, and whether or not those templates could themselves be using other templates? and maybe a little more to the point, is there a limit to the extent to which that should happen? consarn _{(grave) (obituary)} 12:19, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Consarn. There is no policy limit, as far as I know, but there is a technical limit. If a page has too many template calls (whether directly or indirectly) the software may run out of storage while rendering it, and not expand any further templates. When this happens (eg with a large table populated with template calls) the only solution may be to split the page up. ColinFine (talk) 12:46, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

yeah, that's fair. so if template a does its own thing and uses template b, which does its own thing and uses template c which does its own thing and uses template e, which does its own thing and uses template f, which does its own thing and uses template g, which does its own thing and wonders why template d isn't used, it's fine, so long as it doesn't start tanking anyone's framerate consarn _{(grave) (obituary)} 12:54, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping See Help:Template limits. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:05, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

got it, so it really seems that the limits are more dictated by not hogging all the ram, meaning that a function like that would be fine if it used a total of around 9 relatively simple arguments, but would be a little less fine if it used 800 of them, 60 of those were chains of else ifs the size of some featured articles, and one was roughly equivalent to an entire ps4 game's assets all being loaded at once

thanks consarn _{(grave) (obituary)} 14:56, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Edits that don't change appearance

I think I remember there being a policy to avoid edits that don't change the user experience, so if A redirects to B, an edit changing [[A|C]] to [[B|C]] is not appropriate. Would that also include things like removing invalid parameters in an infobox?Naraht (talk) 12:35, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

See WP:COSMETICBOT and note the last line about human editors. See WP:NOTBROKEN about redirects. I wouldn't object to the infobox edits unless support for the parameter had recently been removed witout consensus, or the invalid parameter has content which could be moved to a valid parameter. PrimeHunter (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 13:18, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

OK. Yeah, this is trying to clean out thing like Category:Pages using infobox officeholder with unknown parameters. I think I'm OK. the grey area is if there is a no longer used parameter that still exists from when the infobox was created with a full skeleton. No effect to what is visible if it is removed, but makes it less likely a user will try to fill it in which will trigger the unknown parameter cat.Naraht (talk) 13:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Clean-up that removes an article from a maintenance cateory is a substantive change, and is explicitly allowed even by COSMETICBOT. DMacks (talk) 18:02, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

File:10 Largest Trans-Neptunian objects (TNOS).png

Hello. Please, help me in file 10 Largest Trans-Neptunian objects (TNOS).png rename 2002 MS4 to Máni. It was renamed recently, on 9 June 2025. Goodbye. Егор Затяжкин (talk) 14:40, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Try asking at Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:21, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Curly quotes

I have a problem. Wikipedia does not allow curly quotes, but I can't search a page for only curly quotes. All quote marks get highlighted. Is there a way to find them quickly? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 14:42, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Do you want to correct them? Short time ago, i had the opposite problem. Now i know this is at least partially a bot's task. See User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_41#h-Bot_changes_title_of_a_newspaper_article-20250611080900. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 15:02, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping I guess you are referring to a search feature in your browser. Which browser? In a Firefox search I can click a box to match diacritics which works here. Our default edit interface has its own search feature: Click "Advanced" above the edit area and then a magnifying glass icon to the right. This does distinguish between the characters and also has a find-and-replace option. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:00, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Very useful Firefox tip. Even better, it works! I'll be using that a lot. Thanks. ―Mandruss ☎ IMO. 06:27, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Feedback

Please give me some feedback on my article on Simple English Wikipedia. simple:Raphael (given name). Rafael Hello! 15:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:PING this is the help desk for en Wikipedia, you can ask for help about Simple Wikipedia at Simple:Wikipedia:Simple talk. TSventon (talk) 15:10, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

confused

It is at least as difficult navigating Wikipedia as it is creating the article I am working on. Here's where I need help: 1) How do I find "my page" , "my personal sandbox"? I wrote something, hit the publish button, buy O don't know where to find what I wrote so I can continue working on other. Last question, is there anyone I can call who can walk me through some of these steps? SWJeff1750 (talk) 15:06, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

You edited your user page, User:SWJeff1750, which is not article space or space to draft an article, but a place for the account operator to tell about themselves as a Wikipedia user. New accounts cannot directly create articles and need to use the Article Wizard. You may also wish to read Referencing for beginners so you can source the information you are providing. 331dot (talk) 15:08, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I have placed some introductory information on your user talk page, User talk:SWJeff1750. 331dot (talk) 15:09, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

@SWJeff1750 If you are signed in, you should see your name at the top of every page. This is a link to your user page Nearby you will see a link to your sandbox. Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:10, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

@SWJeff1750 If you're looking for something you edited, look at your contributions, which are linked to in a drop down menu at the top right. I also recommend you use the vector 2010 skin rather than the default vector 2022 skin, as this will make navigation way easier. You can change this in your preferences. Cremastra (talk) 22:43, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Creating a new page

I’m a new editor on Wikipedia and have recently created a draft for a new article about a female scientist named Ellen Enkel. All the information in my draft is backed by reliable sources and properly cited for verification. However, I am unable to publish the page, as the system indicates that only a user with a different username is allowed to create a page for this person. I’m unsure why this restriction exists. I have already contacted the mentioned user via their talk page, but I have not received any response. Could you please advise me on how to proceed? Is there a way to request permission or have the draft reviewed by another editor? Thank you very much for your help! Yassin0709 (talk) 16:14, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

New accounts cannot directly create articles, please use the Article Wizard to create and submit a draft. 331dot (talk) 16:23, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

@Yassin0709 Also, I don't see any draft article saved from your account. please could you provide a link to it if you did indeed create it somewhere from an IP address. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

It's in the filter log, I don't think they actually published it. 331dot (talk) 16:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping You tried to create it in the wrong place. The message was about the place, not the person you wrote about. You can use Wikipedia:Articles for creation which will automatically direct you to the right place. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:50, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you!!! Yassin0709 (talk) 18:20, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

question about accuracy on a wikepedia page

Hello - I work at PEOPLE and just looked at our wikipedia page and it's extremely inaccurate. These stats are from YEARS ago. How do you go about making sure that your users have correct information? Just curious because it seems odd that I can't edit it when these new stats are public figures. Thanks for your help. 209.251.198.254 (talk) 17:20, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

You are welcome to make a formal edit request (click for instructions, or use the edit request wizard) on the article talk page, Talk:People (magazine). You will need to clearly disclose that you are employed by people; this would be easier to do with an account, where you could make the formal paid editing disclosure on your user page, but even if you choose not to create an account, please disclose as you did here. 331dot (talk) 17:28, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

We have several things called People (disambiguation) but from your New York IP address I also guess you refer to People (magazine). The article is semi-protected due to persistent vandalism. You can click the "View source" tab and use a button to post an edit request. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:37, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Also, note that stats whose dates are specified are not 'inaccurate', even if they are outdated. They are correct for those dates; updating them depends on (a) newer stats having being published in a reliable source, and (b) someone entering them into the article and correctly citing them to that source.

Ordinarily, even someone like yourself with a Conflict of interest, provided they have disclosed their Paid editor status on their User page and/or the Article, would be allowed to make such uncontroversial edits, but because of the vandalism mentioned above, the page has had to be protected – after all, how do we know that you, an anonymous IP, are really an honest People employee and not a vandal? (Plausible but false figures are a popular form of vandalism because they are so hard to spot.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.41.216 (talk) 18:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

My Wikipedia searches return in numerous languages, but not English, how do I fix this.

My Wikipedia searches return in numerous languages, but not English, how do I fix this. 47.54.20.23 (talk) 18:35, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Are you searching at https://www.wikipedia.org? It has a language selector at the right of the search box. The English Wikipedia is here at https://en.wikipedia.org where all searches should automatically be in English. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:14, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

If you are searching for a topic that exists on Wikipedias in other languages, but not English, then the search feature may show those as results.

What are you searching for? Have you tried searching for something that does have an article on the English Wikipedia, like "Cat"?

What language setting is your device using?

Have you tried creating an account, and if so, does the problem persist when you are logged in? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:45, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Remove old redirects

Hi. There are currently three old redirects to a page which are of no need now. How to have them deleted formally? Thank you! M. Billoo 20:54, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping you can request this at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion, but I don't know whether they would be deleted. TSventon (talk) 21:21, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Page deletion for actor Brian Guest?

Hi. I clicked on a movie title "Stonerville" and noticed that actor Brian Guest's page was deleted. How do I get that back up and running? Thank you, RHL RHL2025 (talk) 21:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Brian Guest was deleted according to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian Guest. If something has changed since then and he is now notable, you can use the Article Wizard to create and submit a draft. 331dot (talk) 21:15, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

@RHL2025 I would add to what 331dot said above to note that the Brian Guest who the deleted article was about is a Canadian politician, and is likely a different person than the American actor who was in Stonerville. Brian Guest the actor does not appear to have ever had an article written by him.

In order to support an article, you need to be able to find multiple reliable sources that are about the topic of the article, and are independant, meaning they were not written by or at the direction of the (in this case) person or anyone who works for them. All of the information in the article must come from these sources and you need to cite which information came from which source. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 22:02, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Ancestry DNA

I did my ancestry through Ancestry DNA very confusing and missing most of my fathers information. Any suggestions? Simien 1948 (talk) 21:36, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

This isn't a general help desk; you should ask Ancestry directly about issues that you have with them. 331dot (talk) 21:55, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Are DEV and Forem ency?

I want to create an article about dev.to and forem. DEV is one of the biggest community of developers over the internet. It's build on Forem that is like a forum. So a question are those topic ency. I was searching for article about it to create a link on Polish article about Markdown as an example of project that use it, and was not able to find it. jcubic (talk) 22:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

jcubic, I suppose that you're asking whether dev.to and forem are of encyclopedia-article-worthy significance. I don't know. Nothing you write shows that either is. Please read and digest WP:42, and, using Google or similar, gauge how notable either subject is (notable and notability having their rather odd, Wikipedia-defined meanings). -- Hoary (talk) 01:12, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

@Hoary Thanks, I think that I will just create one article for DEV.to and we will see. I found a few references about the community, maybe it will be enough. jcubic (talk) 10:12, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Help with a citation

I recently found a report from the Canadian government as a source article, and can't figure out how to organize it. I ended up with this:

"A proposed Electoral Map for New Brunswick", Preliminary Report of the Electoral Boundaries and Representation Commission. November, 2005. https://www.legnb.ca/content/legislature/publications/2005-11-21%20Preliminary%20Report%20of%20the%20Electoral%20Boundaries%20and%20Representation%20Commission.pdf

Is there a better way I could've cited it? I'm not used to doing reports Sock-the-guy (talk) 23:30, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Sock-the-guy, you could use Template:Cite web (which has comprehensive documentation). -- Hoary (talk) 01:06, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

How to join basketball team

Hey there I know how to play basketball very will but I don’t know how to become a professional player can you tell me how to join and what’s the requirements Babi21 y o (talk) 01:32, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

@Babi21 y o Wikipedia is likely not the place to help you with your question. You could try posting at the reference desk, but I would recommend consulting your options for local teams directly via a Google search. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 01:40, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Requesting copy of deleted draft article

Hello! I recently submitted a draft page titled User:FluxGen/sandbox, which was deleted under G11 (promotional content) on June 10, 2025. I now understand the issue and would like to revise it according to Wikipedia’s neutral point of view and sourcing guidelines.

I have already contacted the deleting admin (Waggers) but haven’t received a reply yet. Could someone please help me get a copy of the deleted draft so I can improve and resubmit it properly?

Thank you! Rahul Upadhyay at FluxGen (talk) 07:22, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

First, if you are employed by FluxGen, that must be formally disclosed, see WP:PAID as well as WP:COI.

You wrote that the company is a "startup"; startups almost never merit aritcles. A company must be established and recognized in its field to draw the necessary coverage to merit it an article- significant coverage in independent reliable sources; coverage that goes beyond the mere reporting of its routine business activities or offerings and goes into detail about what the source sees as important/significant/influential about the company- not what the company sees as important about itself. In looking at the draft I think it would be better to just start fresh, using the Article Wizard.

What are the three absolute best sources you have? (and only three, please) 331dot (talk) 08:04, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

G11 given as a deletion reason means you're almost always going to be better off starting from scratch. Alpha3031 (t • c) 14:30, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

As Alpha3031 says, the deleted draft is unlikely to be of any use.

We get huge numbers of inexperienced editors trying to create articles about their companies. Usually, they have made the mistake of writing either what they know about the company, or else what the company wants people to know. (Sometimes these are the same thing).

Wikipedia has essentially no interest in either of those. It does not want to know what you know about the company (whoever you are). And it certainly does not want to know what the company wants to say about itself. Pretty well all that Wikipedia is interested is what some people wholly unconnected with the company have chosen to publish about the company, in reliable publications.

If hardly anybody unconnected with the company has yet published anything about it, it is TOOSOON. And if there is enough material about the company which meets WP:42, you need to forget everything you know about the company and summarise what those independent sources say.

User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst ColinFine (talk) 15:07, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Noticed racist vandalism in Language switching widget and I don't know how to fix it

I noticed a big problem, but I don't know how to fix it. I searched a topic (MacGuffin) — because I'm in France right now, it brought up the fr.wikipedia article and Chrome automatically translated it into English. I wanted to see the actual English page, so I went up "Languages" list on the MacGuffin page, and one of the suggested languages was "Al-Qaeda". Since this is a terrorist organization and not a language, I clicked on it to see what the hell it was. It brought up the Arabic page. I turned off the automated translation in Chrome, and the language suggestion for the original French page is العربية ('Arabic'), like it's supposed to be. I tried another page (Alfred Hitchcock) and observed the same behavior. To sum up: The vandalism only shows up when the French page is translated into English, not in the original French page.

This seems like it must be intentional vandalism on Wikipedia — I can't imagine any way that the Google translate in Chrome would translate "Arabic" as "Al-Qaeda". But I have no idea how the language-switching widget in Wikipedia works or how someone could have hacked it like this. Any ideas?

I took screenshots showing the behavior, but I don't think there's a way to add them here. Let me know if there's some way to do it that I don't know about. Karen McNeil (talk) 09:34, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

See WP:UPIMAGE for how to upload images. Since you took the screenshots, you are free to upload them. 331dot (talk) 09:40, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Karen McNeil, I googled 'Arabic translated Al-Qaeda chrome' and found a reddit page 'Google chrome translates the word "Arabic" into Al-Qaeda', so it is probably a Chrome issue. TSventon (talk) 10:02, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping Yes, this is done by Google Translate when it's asked to translate from French to English.[4] It doesn't happen for Arabic to English.[5] I tried several other source languages and none of them said Al-Qaeda. Hindi said Arab News.[6] I don't know Google's algorithm in such situations but it needs some work. Wikipedia cannot do anything about it – apart from not saying العربية (Arabic) in French pages but that would be an overreaction. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:36, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

I have clicked on Send feedback in google translate, but I am sure other people have already done so and the error has not yet been fixed. The moral is don't trust Google or Wikipedia to be error free. TSventon (talk) 12:53, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

I have also sent feedback. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:03, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Rules for Usernames vs userboxes

Hello! I am fairly new to Wikipedia, and was rather upset to find that there is both an anti-LGBT userbox and essay being hotly debated under “misc for deletion”. Specifically, there are several editors arguing that because Wikipedia has pro-LGBT essays, they should be able to express their “disagreement with the LGBT ideology”

It seems like having bigoted views in your username is an immediate ban, which is why I am confused that these items are being put through the normal deletion process. 173.177.179.61 (talk) 13:01, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Adam Shapiro

Your description of me is inacccurate. I have updated the description. 69.193.176.10 (talk) 13:28, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Your changes were reverted; not least because we cannot tell if you are who you say you are. Please see the advice at WP:About you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:53, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Unable to log in despite knowing the password

Since that case is not covered by Help:Logging_in, I went to this page as directed there.

A few days ago I got logged out from the mobile app, and, upon trying to log back in, I got told I had to input a verification code that had been sent to my email address. The problem is, I no longer have that email account, which I literally deleted. When I noticed that, I tried going to my profile on my desktop browser, to change the email - which doesn't work, since changing the email requires me to login, with that very same verification code. Does that mean I will be locked out of this account? Ntechs (talk) 16:32, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm afraid so. If you no longer have access to the mail, and you are not still logged in anywhere, then there is no way to recover your account. You'll need to make a new one, and you are recommended to put a note on both user pages (the old and the new) explaining that one is a successor to the other). ColinFine (talk) 16:50, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Ntechs is still logged in here. You can mail ca@wikimedia.org. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:01, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, @PrimeHunter: I missed that @Ntechs was logged in - somehow I looked at the signature and saw the figures in the time and date, and thought I was seeing an IP address! ColinFine (talk) 22:27, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Incorrect information

Sergio Gore is not from Malta, he is from Russia. 2601:246:5E00:25A0:51A9:BC1D:B6CC:EC0C (talk) 17:13, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. There seems to be considerable dispute as to whether or not Sergio Gor (note the spelling) was born in Malta. See, for example https://timesofmalta.com/article/meet-sergio-gor-the-maltese-man-heart-trump-administration.1104244 , and \https://theshiftnews.com/2025/06/18/trumps-mr-malta-may-not-be-maltese/ .

There is already a discussion on the talk page Talk:Sergio Gor, which you are welcome to join. ColinFine (talk) 17:32, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

James B. Steele wikipedia page

I am the subject of a Wikipedia page that contains at the top warning labels that the Wiki entry has problems. How can the problems ve corrected? I have read the page and do not see anything that is inaccurate but still this warning label appears. This is embarrassing to me and if I can't get this corrected I'd just as soon have the entry deleted from Wikipedia. HutchJim (talk) 17:26, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia generally will only delete a biographical article if, on consideration, the subject is judged to be non-notable (by Wikipedia's definition of Notable); the wishes of the subject are usually not considered, just as (say) the New York Times would not agree to not reporting a story merely because one of those involved didn't want it to.

Some subjects do turn out to be non-notable, because the articles about them were created when standards were laxer, or because no-one assessed them at the time – if attention is drawn to them, such articles do get deleted. However, I think it very unlikely that you, James B. Steele, would now be judged non-notable, so the article will almost certainly stay.

Articles about living (and recently dead) persons are held to higher standards of citation and verifiability than those about other subjects – see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons – and I note that there are several (in themselves innocuous) statements in the article that are uncited and probably should be removed (even if true) unless citations to published Reliable source can be added to verify them (see Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth).

Facts that are both uncited and untrue may be removed, even by the subject (who otherwise should not be editing the article – see WP:Conflict of interest and WP:Own). Cited facts (even if their sources are incorrect) should not be removed, but if contrary sources are found these may be added to give 'both sides of the story', and sources which explicate the former inaccuracy may 'trump' and replace the incorrect ones.

You (the subject) have made over 3 dozen recent (in terms of the article's history – see it's 'View history' tab) edits to the article about you (which you have been commendably open about), so that part of the notice is entirely true and of your own making. Please stop, and instead use the WP:Edit request procedure to provide suggested revisions, with Reliable sources to corroborate them, on the article's Talk page.

I think the 'résumé-like' aspect of the notice is probably less apparent than when the notice was added in January, and another editor may re-assess this aspect and remove it – you yourself should not of course do so because of your CoI (which, as you may appreciate, makes it very hard for you to maintain our core policy of WP:NPOV). In any case, this is a stylistic issue which can be addressed.

Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.192.251.148 (talk) 18:25, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping You may find the advice at WP:About you useful. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:14, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Confused links between two pages about two species of cactus

Hello. This problem mostly affects two pages: Coryphantha cornifera and Coryphantha compacta.

Yesterday, June 26th, I added the new page for the plant Coryphantha cornifera. When I went to the finished page, it was OK except that at the top the title said Corphantha compacta. I messaged my helper but this morning there was no response. I then took the code I had done for C. cornifera from the page that said it was C. compacta, and made a new page for C. cornifera with the right title. Then I made a completely new page for C. compacta, which looks OK at the above address for that species. However, now I see that when I am on the English C. compacta page and try to go to its Spanish equivalent, it goes to the C. cornifera page. I don't know if my problem yesterday affects that. I find no recent taxonomical name changes in the major authorities -- POWO and GBIF -- so there seems to be no reason to relay pages from one name to the other. The pages as they now stand look OK to me as they are; I'm just finding that problem going between English and Spanish pages, so there may be others. Thanks. Gaiacoyote (talk) 20:28, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping You created the article at the wrong title and should have moved it, not copied and replaced the content. I have used my administrator account to fix it with a history split. The links to other languages are controlled at Wikidata. See Help:Interlanguage links. I have fixed it. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:55, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks @PrimHunter. I really messed up there; still learning this stuff. I appreciate your understanding and quick involvement. I'll take a look at how to move pages, though I hope this won't happen again. Gaiacoyote (talk) 21:41, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Speedy deletion for files?

I accidently uploaded a full version of a song instead of a 30 second sample. The five minute sample is no longer in use on the article, Dead & Bloated, and is in lower quality than the original, but I'm pretty sure it's a copyright violation and I don't want people downloading it, so is there any way it can be deleted immediately? CleoCat16 (talk) 22:09, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Deleted. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:40, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! CleoCat16 (talk) 23:41, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

My Wiki Page was deleted

Can someone help me with getting my page back up on Wikipedia?

Thanks Pedro 2601:58A:8F02:88D0:5844:1F39:5486:510D (talk) 22:11, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

There's no such thing as "my page" (except, to a limited extent, the userpage of a registered user). What page are you talking about? --Orange Mike | Talk 22:15, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Hey Orange Mike i appreciate your response, didnt mean it was my page like i own it, lol, but it was about me used to have one and now noticed its not there anymore. Is everything here public meaning not a private conversation to help?

Page Pedro Power 2601:58A:8F02:88D0:5844:1F39:5486:510D (talk) 22:38, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Pedro Power was deleted according to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pedro Power. 331dot (talk) 22:57, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Most Wikipedia business is conducted on Wikipedia, for openness and transparency. Only the most sensitive personal information may be discussed privately. 331dot (talk) 22:59, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Perfect thanks for the reply, but what was mentioned is not true. Its hard to pull up detailed sources from those days, but there is still some sources that provide actual facts on my career and also as a NBA Agent. How do i provide these? 2601:58A:8F02:88D0:5844:1F39:5486:510D (talk) 23:20, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Since the article about you was deleted, there's not much you can do. While not forbidden, autobiographical articles are highly discouraged per the autobiography policy. Also know that there are very good reasons to not want an article here. Nevertheless, if you feel that you can demonstrate that you are a notable person and received significant coverage in independent reliable sources that you can summarize, you could use the Article Wizard to submit a draft. If you do, you should note on the draft talk page that you are writing about yourself. I advise against this, but that is how you can proceed. 331dot (talk) 23:29, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

If there are three sources that each meet all of the requirements of our golden rule, you can post details (as web links or bibliographic citations) here, then undeletion of the article can be considered, so that it can be updated. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:14, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Pedro. Facts on your career are not enough. Did several people, wholly unconnected with you or your clubs, choose to write in some depth about you, in reliable publications? If the answer is yes, then an article about you may be possible; if no, then no article is possible. At the time of the deletion discussion in 2019, the consensus was that no such sources (or, at least, not enough such sources) existed. ColinFine (talk) 14:05, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

link-rot fix: patents.google.com/patent

U.S. Patent 2,230,836 :

dead link:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=6ZZQAAAAEBAJ

new link:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US2230836A/en

Piñanana (talk) 10:49, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

@Piñanana You don't say which article you have found this in but a better solution is to convert the cite to use the template {{cite patent}}. This automatically creates a working link to Espacenet. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:12, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Reverb effect is which article have found this

a bot failed on http://www.google.com/patents?id=6ZZQAAAAEBAJ

search yielded https://patents.google.com/patent/US2230836A/en

how do you go from "U.S. Patent 2,230,836" to Espacenet ?

Piñanana (talk) 11:23, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Please see the documentation at Template:Tl. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:25, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

@Piñanana I've fixed it for you as I'm familiar with the template. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:50, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Broken template due to use of graph extension

The template Template:Airport-Statistics is broken due to use of the disabled graph extension. It needs to be rewritten to use the chart extension, but I don't know enough about that extension to do it myself. Is there a tag that can be applied to this template to get attention from a qualified editor? That template is used on 1,100 pages so fixing it would be a huge benefit. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 19:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

When pretty much all sources are not reliable...the curious case of Xavier Cugat

I've been working on the Xavier Cugat biography. A quite famous subject, there is a surprising dearth of reliable sources and information. Or at least the usual reliable sources (WA Post, LA Times, NY Times etc.) have proven to be error ridden and contradictory, at least the usual obituaries of the subject. Partly it is bad reporting, and partly it seems to be that Cugat self-promoted, embellished, told and repeated stories endlessly throughout his career, such that the historical record is hopelessly confused and often fiction. There are many other sources of a popular nature, given the famous subject (blogs, websites, etc) that recount facts, etc. but are similarly often in error, certainly unsourced, and, well, a little trashy; A LOT of other sources just echo material of the Wikipedia article before I got to it. Even the facts in Cugat's own two autobiographies do not seem to hold up to scrutiny. (e.g., Apparently early on, Cugat played the violin for Caruso...maybe.) The best source seems to be that by an academic Galina Bakhtiarova, who explicitly acknowledges this situation. To address the issue and warn article readers, I am contemplating including an "Editor's Note" at the end of the article's first section warning of the fluidity of the facts and contradictory sources. What do you think of this situation? What do you think of the idea of including such a disclaimer? (I've never seen such a thing in a Wikipedia article.) Bdushaw (talk) 21:19, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your work! Yes, a tricky case. There aren't usually "editors note"s within articles, but if the subject made various dubious or contradictory claims about themselves, mentioning that in the article is certainly appropriate. Longer explanations on the talk page seem a good idea. Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 22:11, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

It seems a good idea ... but on reflection, not one that's likely to succeed in the medium/long term. Some well-meaning editor is very likely to remove it; and those who think it was constructive might not quickly notice the removal, or have the energy to either defend it or to defend it so overwhelmingly as to crush the (well-meant but unsatisfactory) arguments for keeping it. But how about something on the lines of Pointing out problems such as the implausibility of Cugat's claim[reference to superficially convincing newspaper article] that he [blah blah] and the contradiction with a single study[reference to superficially academic source] in claiming that he [blah blah] despite [blah blah], Galina Bakhtiarova concludes that [damning indictment of meretricious sources on Cugat]? -- Hoary (talk) 23:56, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

While I am here...I have contemplated including the image of the Neptune's Daughter (1949 film) movie poster in the Xavier Cugat article. The image is one of "fair use", which is never quite clear to me what that means. Can the Neptune's Daughter movie poster image be included in the Xavier Cugat article? Is that a proper "fair use"? Such movie posters always include "Xavier Cugat and his Orchestra" in big letters. Thx, and thx for the above suggestions. Bdushaw (talk) 23:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

Generally no. "Fair use" are generally only used when there is no known free licensed alternative images that can illustrate a subject. They are usually used in just one article, and if used more than 1 place should have an explanation for fair use in each place used. -- Infrogmation (talk) 00:02, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

An image is not "(of) fair use". That's a category error. The use of a particular image in a particular article, if that image satsifies various conditions (irreplaceability, small pixel count, etc etc), might be a fair use. Could the use of File:Neptune's daughter poster.jpg in the article on Cugat be a fair use? Probably not, as it's not about Cugat. However, if, say, the article made a big thing of pointing out that Cugat's name was printed in as large a font as those of the stars, it might be. You'd have to add to File:Neptune's daughter poster.jpg a "fair use" rationale for this additional use. -- Hoary (talk) 00:05, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:U, I would oppose an editor's note. We simply do not address our readers in Wikipedia's voice in articles. Instead, report the discrepancies between sources and let our readers draw their own conclusions: Something like, "According to the Los Angeles Times, Cugat was paid $50,000 for his performance in the XYZ film, but the New York Times reported that it was $30,000". Galina Bakhtiarova is your friend in this venture. You cannot call Cugat a prevaricator and shameless self promoter. But she can, and you can paraphrase what she says and attribute it to her. Cullen328 (talk) 05:14, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Color-Code a 32-Seeded Bracket

hey, so i was wondering how or if someone can color code on my bracket for winners and losers.

the color code would look like this:

Key
. – Eliminated after Atlanta
. – Eliminated after Chicago
. – Eliminated after Sonoma
. – Eliminated after Dover
. – Eliminated after Indianapolis

thanks! Brycenrichter (talk) 00:22, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

This appears to be a very strange question/request, Brycenrichter. You seem to be saying that you're wondering how, or if, someone can do what you are here demonstrating. But perhaps I misunderstand. -- Hoary (talk) 08:08, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

yeah, im wondering if its even possible but basically… Brycenrichter (talk) 13:47, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Problem with an external link?

I became aware of General Aviation inc. Flight 115 when it was nominated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. I wanted to add a link to the National Transportation Safety Board's investigation of this airplane crash, but I found when I went to the NTSB's website that I could not get a "normal" link to the document -- instead, the only link that the website provided, as far as I could tell, was a link to download the PDF. [7] I realize that many users, including myself, would prefer not to download a document without warning, so I added "(Download PDF)" to the link description in the external links section. I didn't see anything prohibiting this kind of link in WP:ELNO, but if anyone knows of a more "normal" link to the document, I'd much prefer to use that instead. Can anyone find such a link? If not, is the existing "download" link acceptable? -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:19, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping Some articles use Template:Cite web#Using "format=" to say |format=PDF file, direct download, often followed by a size (search). It's not common and I haven't seen a guideline about the issue. If you found a web page with a link to the PDF then you could also link the page and use |at= at Template:Cite web#In-source locations to briefly say how to get the PDF from there. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:32, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. Unfortunately, the PDF was only accessible (as far as I could tell) from a search result, which would not have been linkable itself. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:22, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

error: cite web

what is the error?

<ref name="youtube/omkdv8gz_PM">{{cite web |author1=48south7th |publisher=San Jose Peace and Justice Center |title=Napalm Ladies |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omkdv8gz_PM |via=[[youtube]] |access-date=29 June 2025 |date=12 January 2011}}</ref>

Piñanana (talk) 04:42, 29 June 2025 (UTC) Piñanana (talk) 04:42, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

See the intro section of Category:CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list for an explanation of what triggered the error and how to resolve it. DMacks (talk) 04:47, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Spurious sfn errors

Why does African humid period suddenly throw a bunch of harv errors even though the codicils seem to match? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:13, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Picking di Lernia (2022) (permalink) as an example, someone changed the author surname in the (apparently) matching long-form citation to Di Lernia (permalink). Don't do that. Surnames and publication dates must exactly match.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:36, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

I fixed a few, but there seem to be some missing sources. Common problem with short references. DuncanHill (talk) 12:40, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Re I am working on fixing the rest. Someone has broken sources by removing the editors names used in the sfns. In others, the order of authors has been changed, but the order in the sfns hasn't been changed. I reiterate, sfn is a lousy system, 99% of the editors who like to use it haven't the faintest idea how to make it actually work. DuncanHill (talk) 12:51, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

I have now fixed them all. None were spurious, all were the result of mismatch between the source and the sfn. See here for the changes I made. DuncanHill (talk) 13:01, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

There were no Harv error messages in the 17:46, 20 June 2025 version, so it seems that the subsequent citation bot cleanups caused the current Harv error messages. Template:U, did you see the recent edit summaries? "Please install User:Trappist the monk/HarvErrors.js and watchlist Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors to help you spot such errors when reading and editing". TSventon (talk) 13:05, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

I fixed a couple of citation template errors too, by looking back to the edit TSventon linked. See here. DuncanHill (talk) 13:15, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

continuous redirect requests

There is someone named 65.93.183.249 (I don't know how to link it) who keeps on writing redirect requests on Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects. They wrote multiple synonyms about "Aptera", but they were making so many different request templates. I saw they make 5! Can you remove this? Or combine them into one template? Or anything else? Rafael Hello! 15:10, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Link is: User:65.93.183.249. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:36, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, but that's not what it is about. Rafael Hello! 15:58, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

@Rafaelthegreat That editor has been quite active creating articles through AfC, which suggests they think they know what they are doing. Their talk page at User_talk:65.93.183.249 has several messages, so you can reach them there, although they won't be alerted. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:52, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

@Rafaelthegreat I see no reason why these redirects shouldn't be requested. Someone will in due course either make them or decline them. About half the requests for redirects are declined anyway. Just let it run. Shantavira|^{feed me} 19:29, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Problem Viewing XFD Logs

I am having a problem viewing the logs of deletion discussions that have been closed in a particular way. It happens when I try to view the listing of Miscellany for Deletion via Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion. The page is briefly displayed showing the deletion discussion for Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject/Computer Programming/to do, but then the main MFD page is redisplayed, and the MFD for that page shows up in the Table of Contents, but no longer on the page itself. This also happens when viewing the RFDs for 18 June 2025, if I click on Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2025_June_18#Westlake,_Washington. After momentarily displaying all of the RFDs for the day, some of the closed RFDs disappear from the screen. Is this a misfeature, in which something is trying to help me by hiding the closed XFDs so that I don't see them? Does this also happen to everyone, or have I turned on this misfeature via a preference? Robert McClenon (talk) 16:17, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Using your final link, I see the closed discussion for Westlake Washington at the foot of the (PC) screen, but can scroll up to the many others including the one just above for Returned ticket, which is also closed. I'm using WP:Vector 2022. I have no idea what preference you might have used to suppress this. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:47, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Yes, User:Michael D. Turnbull. I see what you describe for a few seconds. Then it disappears Westlake Washington entirely, and disappears the discussion of Returned ticket except for the note that it was relisted. I am using Monobook. I will try using Vector 2022 and see what happens. I have always been using Monobook, and I know that I only have had this problem in the past few days. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:34, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

I just tried switching to Vector 2022. I still have the same problem that it causes certain closed XFDs to disappear. I don't like the appearance as much as Monobook, probably because I have always been using Monobook, so I will switch back to Monobook. The choice of skin does not appear to be what causes this. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:44, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Since I am not getting a quick answer here, I will be asking this question at Village pump technical. I don't think that asking there is forum shopping when I haven't gotten an answer from the first parent. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:31, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

page with wrong title at top redirected not moved

This deals with the pages Coryphantha delaetiana and Coryphantha delicata

I prepared the new page for Coryphantha delicata, it published OK, but the title at the top said it was C. delaetiana, not C. delicata. This happened before with another page, also a Coryphantha, where on the Coryphantha genus page at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coryphantha the species were listed alphabetically. Each time I published a new species, it appeared with the title of the species listed above it, well separated and in its own box. The first time this happened, I asked for help, it was fixed, and was told I should have moved the page. This second time, when I requested a page move, I was told "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coryphantha_delaetiana is invalid. Must create https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coryphantha_delaetiana before requesting that it be moved to Coryphantha delicata." This seems like in both instances I must have clicked on the wrong red link, but I was careful, especially the second time. Whatever the case, currently when someone clicks on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coryphantha_delaetiana page, they are redirected to my C. delicata page, which is wrong. Both species are valid and a redirection is inappropriate. Thanks for any help you can offer. #gaiacoyote Gaiacoyote (talk) 18:28, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping, I think that you are saying that Coryphantha delaetiana, a redirect created as a result of a page move, should be deleted. You could have requested that at WP:RMTR along with the move request. Template:Ping, could you request deletion under Template:Tl? TSventon (talk) 18:58, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

The redirect command should be deleted, and the Coryphantha delaetiana stage returned to its red link status. My Coryphantha delicata page which currently appears when Coryphantha delaetiana is licked on, should have the text appearing on the Coryphatha delicata page, not the Coryphatha delaetiana page. In case you have to delete my current page which appears on the Coryphantha delaetiana, I have saved the code and can try to set up the page again, though if an administrator can move the material to the C. delicata page that might be easier. Thanks to those involve. @gaiacoyote Gaiacoyote (talk) 19:24, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Template:Ping I have deleted the redirect Coryphantha delaetiana. Your code had already been moved to Coryphantha delicata when the page was moved. A move automatically does that. Your account is autoconfirmed so you could have made the move yourself. You could not have deleted the redirect but you could have tagged the redirect page for deletion with Template:Tl after the move. See Wikipedia:Redirect#How to edit a redirect or convert it into an article. "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coryphantha_delaetiana is invalid" in your move request [8] was because you entered the whole url instead of the page name "Coryphantha delaetiana". It's highly unlikely that the software creates a page at another name than you are editing. I have never heard of it. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:42, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Oh, I was late, looks like you solved this. Annh07 (talk) 20:07, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Responding to edit requests at WP:RFPP

Am I allowed to respond to edit requests at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Edit if I have sufficient permissions to edit the pages requested, or are only admins able to respond to these? Justjourney (talk | contribs) 20:34, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

If you are able to make the edits, and consider the requests are justified, then you should go ahead. Maproom (talk) 22:02, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Question

Can you review my requests on Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects? They haven't been reviewed in a long time.Rafael Hello! 23:02, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

A couple still haven't been reviewed. They're dated 29 June. If the temperature in your kitchen is 30°C, then "since yesterday" is a long time to have left your butter outside your fridge. But as they await review, redirect creation proposals don't turn into butyric acid. -- Hoary (talk) 08:44, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

I read WP:LLM, but I have a question

I read Wikipedia:Large language models, but I have a question. When will AI be helpful, but when should AI not be used? Upset New Bird (talk) 11:26, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Most of the answer would be covered in WP:LLM, specifically WP:LLMCIR. 331dot (talk) 11:30, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

@Upset New Bird Do not use AI to create an article or substantially edit an existing article. Do not use AI to find sources. I find AI can be helpful to re-write text or summarise existing content for my own understanding. qcne (talk) 17:21, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

@Qcne: I understand. AI may be used when making the content more natural and accurate (e.g. fixing grammar or context, etc.), but AI should not be used when creating a new article. Thanks for letting me know! Upset New Bird (talk) 02:49, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

@Upset New Bird, I don't think that's what Template:U is saying. What Template:They're saying (and what I would say) is that you might find it helpful to use an LLM or chatbot for your personal use only, to help summarise something you are reading. Please do not use an LLM/chatbot to either edit existing articles or create new articles. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 03:10, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

greek-genocide.net a non-reliable source?

My question is: is the website greek-genocide.net a non-reliable source? Especially in the context I used: I used a link to that website to prove that the name "Macri" is/was used as the Greek name for Fethiye. Is it correct that an anonymous editor reverted my edit? Thanks, --Dick Bos (talk) 15:36, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

It's not clear to me. I can't see anything about its staff on the website, which is a red flag. Insofar as it collects resources, they are probably reliable (though often primary); but I'm not sure that any text about them should be so regarded.

I suggest asking at WP:RSN. ColinFine (talk) 16:37, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your quick answer. I'll certainly do that! --Dick Bos (talk) 09:26, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

A more general pont, @Dick Bos: when another editor reverts your edit, the appropriate action is not to go somewhere else and ask if people agree with you, but to discuss it with the editor who reverted you (and possibly other interested editors) on the article's talk page: see WP:BRD.

Done. (my problem was that this was an anonymous editor) --Dick Bos (talk) 09:26, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

If the other editor won't engage, or you are unable to reach consensus, then further steps are outlined at WP:DR. ColinFine (talk) 17:20, 30 June 2025 (UTC)