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==Nonsense==
John White was actually very important and smart. What happened was that when he left for supplies, the rest of his group was attack and killed by an Indian tribe. I'm doing a report on him so that's how I know all this stuff.

:Give me credit for that!!!!
:Every time I put down something of value on your pages here, your server logs me out and posts whatever IP I'm on at the time instead.
:For the record, '''WB2''' is the person who wrote the following paragraph, ''infra'':
:The IP "'''207.214.244.173'''" is where he sent it from at "'''23:45, 17 August 2005'''"
::''A Bridgett White was also the second wife of a Robert Wight (1578–1617) of Hareby, [[Lincolnshire, England]] whom he married on [[November 25]], [[1613]] at [[Alford, Lincolnshire|Alford]]. As Robert was also the son of an obscure John Wight (b. abt. 1552) and the father of an Elizabeth Wighte (1606–1671) who is sometimes thought to have been the ex-wife of [[Nathaniel Eaton]] (1610–1674), the first schoolmaster of [[Harvard College]], [[Massachusetts]]; there is a strong possibility that Bridgit White, the sister of John White the Governor of Roanoke Colony, and Bridgett White, the second wife of the same above-mentioned Robert Wight, are directly related.''
:[[User:WB2|WB2]] 06:55, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
:Please correct this glitch!!!!

== Am going to change the B and D dates ==

:I don't know who did all the original references here, but its obvious to me that there have been a lot of scared "nine-to-fivers" who just simply copied, or "plagerized", off of other people and didn't do any research of their own.
:I'm going to (eventually) change this to: John White of Stanton St John ([[1540]] – before [[September 30]], [[1618]]) the son of John White and Mildred Weston, and nephew of Dr Thomas White (1514 – 1588) the Warden of [[New College, Oxford]].
:It's obvious to me that these are one and the same people.
:[[User:WB2|WB2]] 06:57, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
::Because? Its such a rare name? [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 04:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::As promised, but I'm not going to change the month and day dates as yet.
::[[User:WB2|WB2]] 03:14, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

John White was actually very important and smart. What happened was that when he left for supplies, the rest of his group was attack and killed by an indian tribe. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/97.127.31.221|97.127.31.221]] ([[User talk:97.127.31.221|talk]]) 21:29, 29 April 2009 (UTC)</span> 

== The location of Croatoan is clearly indicated on John White's own map ==
I dispute this assertion: "Croatoan was the name of a nearby island (likely modern-day Hatteras Island)".
John White's own map shows an island called Croatoan, it is coloured pink, and it appears to correlate with modern-day Ocracoke.
White's map is understandably inaccurate, to a degree, but the easternmost point of the easternmost island on his map is triangular and correlates remarkably well with the area round modern-day Buxton/Cape Hatteras.
If we orientate White's map around so that his north should actually be closer to northeast, or even east-northeast, we can see that he misconstrued the length and orientation of Hatteras Island, but he correctly positioned Croatoan/Ocracoke, which is the next island in the chain going south west from Hatteras.
I assert that the artice text should be changed to:
"Croatoan was the name of a nearby island (likely modern-day Ocracoke Island)" <small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:JonathanPeterG|JonathanPeterG]] ([[User talk:JonathanPeterG#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/JonathanPeterG|contribs]]) 15:20, 6 February 2020 (UTC)</small> 

:[[File:John White - La Virginea Pars, map of the E coast of N America from Chesapeake bay to Cape Lookout, 1906,0509.1.3.jpg|thumb|John White - La Virginea Pars, map of the E coast of N America from Chesapeake bay to Cape Lookout, 1906,0509.1.3]]
:Adding White's map, and a link to the modern town of [[Ocracoke, North Carolina]] and [[Ocracoke Inlet]]. Need an expert to weigh in on "Croatoan" situation. [[User:Steveprutz|StevePrutz]] ([[User talk:Steveprutz|talk]]) 12:05, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

== Year of death ==

White's year of death is unclear, as some sources give his death year as 1593 OR 1606, and furthering the uncertainty many of those sources say "circa" X-year. How should we handle the infobox and introducing paragraph? Should we just leave it as is (e.g, c. 1593)? [[User:Historyobsessor|Historyobsessor]] ([[User talk:Historyobsessor|talk]]) 02:53, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Talk:John White (colonist and artist) - Revision history

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