http://debianws.lexgopc.com/wiki143/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ADependent_variableTalk:Dependent variable - Revision history2026-05-14T17:22:34ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.43.1http://debianws.lexgopc.com/wiki143/index.php?title=Talk:Dependent_variable&diff=889210&oldid=previmported>Michael Hardy at 22:45, 9 March 20072007-03-09T22:45:02Z<p></p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>If <math>f(x)=y</math> then y is the dependent variable. -[unsigned by [[Special:Contributions/204.50.150.168|204.50.150.168]] at 11:43, 22 October 2004]<br />
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Regarding the first sentence: "In [[design of experiments|experimental design]], a '''dependent variable''' is a [[variable]] dependent on another variable (called the [[independent variable]])". I think trying to define one item by using a word of the item in question makes it unclear. E.g. "a '''dependent variable''' is a variable '''''dependent''''' on another variable..." It might be best to use another word other than '''''dependent''''' to make it a bit more understandable. Just my $0.02. -[[User:Therearenospoons|therearenospoons]] 02:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:The definition is obviously tautological. Two other definitions were used in earlier versions of this article, and neither of them had this problem. Why not return to one of them? They were:<br />
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:* a variable whose values in different treatment conditions are compared<br />
:* a variable which is not manipulated by an experimenter<br />
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:[[User:John FitzGerald|John FitzGerald]] 19:40, 20 March 2006 (UTC)<br />
:Response variable is the more common term. Dependent has fallen into disuse, because dependent and independent already have assigned meanings in statistics.--[[User:Theblackgecko|Theblackgecko]] 22:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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A Google search for combinations of ''dependent variablee'' and ''experimental design'' produced 285,000 hits, while a similar search with ''response variable'' sunstituted for ''dependent variable'' produced only 71,000, so ''dependent variable'' doesn't seem to have fallen into disuse. If you could qualify the assertion (for example, among whom has it fallen into disuse?) and add the other meaning of dependent variable to the article that would be helpful. [[User:John FitzGerald|John FitzGerald]] 03:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Looks like there is some confusion from the overlap of the usage of dependent variables by statistics and in experiments. Would it be better to split this article in two? [[User:Littlepinkpig|Littlepinkpig]] 00:37, 22 September 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Saving this text because it is useful, but not immediately relevant to the article. Perhaps it could be a "see also" item, or integrated into an existing page. [[User:LightYear|LightYear]] 05:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
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<blockquote>There are also continuous variables, for example if you were timing the beetroot experiment, time would be a continuous variable because it is never going to change, regardless of other variables.</blockquote><br />
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In the first paragraph:<br />
:''In analysis, researchers usually want to explain why the dependent variable has a given value''<br />
Perhaps it would make sense to change this to:<br />
:''In analysis, researchers usually want to explain why the dependent variable has '''an observed''' value''<br />
Thoughts? [[User:Lbthrice|Lbthrice]] 03:16, 28 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
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: Good suggestion, but perhaps '''''a certain''' value'' is better, since in analysis, as apposed to physical science, there may be no guarantee that the dependent variable has been ''observed'' as such. Perhaps it was calculated, suggested, reported or otherwise came about. --[[User:LightYear|LightYear]] 01:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
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See [[talk:independent variable]]. [[User:Michael Hardy|Michael Hardy]] 22:45, 9 March 2007 (UTC)</div>imported>Michael Hardy