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{{Short description|English footballer (1877–1925)}}
{{for|the American keyboard player|Archie Turner (musician)}}
{{EngvarB|date=February 2019}}
{{Use dmy dates|date=February 2019}}
{{Infobox football biography
| name = Archie Turner
| image =
| fullname = Arthur Turner
| height = {{height|ft=5|in=8}}<ref name="englandfootballonline" />
| birth_date = June 1877
| birth_place = [[Hartley Wintney]], England
| death_date = {{death date and age|1925|4|4|1877|6|1|df=y}}<ref name="englandfootballonline" />
| death_place = [[Farnborough, Hampshire|Farnborough]], England
| position = [[Outside right]]
| youthyears1 = 1892–1894
| youthclubs1 = Aldershot North End
| youthyears2 = 1894–1898
| youthclubs2 = South Farnborough
| youthyears3 = 1898–1899
| youthclubs3 = [[Camberley Town F.C.|St. Michael's, Camberley]]
| years1 = 1899–1902
| clubs1 = [[Southampton F.C.|Southampton]]
| caps1 = 65
| goals1 = 23
| years2 = 1902–1903
| clubs2 = [[Derby County F.C.|Derby County]]
| caps2 = 21
| goals2 = 1
| years3 = 1903–1904
| clubs3 = [[Newcastle United F.C.|Newcastle United]]
| caps3 = 13
| goals3 = 1
| years4 = 1904
| clubs4 = [[Tottenham Hotspur F.C.|Tottenham Hotspur]]
| caps4 = 6
| goals4 = 5
| years5 = 1904–1905
| clubs5 = [[Southampton F.C.|Southampton]]
| caps5 = 13
| goals5 = 1
| years7 = 1905–1914(?)
| clubs7 = [[South Farnborough Athletic F.C.|South Farnborough Athletic]]
| caps7 =
| goals7 =
| nationalyears1 = 1900–1901
| nationalteam1 = [[England national football team|England]]
| nationalcaps1 = 2
| nationalgoals1 = 0
}}
'''Arthur''' "'''Archie'''" '''Turner''' (June 1877 – 4 April 1925){{sfn|Chalk|Holley|2013|p=191}} was a professional [[association football|footballer]] who played at [[outside-right]] in the [[1900 FA Cup Final|1900]] and [[1902 FA Cup Final]]s for [[Southampton F.C.|Southampton]], and made two appearances for [[England national football team|England]].

==Playing career==
Archie Turner was born in [[Hartley Wintney]] and began his professional career with Aldershot North End, before playing for South Farnborough and [[Camberley Town F.C.|St. Michael's, Camberley]].<ref name="englandfootballonline">{{Cite web |url=http://www.englandfootballonline.com/TeamPlyrsBios/PlayersT/BioTurnerA.html |title=England Players – Arthur Turner |website=www.englandfootballonline.com |accessdate=15 February 2019}}</ref> He had trials with [[Brentford F.C.|Brentford]] and [[Reading F.C.|Reading]] before he was snapped up in May 1899 by Southampton who had just claimed the [[Southern Football League|Southern League]] championship for the third consecutive year.

In his first season at [[The Dell (Southampton F.C.)|The Dell]], Saints only managed third place in the league, but reached the FA cup final for the first time in their history. Unfortunately for Turner, the [[FA Cup Final 1900|Cup Final]] was a great disappointment as Saints were swept aside 4–0 by [[Bury F.C.|Bury]].<ref name=11v11>{{Cite web |url=https://www.11v11.com/players/archie-turner-48373/ |title=Archie Turner |website=11v11.com |accessdate=15 February 2019}}</ref> Turner was the only [[Hampshire]] born player to appear in Saints FA Cup final team. He also achieved the then unique distinction of being called up for [[England national football team|England]] in his first season in first-class football against [[Ireland national football team (IFA)|Ireland]], also becoming the first Hampshire-born player to represent England.

His rapid rise to prominence made him a target for opposing full-backs and he received some rough treatment. Despite this, he continued to produce exciting wing play down the right-hand side. According to Holley & Chalk's ''The Alphabet of the Saints'', "''he was a master of delivering accurate centres; if he had a fault it was a reluctance to shoot, preferring instead to find a colleague who perhaps would not be in such a promising position''."{{sfn|Holley|Chalk|1992|p=339}}

In his second season at The Dell, 1900–01, Saints once again took the Southern League title, with [[Edgar Chadwick]] top-scorer with 14 goals. The 1901–02 season followed a similar pattern to 1899–1900 with Saints finishing in third place and reaching their second [[FA Cup Final 1902|FA Cup final]], losing to [[Sheffield United F.C.|Sheffield United]] after a replay.

In the summer of 1902, he was tempted to join [[Derby County F.C.|Derby County]] where he played alongside the famous England inside-right [[Steve Bloomer]]. His sojourn at Derby was not a success and he moved on to [[Newcastle United F.C.|Newcastle United]] in January 1903 and then briefly to [[Tottenham Hotspur F.C.|Tottenham Hotspur]] in February 1904, before returning to Southampton in the summer of 1904.<ref name="englandfootballonline" /> By now his career was nearly over and he only made 13 appearances in [[Southern Football League 1904-05|the 1904–05 season]],<ref name=11v11 /> with [[Charles Webb (footballer)|Charles Webb]] competing with him for the No.7 shirt.

He quit the professional game at the end of the season and returned to his home town of [[Farnborough, Hampshire|Farnborough]], where he played football and cricket for the [[South Farnborough Athletic F.C.|South Farnborough Athletic]] club probably up to the Great War, leading them into the [[Southern Football League|Southern League]] in 1909. He also joined his family's business in Farnborough, where he died in April 1925.<ref name="englandfootballonline" />

His brother, [[Harry Turner (footballer)|Harry Turner]], also played for Southampton, between December 1903 and January 1905.

==Career statistics==
===Club===
{| class=wikitable style="text-align:center"
|+ Appearances and goals by club, season and competition
|-
!rowspan=2|Club
!rowspan=2|Season
!colspan=3|League
!colspan=2|[[FA Cup]]
!colspan=2|Total
|-
!Division!!Apps!!Goals!!Apps!!Goals!!Apps!!Goals
|-
|rowspan=4|[[Southampton F.C.|Southampton]]
|[[1899–1900 Southampton F.C. season|1899–1900]]{{sfn|Chalk|Holley|1987|pp=26–27}}
|[[Southern Football League|Southern League]]
|20||7||6||3||26||10
|-
|[[1900–01 Southampton F.C. season|1900–01]]{{sfn|Chalk|Holley|1987|pp=28–29}}
|Southern League
|20||7||1||0||21||7
|-
|[[1901–02 Southampton F.C. season|1901–02]]{{sfn|Chalk|Holley|1987|pp=30–31}}
|Southern League
|25||9||8||3||33||12
|-
!colspan=2|Total
!65!!23!!15!!6!!80!!29
|-
|[[Derby County F.C.|Derby County]]
|[[1902–03 Football League|1902–03]]<ref name=11v11 />
|[[Football League First Division|First Division]]
|21||1||0||0||21||1
|-
|rowspan=3|[[Newcastle United F.C.|Newcastle United]]
|1902–03<ref name=11v11 />
|First Division
|12||1||0||0||12||1
|-
|[[1903–04 Football League|1903–04]]<ref name=11v11 />
|First Division
|1||0||0||0||1||0
|-
!colspan=2|Total
!13!!1!!0!!0!!13!!1
|-
|[[Tottenham Hotspur F.C.|Tottenham Hotspur]]
|[[1903–04 Southern Football League|1903–04]]<ref name=11v11 />
|Southern League
|6||5||0||0||6||5
|-
|Southampton
|[[1904–05 Southern Football League|1904–05]]{{sfn|Chalk|Holley|1987|pp=36–37}}
|Southern League
|13||1||0||0||13||1
|-
!colspan=3|Career total
!118!!31!!15!!6!!133!!37
|}

==Honours==
'''Southampton'''
*[[Southern Football League|Southern League First Division]]: [[1900–01 Southampton F.C. season|1900–01]]<ref name="englandfootballonline" />
* [[FA Cup]] finalist: [[FA Cup Final 1900|1900]], [[FA Cup Final 1902|1902]]<ref name="englandfootballonline" />

'''England'''
* [[British Home Championship]]: [[1900–01 British Home Championship|1900–01]]<ref name="englandfootballonline" />

==References==
{{reflist}}

==Bibliography==
*{{cite book |last1= Chalk|first1= Gary|last2=Holley|first2= Duncan | title=Saints – A complete record| publisher= Breedon Books|year=1987|isbn= 0-907969-22-4}}
*{{cite book|last1=Chalk|first1=Gary|last2=Holley|first2=Duncan|last3=Bull|first3=David|title=All the Saints: A Complete Players' Who's Who of Southampton FC|year=2013|location=Southampton|publisher=Hagiology Publishing|isbn=978-0-9926-8640-6 |ref={{SfnRef|Chalk|Holley|2013}}}}
*{{cite book | title=The Alphabet of the Saints|last= Holley |first= Duncan |author2= Chalk, Gary| publisher= ACL & Polar Publishing |year=1992|isbn=0-9514862-3-3|ref={{SfnRef|Holley|Chalk|1992}}}}

==External links==
*{{Englandstats}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Turner, Archie}}
[[Category:1877 births]]
[[Category:1925 deaths]]
[[Category:People from Hartley Wintney]]
[[Category:English men's footballers]]
[[Category:England men's international footballers]]
[[Category:Men's association football outside forwards]]
[[Category:Camberley Town F.C. players]]
[[Category:Southampton F.C. players]]
[[Category:Derby County F.C. players]]
[[Category:Newcastle United F.C. players]]
[[Category:Tottenham Hotspur F.C. players]]
[[Category:South Farnborough Athletic F.C. players]]
[[Category:Southern Football League players]]
[[Category:English Football League players]]
[[Category:Footballers from Hampshire]]

Archie Turner - Revision history

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