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*<big>[[/Archive 1]]</big>
*[[/Archive 1#Standardization efforts]] (original concerns expressed by [[User:M|M]])
*[[/Archive 1#More AlMac Comments]] (many comments on the subject of usability)
*[[/Archive 1#Difference]] (between usability and accessibility)
*<big>[[/Archive 2]]</big>
*<big>[[/Archive 3]]</big>
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==Discussion at [[Template talk:Title notice#Proposed revision to make this notice less disruptive]]==
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==Discussion at [[Template talk:Moved discussion to#Hiding the discussion at the source page]]==
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==Wikimedia Movement Strategy Recommendations include some usability aspects==
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== FYI: New WMF Growth Team features ==
{{FYI}} Sharing a request for feedback made by {{ping|MMiller (WMF)}} of the [[mw:Growth|WMF Growth team]], who is working on features to increase new editor retention: {{tq2|

[[File:Screen_shot_of_suggested_edits_module_in_Czech_Wikipedia_2020-03-20.png|alt=|thumb|Screenshot of suggested edits module in Czech Wikipedia]]
Over the last year or so, the Growth team has been piloting features in small Wikipedias meant to increase productive edits from newcomers (such as the "suggested edits module" shown here).  As our features become more developed, we're planning on expanding to larger wikis, and so I created [[Wikipedia:Growth Team features|this project page]] on English Wikipedia, looking to gather thoughts from English Wikipedians who think about new editors.  I hope some of you can check out that page and leave any of your thoughts on [[Wikipedia talk:Growth Team features|the talk page]], so that as we think about deploying features to bigger wikis, we'll take your ideas and concerns into account.

The latest idea we're thinking about is called "[[mw:Growth/Personalized_first_day/Structured_tasks|structured tasks]]".  The idea builds on our previous work of task recommendations for newcomers, but is geared toward breaking down simple editing workflows (like copyediting or adding wikilinks) into steps that are easy for newcomers to accomplish, potentially assisted by algorithms.  We are asking for thoughts and opinions on the project [[mw:Talk:Growth/Personalized_first_day/Structured_tasks|here on the talk page]].  I hope to see some of you in the conversation! -- [[User:MMiller (WMF)|MMiller (WMF)]] ([[User talk:MMiller (WMF)|talk]]) 01:18, 19 May 2020 (UTC)"
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Cheers, <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 21:06, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

== Page histories ==

One of the least user-friendly areas of Wikipedia is the page histories. I assume that this is controlled to a large extent by more global interface stuff. Does anyone know where we might be able to go to discuss improving it? <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 22:48, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
:{{re|Sdkb}} Yes, it's part of the MW core software, though it can be customised lightly via [[Wikipedia:User_scripts/List#History|user scripts]]. What would you want changed in there? – [[User:SD0001|<span style="font-weight: bold; color: green">SD0001</span>]] ([[User talk:SD0001|talk]]) 08:03, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
::{{u|SD0001}}, it really needs a top-to-bottom overhaul. The whole using the circular buttons to find revisions to compare thing is not intuitive at all, nor is "prev" and "cur". <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 02:21, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
:::{{re|Sdkb}} Late but have you tried out [[User:Yair_rand/HistoryView.js]]? IMO it's overkill as it changes literally everything, but something to think about. – [[User:SD0001|<span style="font-weight: bold; color: green">SD0001</span>]] ([[User talk:SD0001|talk]]) 11:45, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
::::{{u|SD0001}}, hmm, that's interesting; thanks for the link! Thinking about this, it's really something that'd probably best be handled by the WMF, so maybe the route to go is asking for it from them. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 21:51, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

== 'Request an article' wizard ==

For anyone who would like to join in, here's a [[User:BessieMaelstrom/RAAW|discussion / whiteboard]] for sketching out a simple, accessible 'Request an article' wizard. -- [[User:BessieMaelstrom|BessieMaelstrom]] ([[User talk:BessieMaelstrom|talk]]) 11:14, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

== WMF blog post of interest ==

Hello all! The WMF has a [https://medium.com/wikimediadesign/is-it-possible-to-improve-user-experience-on-wikipedia-while-including-everyone-absolutely-38e821e000ef new blog post] that may be of interest. Cheers, <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 00:00, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

==RfC on flat design at VPR==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)/Archive 32#Better designating the reader-facing and editor-facing areas of Wikipedia|Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) §&nbsp;Better designating the reader-facing and editor-facing areas of Wikipedia]]==
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== Article discussion needing input regarding layout and accessibility  ==

Hello, there is a discussion at [[Talk:Central Business District, Los Angeles (1880s-1890s)]] regarding an unusual content layout that could use some input regarding accessibility. Thanks for everyone that might have suggestions. <span style="font-family:Courier New, Courier, monospace;"><strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;//&nbsp;[[User:TimothyBlue|Timothy]]&nbsp;::&nbsp;</strong>[[User talk:TimothyBlue|<strong>talk</strong>]]&nbsp;</span> 19:58, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)/Archive 32#Modified table of contents|Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) §&nbsp;Modified table of contents]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Template talk:High-use#Formatting tweak|Template talk:High-use §&nbsp;Formatting tweak]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#JavaScript help needed for file upload wizard|Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) §&nbsp;JavaScript help needed for file upload wizard]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Help talk:Contents#Small addition|Help talk:Contents §&nbsp;Small addition]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Move good/featured article topicons next to article name|Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) §&nbsp;Move good/featured article topicons next to article name]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop/Archive/Sep 2021#Good article and featured article topicon redesign|Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop §&nbsp;Good article and featured article topicon redesign]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Redesigning the good article and featured article topicons|Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) §&nbsp;Redesigning the good article and featured article topicons]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia talk:File Upload Wizard#Redesign of first page|Wikipedia talk:File Upload Wizard §&nbsp;Redesign of first page]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Make links to disambiguation pages orange by default|Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) §&nbsp;Make links to disambiguation pages orange by default]]==
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==Limited number of skin choices==
Does anyone else feel constrained by the limited number of skin choices available here?  I just counted five, six if you count both Vector and Legacy Vector.  All of them are traditional black text on white background.  I'm a fan of [[Mediawikiwiki:Skin:DarkVector]] and have helped develop it a little.  Is there some reason we can't have access to ten or fifteen skins?  What would it hurt? [[User:Flounder ceo|Flounder ceo]] ([[User talk:Flounder ceo|talk]]) 16:44, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
:The more skins there are, the more complexity there is and the more work it is to maintain everything. What I'd like to see is not more skins but just ''better'' skins—the old ones imo are truly awful and it'd be much nicer to see options like Dark Vector or others based around Vector with some minor style or color tweaks. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 18:48, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
::I wouldn't miss Modern if it went away but I've met some people who like it.  Except for Vector and MinervaNeue, I think most skins are maintained by volunteers. [[User:Flounder ceo|Flounder ceo]] ([[User talk:Flounder ceo|talk]]) 19:07, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)/Archive 34#Thinking about a radical reduction of talk page banners|Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) §&nbsp;Thinking about a radical reduction of talk page banners]]==
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==Community wishlist proposal to make editnotices visible on mobile==
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== RfC: Visual changes to the new article editnotice ==

This RfC concerns [[MediaWiki:Newarticletext]], the default [[WP:Editnotice|edit notice]] shown when someone is creating a new page. Should it be changed as shown? <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 09:03, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

When appearing in article space, it currently looks like this:
{{fmbox
  | type  = editnotice
  | id    = newarticletext
  | image = none
  | text  = <ul class="plainlinks"><li>'''''Before creating an article, please read [[Wikipedia:Your first article]]. We recommend that new editors use the [[WP:Article wizard|Article wizard]].'''''</li>
<li>You can also [[Special:Search/{{PAGENAME}}|search]] for an existing article to which you can [[Help:redirect|redirect]] this title.</li>
<li>When creating an article, '''provide [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|references]]''' to [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources|reliable published sources]]. An article without references, especially a [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|biography of a living person]], may be deleted.</li>
<li>You can also start your new article at [{{fullurl:Special:Mypage/{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit&preload=Template:Article_wizard/userpageskeleton&editintro=Wikipedia:Article_wizard/Wizard-New_edit_instructions_userdraft}} Special:Mypage/{{PAGENAME}}]. There, you can develop the article with less risk of deletion, ask other editors to help work on it, and [[Help:Moving a page|move]] it into "[[Wikipedia:Main namespace|article space]]" when it is ready.</li>
</ul>
  }}

I [[MediaWiki_talk:Newarticletext#Protected_edit_request_on_22_December_2020|proposed]] a visual change, which was briefly implemented and then undone when an editor objected, so I am seeking further community input. Should we change the notice to look like this? (The color and icon are modified, but the text is not.)
{{fmbox
  | type  = editnotice
  | id    = newarticletext
  | style = background-color: #eaf8f4; border: 2px solid #008560;
  | text  = <ul class="plainlinks"><li>'''''Before creating an article, please read [[Wikipedia:Your first article]]. We recommend that new editors use the [[WP:Article wizard|Article wizard]].'''''</li>
<li>You can also [[Special:Search/{{PAGENAME}}|search]] for an existing article to which you can [[Help:redirect|redirect]] this title.</li>
<li>When creating an article, '''provide [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|references]]''' to [[Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources|reliable published sources]]. An article without references, especially a [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|biography of a living person]], may be deleted.</li>
<li>You can also start your new article at [{{fullurl:Special:Mypage/{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit&preload=Template:Article_wizard/userpageskeleton&editintro=Wikipedia:Article_wizard/Wizard-New_edit_instructions_userdraft}} Special:Mypage/{{PAGENAME}}]. There, you can develop the article with less risk of deletion, ask other editors to help work on it, and [[Help:Moving a page|move]] it into "[[Wikipedia:Main namespace|article space]]" when it is ready.</li>
</ul>
  }}
This proposal would not change the appearance of the notice for talk pages or other namespaces.
<span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 20:44, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

===Survey===
*'''Support''' as nom. This notice is quite important and something we very much want editors to read, but its current plain white format doesn't draw any attention to it. Both the color change and restoring the icon will help make it more noticeable. I chose green because, to the extent Wikipedia has a style system, it seems to be the color used for friendly information and instructions, as at {{tl|doc}} or {{tl|instruction editnotice}}. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 20:44, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
*'''opppose''' changing the color per my previous comments at the talk page. It's incredibly distracting, particularly for experienced editors who don't need a glaring reminder and perhaps it's the cynic in me but I don't think that most people will pay attention just because of the color, considering they don't pay attention to most of the bright red notices. It's almost unfriendly (I know, ironic I am saying that). I would not be opposed to this if we could basically automatically opt-out extended confirmed+ editors since this isn't targeted toward anyone but newbies. PS: If it ain't broke don't fix it. {{wink}} [[User:Praxidicae|<span style="color:#9FA91F;font-size:11px">GRINCHIDICAE🎄</span>]] 20:49, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
::Sorry, I should clarify, I have no opposition to the message or text, just the obnoxious color that makes new page creation distracting. [[User:Praxidicae|<span style="color:#9FA91F;font-size:11px">GRINCHIDICAE🎄</span>]] 20:51, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
:::{{u|Praxidicae}}, I'd be fine with limiting the more noticeable coloring/icon to non-extended confirmed editors. To do that, we'd need to add a bit of code to a back-end CSS page, which would allow us to hide wikitext from non-EC editors. That missing bit of code actually [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_186#Hiding_content_from_extended-confirmed_users|came up a week ago]] in an entirely different circumstance, and a request to interface admins to add it [[MediaWiki_talk:Common.css#Interface-protected_edit_request_on_15_December_2020|is pending here]]. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 23:13, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
*'''Hmm''' Personally, I didn't notice it had changed. Agree with Sdkb that we want newbs to see it, read it and take note; agree with Grinchy-Prax that changes like that can be jarring for experienced editors. Would keeping the icon but ditching the background colour be a reasonable compromise? (FWIW, I find the spelling 'color' more jarring than the actual change in colour we're talking about :P) [[User:Girth Summit|<span style="font-family:Impact;color:#006400;">Girth</span><span style="font-family:Impact;color:#4B0082;">Summit</span>]][[User talk:Girth Summit|<sub style="font-family:Segoe print;color:blue;"> (blether)</sub>]] 20:57, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
*'''Weak support'''. It looks like a small improvement to me, but I'm not sure how effective would it be. Anbyway, {{u|Sdkb}}: you may want to announce this RfC at the village pump. It wouldn't be the first time that the outcome of an RfC is fully dismissed by other editors because it was done at a WikiProject. --[[User:MarioGom|MarioGom]] ([[User talk:MarioGom|talk]]) 09:10, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
* If we were to use ambox colors (not necessarily design), I'd say that this is actually a Blue Notice rather than a green (which isn't implemented in that system, so that's one point against green). --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 06:30, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
*'''Some comments''', mostly about accessibility. Is there anything that demonstrates that many new editors ''aren't'' paying attention to the original version? Possibly this is a solution for a problem which doesn't exist (I don't mean this as a criticism, I'm simply well aware that brains absolutely love to make solutions). Next thing, I checked these two on web version, the original is very hard to distinguish from any surrounding text, so the border present in the green version is preferable there.Also, I checked this on a couple colourblind simulators, and it seems good to go (although I'm not certain if the green bg and blue links is an issue for dyslexia). Although I also have ADHD, I personally don't have the same issues with disruptive colours that Praxidicae has; however, given the wide range of experiences w/ ADHD, that's not super surprising. Regardless, it has been raised as an ADHD accessibility barrier, which should be taken seriously. I want to note as well that some people with autism may also be thrown off by strong colours I'm not sure how each of these would get read out by a [[screen reader]], but if one is less long/has less irrelevant things that will be read out, then that would be preferable. I would '''support if''' the above idea where more experienced editors aren't shown the colour is used. --[[User:Xurizuri|Xurizuri]] ([[User talk:Xurizuri|talk]]) 09:58, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
*:asked someone with dyslexia, they found the green one noticeably harder to read --[[User:Xurizuri|Xurizuri]] ([[User talk:Xurizuri|talk]]) 12:23, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
*::{{u|Xurizuri}}, regarding evidence that editors aren't paying enough attention to the existing notice, that's a good question to have in pose; to answer it, I'd point you to literally all of [[WP:AfC]], which should make it pretty clear.
*::
*::Regarding accessibility, Wikipedia has a lot of trouble with consistent color scheming. The shade here is the same as at {{tl|Documentation}}, so if there's an accessibility problem with it, that should be addressed at a higher level; I'm just trying to follow the existing norm to the extent it exists. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 12:44, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
*:::Hahah! You're right, that's pretty good evidence.
*:::I may chase this up there then, thanks! --[[User:Xurizuri|Xurizuri]] ([[User talk:Xurizuri|talk]]) 08:27, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

===Other design ideas===
I anticipate that, seeing this RfC, some editors may have other ideas about changes to make to the notice. These are welcome, but I'd prefer that they not get in the way of the discussion above, so I am carving out a space for them here.

As a basic usability best practices reminder, ''it is vital that we keep this notice as short and concise as possible''. Yes, there are lots of things we'd like people to have in mind when creating a new page, but every line we add to this notice makes it less likely people will actually read it and thus less likely they'll click through to [[Help:Your first article]]. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 20:44, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
*{{tq|[[Wikipedia:Your first article]]}} should be changed to {{tq|[[Help:Your first article]]}}, since that's the title of the page. Hopefully that's uncontroversial. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 20:49, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
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::Not that anyone ever reads that far..but would be best to link a personal sand box instead of a sandbox title that is associated with this dead project that has not reviewed an article in 8 years.--<span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User_talk:Moxy|Moxy]]</span> <span style="color:red">🍁</span> 13:18, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
:::{{u|Moxy}}, if you're referring to "Special:Mypage/WikiProject Usability", the part after the slash is the name of the uncreated page. So if you go to [[ssdfsdkfjshdfsdfs]], it'll suggest [[Special:Mypage/Ssdfsdkfjshdfsdfs]]. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 14:12, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
:::: Direct them to a normal tilted draft page [[User:Moxy/Draft]]....not [[User:Moxy/WikiProject Usability]] that  seems to imply it's related to this project that does not review articles.--<span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User_talk:Moxy|Moxy]]</span> <span style="color:red">🍁</span> 14:33, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
:::::I can't teach you what you're unwilling to learn. There's no linking to WikiProject Usability going on. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 15:10, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
::::::Well, part of that might make sense: infixing "Draft:", so the entire prefix would be "Special:Mypage/Draft:...".  That would make moving the page into Draft namespace a little more intuitive later. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 21:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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If the proposed change doesn't get made, or applies only to new editors, I would suggest that the border is still valuable, to make it easier to distinguish from surrounding text in the web version for all editors.  --[[User:Xurizuri|Xurizuri]] ([[User talk:Xurizuri|talk]]) 09:58, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

== Where to report a Wikipedia page that violates usability guidelines? ==

Let's say that you find an article on Wikipedia and all of the following are true:

* Some part of it breaks the usability guidelines, e.g. WP:COLLAPSE.

* It is protected, semi-protected, or some other sort of "has a lock icon and you can't edit it yourself".

* Posting a request on the article's own talk page for an editor who can edit the article to address the usability problem has proved fruitless, as the "local" editors just don't seem to care.

Is there anywhere this can be reported to attract an "outside" editor, perhaps a WikiProject Usability one, to come fix the article's usability problem? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:70.52.178.195|70.52.178.195]] ([[User talk:70.52.178.195#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.52.178.195|contribs]]) 21:10, 16 January 2021 (UTC)</span>
:You could try posting at [[WT:Accessibility]], but edit requests normally do attract editors from outside the local talk page, so if they don't seem to care, it might be for a reason. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 02:39, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
:: There can be no legitimate reason for leaving an article in that state. Per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility#Users_with_limited_CSS_or_JavaScript_support we have: "features that would cause content to be hidden or corrupted when CSS or JavaScript is unavailable must not be used."
::: Is there anywhere where one can go "over Accessibility's head", so to speak? The people there seem equally unwilling to fix the article and seem to think it's somehow within my ability to do it myself, even after I've repeatedly pointed out that it's not. The ridiculous thing is that the very day that someone's edit to the article put it into noncompliance I requested on its talk page that someone revert that edit, but instead of someone taking 20 seconds out of their time to do so it's just escalated and escalated and escalated with everyone arguing about why if I don't like it I should revert it myself. I'm pretty sure that's not the correct procedure for responding to an edit request on a semi-protected article's talk page, and it's certainly not correct for people to act like they're perfectly happy with the article the way it is when it is in flagrant violation of a long-established site-wide policy. I'm starting to wonder if it's going to require getting the actual site admins involved to get everyone back on the straight and narrow. One crack of the whip from someone with the power to hand out things like lifetime bans would surely suffice to get that policy taken seriously again ...
::::Responded at [[WT:ACCESS#WP:COLLAPSE being ignored]]. Discussions shouldn't spread across multiple pages in this case because we're already talking about it over there, the same people are gonna be involved either way, and [[WP:FORUMSHOP]]. [[User:Enterprisey|Enterprisey]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Enterprisey|talk!]]) 03:23, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

==Discussion at [[:MediaWiki talk:Signupstart#Refining message further|MediaWiki talk:Signupstart §&nbsp;Refining message further]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Reader-focused editing|Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) §&nbsp;Reader-focused editing]]==
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== color deficiency ==

I'm not sure if this is to specific but it has absolutely to do with usability.<br>
As I do graphic work I always try as hard as possible to pick colors so they work for many people with color deficiency. So to be able to mark the "images" information pages I have created a template [[:c:Template:Color_deficiency_ok|Color_deficiency_ok]] to show this and to add the images to [[:c:Category:Color_deficiency_ok|Category:Color_deficiency_ok]]. I hope this can be useful. --''always ping me''-- [[User:Goran tek-en|Goran tek-en]] ([[User talk:Goran tek-en|talk]]) 14:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

:@[[User:Goran tek-en|Goran tek-en]], I'd definitely bring this up at [[commons:Commons:Village pump]] to assess community consensus, as there are a ''lot'' of potential files where this could be used. See also [[MOS:COLOR]]. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 15:13, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

== Turning on syntax highlighting by default ==

I meant to share an invite earlier, but just plopping here for the record since it's relevant: [[Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal: Turn on syntax highlighting by default for new accounts]]. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 07:52, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RFC: New PDF icon|Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) §&nbsp;RFC: New PDF icon]]==
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==Discussion about removing the content reuse disclaimer from the universal editnotice==
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==Discussion at [[:Talk:List of screw drives#Images in Section Headings|Talk:List of screw drives §&nbsp;Images in Section Headings]]==
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== Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Make FA and GA icons in articles more noticeable #2]] ==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Removing links to portals from the main page's top banner|Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) §&nbsp;Removing links to portals from the main page's top banner]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Template talk:Draft at#Redesign|Template talk:Draft at §&nbsp;Redesign]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Changes to the universal editnotice|Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) §&nbsp;Changes to the universal editnotice]]==
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== Usability of talk pages ==

Hi, I am going through some of the talk pages for a usability case study and I am noticing some difficulty in navigation and understanding of the pages. I was wondering if editors can share your thoughts and flows as they go through the talk pages? Just looking to understand some of the pain points for people who are both new and experienced when it comes to Wikipedia talk pages/editing. If this is not the right place to ask, do let me know where I can look towards! Thanks! <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jncwtopac|Jncwtopac]] ([[User talk:Jncwtopac#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jncwtopac|contribs]]) </span>
:Hi {{u|Jncwtopac}}! When I go to a talk page, I'm normally looking either to see what past discussions have been held there or to start a new discussion (sometimes [[WP:BRD|after I've been reverted]]). There are a whole bunch of pain points. For newcomers, [[WP:NOTFORUM]] is commonly not known. For everyone, indenting is a pain, as is the lack of automatic signatures (you should sign your posts with {{4~}}) and the inability to subscribe to individual sections. The [[WP:Talk pages project|Talk pages project]] currently being undertaken by the [[Wikimedia Foundation]] aims to address many of these issues and has released beta features; I would definitely check that out. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 07:28, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
: Thanks {{u|Sdkb}} for your comment and the links! I will definitely check out Talk pages project. Hope you don't mind a few questions! Was it difficult when you first started going through talk pages? And how has it been from when you first started to now?  Also, aside from the issues, are there things you enjoy about the talk pages as you use it? [[User:Jncwtopac|Jncwtopac]] ([[User talk:Jncwtopac|talk]]) 08:11, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
::I don't clearly remember my earliest talk page interactions. The main thing I enjoy about talk pages is just seeing the Wikipedia community at work—some talk page posts are junk, but many reflect a remarkable level of care about even minute aspects of the topic. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 08:19, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
:::Nice! Thank you for sharing! [[User:Jncwtopac|Jncwtopac]] ([[User talk:Jncwtopac|talk]]) 14:02, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

== Barnstar ==

I've created a Barnstar for this project, see [[Template:The Usability Barnstar]]. [[User:Jerm|Jerm]] ([[User talk:Jerm|talk]]) 22:03, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

==Suggested changes to VE instructional popups==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Changes to VisualEditor instructional pop-ups|Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) §&nbsp;Changes to VisualEditor instructional pop-ups]]==
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==Discussion at [[:MediaWiki talk:Semiprotectedpagewarning#Teahouse line|MediaWiki talk:Semiprotectedpagewarning §&nbsp;Teahouse line]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Template talk:Edit taxonomy#Pencil icon, 2022|Template talk:Edit taxonomy §&nbsp;Pencil icon, 2022]]==
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==Proposal to change portal links on the Main Page==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Enabling the New Topic Tool by default|Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) §&nbsp;Enabling the New Topic Tool by default]]==
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==Discussion at [[:MediaWiki talk:Signupstart#Moving username message to appropriate location|MediaWiki talk:Signupstart §&nbsp;Moving username message to appropriate location]]==
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== [[Module:RoundN]] background colors ==

A discussion was started at [[Module talk:RoundN#Medal colors for gold/silver/bronze|Module talk:RoundN § Medal colors for gold/silver/bronze]], aiming to change the module's background colors in favor of more accessible ones. Please, join us in it, as we lack experience in the subject. [[User:CLalgo|CLalgo]] ([[User talk:CLalgo|talk]]) 13:23, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

:@[[User:CLalgo|CLalgo]], I'd suggest posting an invite at [[WT:Accessibility]] as well. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 18:53, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
:: {{re|Sdkb}} Thank you. Done. [[User:CLalgo|CLalgo]] ([[User talk:CLalgo|talk]]) 19:31, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia talk:Blocking policy#MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext overhaul|Wikipedia talk:Blocking policy §&nbsp;MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext overhaul]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RfC: Showing a gadget menu to logged-out users|Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) §&nbsp;RfC: Showing a gadget menu to logged-out users]]==
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== [[Wikipedia:Mobile communication bugs]] listed at Requested moves==
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==Should non-free images be allowed in search results?==
[[File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg|25px|link=|alt=]]&nbsp;You are invited to join the discussion at [[:Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/Archive 73#Non-free images in search results (redux)|Wikipedia talk:Non-free content §&nbsp;Non-free images in search results (redux)]].  <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 15:58, 2 February 2023 (UTC)<!-- [[Template:Please see]] -->

==Proposal to collapse the vital article tag into the project banner shell==
[[File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg|25px|link=|alt=]]&nbsp;You are invited to join the discussion at [[:Wikipedia talk:Talk page layout#Vital tags should be placed with WikiProjects|Wikipedia talk:Talk page layout §&nbsp;Vital tags should be placed with WikiProjects]].  <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 05:06, 21 February 2023 (UTC)<!-- [[Template:Please see]] -->

:There is now a follow-up discussion at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Vital Articles#TfD follow-up: Fate of the vital article talk banner]]. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>&#123;{u&#124;</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}&#125;</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 19:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

==Discussion on "Which template to use: Strong or Em"==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Increase default thumbnail size from 220px to 250px|Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) §&nbsp;Increase default thumbnail size from 220px to 250px]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Evaluation of Vector 2022]]==
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==Discussion at [[:MediaWiki talk:Editpage-head-copy-warn#New design|MediaWiki talk:Editpage-head-copy-warn §&nbsp;New design]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Rephrase the talk page box "Description" prompt|Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) §&nbsp;Rephrase the talk page box "Description" prompt]]==
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==Discussion at [[:Template talk:Current#RfC: Condense Template:Current|Template talk:Current §&nbsp;RfC: Condense Template:Current]]==
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== Script to read articles aloud ==

Hello everyone, some of you might be interested in WikiNarrator, a new user script to read selected passages or whole articles aloud. More information on installation and usage can be found at [[User:Phlsph7/WikiNarrator]]. Please let me know if you have new feature ideas for the script or encounter problems. [[User:Phlsph7|Phlsph7]] ([[User talk:Phlsph7|talk]]) 10:09, 20 May 2025 (UTC)