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== Photos ==

Hi everyone,

Polite reminder to take some photos this election season, and then make them Creative Commons to be used on here :) (If you feel like doing so) [[User:GraziePrego|GraziePrego]] ([[User talk:GraziePrego|talk]]) 06:34, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

== Requested move at [[Talk:Premiership of David Crisafulli#Requested move 22 April 2025]] ==
[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Premiership of David Crisafulli#Requested move 22 April 2025]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b>]]</sup> 12:58, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

== Confusing electoral division / district / electorate page titles ==

For Canadian elections, page titles disambiguate based on whether it's a provincial or federal district:
*[[Toronto Centre (federal electoral district)]]
*[[Toronto Centre (provincial electoral district)]]

The disambiguator is generally applied: [[Toronto West (provincial electoral district)]], even when it is not necessary ([[Toronto West]] is just a redirect to the electoral district just mentioned).

Similarly this is equivalently true for the UK for UK-wide or "devolved" constituencies:
*[[Belfast West (UK Parliament constituency)]]
*[[Belfast West (Assembly constituency)]]

The disambiguator is generally applied: [[Aberdeen South and North Kincardine (Scottish Parliament constituency)]], even when it is not necessary ([[Aberdeen South and North Kincardine]] is just a redirect to the constituency just mentioned).

But this is not true for Australia:
*[[Division of Adelaide]]
*[[Electoral district of Adelaide]]

This distinction true for all statees/territories. The Northern Territory uses the term "electoral divsion" (e.g. [[Electoral division of Port Darwin]]). Tasmanian lower house seats are called "divsions" anyway so [[Division of Bass (state)]] has to be disambiguated anyway. The naming of ACT electorates is also slightly different: [[Murrumbidgee electorate]] ratehr than "Electorate of Murrumbidgee".

I am not from Australia, and I perceive this as slightly confusing. 

I would suggest that the following name changes are made:

*[[Division of Adelaide]] ->  [[Adelaide (federal electoral divsion)]]
*[[Electoral district of Adelaide]] -> [[Adelaide (state electoral division)]]
*[[Murrumbidgee electorate]] -> [[Murrumbidgee (territorial electorate)]]
*[[Electoral division of Port Darwin]] -> [[Port Darwin (territorial electoral division)]]
*[[Division of Bass (state)]] -> [[Bass (Tasmanian state electoral division)]]
*[[Electoral district of Bass]] -> [[Bass (Victorian state electoral district)]]

I would like to suggest a request for a move to make this clearer, but I don't want it to get bogged down by people understandably pointing out how this or that wouldn't work well in this or that situation with corner cases. I am aware my proposal is probably flawed and won't simply work in certain places without explaining how it would work in those cases.

I would like to be able to consider all these issues in the request itself.

If there are better ideas than or issues with this approach, or if this is completely pointless, because people in Australia can don't see this as an issue, then I would like to hear it.

This is not a request for a move, it is just a request for feedback. [[User:Landpin|Landpin]] ([[User talk:Landpin|talk]]) 18:12, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

:The current names have been adopted because different jurisdictions use different terminology. I can't really think of an instance where it wouldn't be immediately apparent from the context as to which jurisdiction is meant. In the vast majority of cases the links will be piped anyway so I don't think there's any real benefit to adopting a different naming convention. <span style=white-space:nowrap;>[[User:ITBF|<span style="background-color:wheat;padding:2px 5px;border-radius:5px;font-family:Arial black"><span style=color:olivedrab>I</span> <span style=color:indianred>T</span> <span style=color:darkgoldenrod>B</span> <span style=color:darksalmon>F</span></span>]] <span style="background-color:mistyrose;padding:2px 5px;border-radius:5px;font-family:Arial black">[[User talk:ITBF|📢]]</span></span> 15:14, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
:'''Strong Oppose.''' Its important to remember that states and federal have different terms for their districts, whether it be division, electoral division, district and so forth. This is enough of a disambiguator. Also, as a Tasmanian editor, I would also strongly oppose renaming of the State and Federal division articles for Tasmania. In Tasmania, the state parliament has the same divisions and boundaries as federal, and it is perfectly disambiguated by having the (state) suffix. [[User:DeadlyRampage26|<span style="color:#00843D">'''Deadly'''</span><span style="color:#B59410">'''Rampage'''</span><span style="color: darkgreen">'''26'''</span>]] ([[User talk:DeadlyRampage26|Chat]]) 03:28, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

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==Requested move at [[Talk:Coalition (Australia)#Requested moved 20 May 2025]]==
An editor has requested that [[:Coalition (Australia)]] be moved to [[:Liberal–National Coalition]], which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You &#32;are invited to participate in [[Talk:Coalition (Australia)|the move discussion]].<!-- from Template:RM notice--> <span style=white-space:nowrap;>[[User:ITBF|<span style="background-color:wheat;padding:2px 5px;border-radius:5px;font-family:Arial black"><span style=color:olivedrab>I</span> <span style=color:indianred>T</span> <span style=color:darkgoldenrod>B</span> <span style=color:darksalmon>F</span></span>]] <span style="background-color:mistyrose;padding:2px 5px;border-radius:5px;font-family:Arial black">[[User talk:ITBF|📢]]</span></span> 15:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

== Requested move at [[Talk:Shane Love shadow ministry#Requested move 15 May 2025]] ==
[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Shane Love shadow ministry#Requested move 15 May 2025]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b>]]</sup> 12:46, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

== Requested move at [[Talk:Allan government#Requested move 4 June 2025]] ==
[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Allan government#Requested move 4 June 2025]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b>]]</sup> 09:01, 9 June 2025 (UTC)