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== Antarctica ==

I have nominated [[Antarctica]] for a [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/Antarctica/archive1|featured article review here]]. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets [[Wikipedia:What is a featured article?|featured article criteria]]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are [[Wikipedia:Featured article review|here]].<!--Template:FARMessage--> <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Chidgk1|Chidgk1]] ([[User talk:Chidgk1#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chidgk1|contribs]]) 5:17, 9 January 2022 (UTC)</small>

== Request for Feedback from Editorial Team ==

Hello, I am part of a team at a University where we are building a LLM style model which will be given a topic and will generate different subtopics and then text in order to write an informative article. We are going to be using several different types of scoring mechanisms, but we would ideally like to have frequent wikipedia editors collaborate with scoring the articles. Please message me if interested in working on a fascinating project pushing the envelope of State of the Art technology. [[User:Terribilis11|Terribilis11]] ([[User talk:Terribilis11|talk]]) 00:39, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

:@[[User:Terribilis11|Terribilis11]], have you read [[Wikipedia:Large language models]] and related pages? [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 00:36, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

== A printworthy notice ==

Altering rcat status of [[Drawfee]] to printworthy. It currently redirects to [[College Humor]], which is an outdated connection and Drawfee meets the [[Wikipedia:Notability|criteria for inclusion]] on their own. Giving notice here as per [[Template:R printworthy]]. A new full article to be posted soon. [[User:JimsMaher|JimsMaher]] ([[User talk:JimsMaher|talk]]) 23:21, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

==[[:Category:Wikipedia CD Selection]] has been nominated for discussion==

<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg|48px|alt=|link=]]</div>[[:Category:Wikipedia CD Selection]] has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the [[Wikipedia:Categorization|categorization]] guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at '''[[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 17#Category:Wikipedia CD Selection|the category's entry]]''' on the [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion|categories for discussion]] page.<!-- Template:Cfd-notify--> Thank you. [[User:Schierbecker|Schierbecker]] ([[User talk:Schierbecker|talk]]) 03:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

== Current status of Wikipedia 1.0 ==

What is the current status of this project? I see a lot of pages in this project seem fairly outdated. [[Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia_1.0|It seems like it was still somewhat active as of 2021]]. [[User:Mathwriter2718|Mathwriter2718]] ([[User talk:Mathwriter2718|talk]]) 17:09, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
:I've been thinking it's well passed time to mark this page as historical. Any objections? [[User:Schierbecker|Schierbecker]] ([[User talk:Schierbecker|talk]])
*'''Support''' marking as historical. <span style=white-space:nowrap;>[[User:CFA|<span style="background-color:#e0f7fa;padding:2px 5px;border-radius:5px;font-family:Arial black"><span style=color:#00c>C</span> <span style=color:red>F</span> <span style=color:#5ac18e>A</span></span>]] <span style="background-color:#e6e6fa;padding:2px 5px;border-radius:5px;font-family:Arial black">[[User talk:CFA|💬]]</span></span> 03:20, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
*:[[User:Walkerma|Walkerma]], is this work still being organized mostly off wiki?  If so, then it might help to update the page to say that, so that people don't see the inactivity here and assume that it means inactivity everywhere. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 20:37, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|WhatamIdoing}}, {{ping|Mathwriter2718}}: Sorry I missed this - for some reason my alerts didn't show this post until today.  Yes - the work is mostly going on offline, but is active - in fact I had a 45 minute video call just today about it.  A lot of updates were done to the bot over the past few months.  I have been wanting to update this page for a while, but my work IRL has taken precedence; I'm head of a department and I've seen several colleagues lose their jobs in recent months so my focus is obviously on protecting those that remain.  If you and/or others would be willing to work with me to get the pages updated I'd be thrilled.  We have a lot to update and talk about, but just my life in meatspace keeps getting in the way.  Can anyone help out?  Thanks, [[User:Walkerma|Walkerma]] ([[User talk:Walkerma|talk]]) 00:16, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Walkerma|Walkerma]], I don't really know enough to update the page.  The most important thing is probably to help people understand how to join in.  If someone wanted, e.g., to join a general meeting, how would they find out about it? [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 02:56, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks - that's a useful perspective.  I will try to find the time to do what I can!  I did do some updates a few months back to remove defunct projects, but I need to finish the job. [[User:Walkerma|Walkerma]] ([[User talk:Walkerma|talk]]) 05:37, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
::: @[[User:Walkerma|Walkerma]] — agreed w/ {{ping|WhatamIdoing}} if one of the recurring jobs / scripts / cron jobs updated a status page (similar to how the backup scripts are constantly putting out an update whenever a minor language-edition snapshot is made) that would help visualize the work.  And we should have a [[:category:backlog|backlog]] category for pages that have never been assessed.  (future work: Then a way to tag pages that have change substantively since the last eval...) Warmly, <span style="color:#666">&ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Sj|SJ]][[User Talk:Sj|<span style="color:#f90;">&nbsp;+</span>]]</span> 02:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Sj|Sj]], @[[User:Nettrom|Nettrom]] has a script for identifying pages whose ORES score differs from the rated score.  I suggest looking primarily at articles that are off by two classes (e.g., ORES says C, we say Stub), as the difference between a "big Stub" and a "small Start" is something people disagree about. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 06:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::: PS the new interest in offline reaeers (via kiwix ant [[Internet-in-a-Box|IIAB]]) should drive some additional interest in contributing to a 1.0 push.  <span style="color:#666">&ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Sj|SJ]][[User Talk:Sj|<span style="color:#f90;">&nbsp;+</span>]]</span> 02:40, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:Sj|SJ]] - Yes, that would be very helpful.  I have some free time again after Christmas so I will bear that in mind as I do more updates.  Do you know how to set up an auto-update of this sort?  If so, could you (or someone you recommend) get it set up on here for WP1?  All the best for the holidays, [[User:Walkerma|Walkerma]] ([[User talk:Walkerma|talk]]) 04:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::The WD and abstract WP team are very methodical about it, you might try asking Denny or JamesF what tools they use to post small regular updates.  But an API call to add a ==YYYY-MM Updates== section to this talk page would be easy enough.  Looking for an existing one to append to it would be a bit harder, but instead you could just append to subpage [[/YYYY-MM]] and transclude it once on this talk. <span style="color:#666">&ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Sj|SJ]][[User Talk:Sj|<span style="color:#f90;">&nbsp;+</span>]]</span> 23:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
<s>::'''Support''' mark as historical for now. <span style="color:#CD0000">[[User:Waddie96|waddie96]] ★ ([[User talk:Waddie96|talk]])</span> 17:25, 12 February 2025 (UTC)</s> Retracted.</s> <span style="color:#CD0000">[[User:Waddie96|waddie96]] ★ ([[User talk:Waddie96|talk]])</span> 01:13, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
:<s>'''Support''' marking as historical. If this idea is revived, it will effectively have to start over and will be completed by AI assistants so the project will be very different than originally envisioned. [[User:Jason Quinn|Jason Quinn]] ([[User talk:Jason Quinn|talk]]) 00:47, 12 March 2025 (UTC)</s> Also retracted. [[User:Jason Quinn|Jason Quinn]] ([[User talk:Jason Quinn|talk]]) 17:54, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
::I don't really understand these comments.  @[[User:Jason Quinn|Jason Quinn]], @[[User:Waddie96|Waddie96]], are you saying that the people who are working on this ought to just stop?  Are you saying you don't ''want'' them to do this?  Or are you just having problems [[User:WhatamIdoing/Believe editors|believing the editors]] who they say that they're actually doing it?
::The conversation on this talk page tends to go like this:
::* A:  No visible activity.  This should be marked historical.
::* B:  I'm working on it!  Most of our tools are off wiki, so the activity isn't always visible on wiki.
::* C:  No visible activity.  This should be marked historical.
::* B:  I'm working on it!  I just don't have time to update the page here.
::* D:  No visible activity.  This should be marked historical.
::At what point do you think these volunteers are justified in reading these responses as "No visible activity, and I think the people claiming to work on this are a bunch of liars"? [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 00:57, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
:::I called no one a liar. Keep civil please. I retract my !vote as I do not wish to be part of a conversation of bickering. <span style="color:#CD0000">[[User:Waddie96|waddie96]] ★ ([[User talk:Waddie96|talk]])</span> 01:13, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
::::I agree:  You didn't.  But can you imagine why it might begin to ''feel'' that way, when editor after editor reads words like "I'm working on it", and yet people keep saying "Nobody's working on it"?  Maybe we need a box at the top of the page similar to the ones on maintenance categories, that warn admins not to delete the cat even if it's temporarily empty.  This one would need to say something like "Don't mark this page historical just because you can't see an ''offline'' project's activity ''online''". [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 04:03, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi, WhatamIdoing. You are right and you've changed my mind. It was not a fully considered opinion and was made too hastily putting too much weight in the banner message. [[User:Jason Quinn|Jason Quinn]] ([[User talk:Jason Quinn|talk]]) 17:51, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

{{ping|Walkerma}} maybe we could have another push this winter?  Thinking about this today.  We are having a [[M:NARWHAL|NARWHAL]] call this evening where people might be interested in the idea. <span style="color:#666">&ndash;&nbsp;[[User:Sj|SJ]][[User Talk:Sj|<span style="color:#f90;">&nbsp;+</span>]]</span> 18:41, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

:@[[User:Sj|Sj]] - you're right of course.  I missed seeing this message until after the call, but I need to step up and just make time for this.  There are some good things happening in the offline world, and this page needs to reflect that - not what was happening years ago.  Thanks for the poke! [[User:Walkerma|Walkerma]] ([[User talk:Walkerma|talk]]) 04:01, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
::@[[User:Sj|Sj]] @[[User:Walkerma|Walkerma]] @[[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] @[[User:Mathwriter2718|Mathwriter2718]]: If there's some offline activity, any chance us online readers could get some update at [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Release Version Criteria]] which states {{tq|As of July 2019 release 1.0 is on hold}} and was marked as historical in 2024; and at least maybe the {{section link|Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team#Status}} which says {{tq|At present}}<sup>[when?]</sup> {{sad face}} <span style="color:#CD0000">[[User:Waddie96|waddie96]] ★ ([[User talk:Waddie96|talk]])</span> 21:50, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
:::Thanks for this.  I was looking at what to work on next, so I'll update this page as best I can this weekend. [[User:Walkerma|Walkerma]] ([[User talk:Walkerma|talk]]) 16:48, 13 February 2025 (UTC)