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== or not ==

can this be used to violate the three reverts edit warring rule [[Special:Contributions/119.234.4.105|119.234.4.105]] ([[User talk:119.234.4.105|talk]]) 01:08, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

:The full article reads -
:: If a [[Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines|rule]] prevents you from improving or maintaining [[Wikipedia]], '''ignore it'''.
:Can you provide an example where violating the three-revert rule would improve or maintain Wikipedia? - [[User:Butwhatdoiknow|Butwhatdoiknow]] ([[User talk:Butwhatdoiknow|talk]]) 01:32, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
::Good faith reverts to remove vandalism is one example (however, since this is an exception to 3RR that is spelled out in that guideline, I suppose it isn’t a “violation”). [[User:Blueboar|Blueboar]] ([[User talk:Blueboar|talk]]) 02:21, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Butwhatdoiknow|Butwhatdoiknow]] [[Special:Contributions/110.168.224.246|110.168.224.246]] ([[User talk:110.168.224.246|talk]]) 23:46, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
::I am not sure why you are pinging me here now. I'm still waiting for a sample ''violation'' that would improve or maintain Wikipedia. - [[User:Butwhatdoiknow|Butwhatdoiknow]] ([[User talk:Butwhatdoiknow|talk]]) 01:54, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
:::to remove vandalism possible <span style="font-size:smaller;">([[Wikipedia:Talk page stalker|talk page stalker]])</span> [[User:Willbill6272|Willbill6272]]  ([[User talk:Willbill6272|talk]]) 18:44, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
::::As Blueboar says above: vandalism removal "is an exception to 3RR that is spelled out in that guideline, I suppose it isn’t a 'violation.'" - [[User:Butwhatdoiknow|Butwhatdoiknow]] ([[User talk:Butwhatdoiknow|talk]]) 05:58, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

== Ahem. ==

I have taken the extraordinary step of fully protecting this highly-visible, highly-linked page from live edit warring. Everybody likes WP:BOLD until hackles go up. We've seen [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Ignore_all_rules&diff=prev&oldid=1276615525 bold]. We've seen [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Ignore_all_rules&diff=next&oldid=1276615525 revert]. Now shall we DISCUSS this disputed change? [[User:BusterD|BusterD]] ([[User talk:BusterD|talk]]) 22:07, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

== Merging proposal ==
{{atop|[[WP:SNOW]] close. Near unanimous consensus against. [[User:Awesome Aasim|Aasim]] ([[User_talk:Awesome Aasim|<ruby>話す<rp>（</rp><rt>はなす</rt><rp>）</rp></ruby>]]) 19:19, 20 February 2025 (UTC)}}
I think we should merge this page, [[WP:IAR?]] into [[WP:IAR]]. This page is a very simple page that doesn't say much, but I think when we merge IAR? into this page, it will give readers a better understanding of what IAR is and what it is not. [[User:Interstellarity|Interstellarity]] ([[User talk:Interstellarity|talk]]) 22:15, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' - This is one policy that's useful to keep simple and to the point IMO. As with the spirit of the rule, it makes for a nice contrast with the rest. &mdash; <samp>[[User:Rhododendrites|<span style="font-size:90%;letter-spacing:1px;text-shadow:0px -1px 0px Indigo;">Rhododendrites</span>]] <sup style="font-size:80%;">[[User_talk:Rhododendrites|talk]]</sup></samp> \\ 22:21, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' - It's been proposed many times, but keeping this very simple page simple has consistently been the consensus. --[[User:Onorem|Onorem]] ([[User talk:Onorem|talk]]) 22:24, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''  [[WP:IAR?]] and [[WP:IAR]] is a textbook example of why we have [[Template:Supplement]] - that is  instructional creep.<span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:-15deg;color:darkblue">'''[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]'''</span><span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:15deg;color:darkblue">[[User talk:Moxy|🍁]]</span> 22:28, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' as per comments above. The separation is fine and simple is not always best.--[[User:Andrew Lancaster|Andrew Lancaster]] ([[User talk:Andrew Lancaster|talk]]) 22:30, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''', per above. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 03:46, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''  In addition to the other reasons, it's strength is its brevity, focus and directness.  Like the Google home page, the blankness is the most coveted place to want to put something to get noticed. Or like preferring to smoke in the no-smoking section because there are no smokers in it. :-) <b style="color: #0000cc;">''North8000''</b> ([[User talk:North8000#top|talk]]) 03:55, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
*:<small>the possessive form of "it" is "its"!!</small> '''[[user:consarn|<span style="color:#338665">consarn</span>]] <sub>[[user talk:consarn|<span style="color:#439272">(prison phone)</span>]] [[special:contributions/consarn|<span style="color:#439272">(crime record)</span>]]</sub>''' 11:04, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
*::<small>[[It's All Good|Its all good]]. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 11:30, 20 February 2025 (UTC)</small>
*:::<small>take a cold shower with your clothes on</small> '''[[user:consarn|<span style="color:#338665">consarn</span>]] <sub>[[user talk:consarn|<span style="color:#439272">(prison phone)</span>]] [[special:contributions/consarn|<span style="color:#439272">(crime record)</span>]]</sub>''' 11:53, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
*::::I fixed it.  <b style="color: #0000cc;">''North8000''</b> ([[User talk:North8000#top|talk]]) 16:52, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
* '''Nah''', [[User:Rjjiii|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;">Rjj<sup>iii</sup></span>]] ([[User talk:Rjjiii|talk]]) 04:01, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
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== Protected edit request on 19 February 2025 ==

{{edit fully-protected|Wikipedia:Ignore all rules|answered=yes}}
Can you please tag this page with the following code? It is related to the discussion above this one.
: <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Merge from|merge from]]<nowiki>|Wikipedia:What "Ignore all rules" means|discuss=Wikipedia talk:Ignore all rules#Merging proposal|date=February 2025}}</nowiki></code>

[[User:Interstellarity|Interstellarity]] ([[User talk:Interstellarity|talk]]) 22:19, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
:Why would you put up an edit request like this for a proposal that is not going to happen? [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 23:44, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
:: No. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 00:30, 20 February 2025 (UTC)