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Welcome to the '''Go WikiProject'''.  We are a [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject|group]] dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of the game of [[go (game)|Go]], known also as ''baduk'', ''igo'', and ''weiqi''.

{{Infobox Game
| title         = Go
| image_link    = [[File:FloorGoban.JPG|300px|alt=photograph of Go equipment with game in progress]]<!--[[Image:Go-Equipment-Narrow-Black.png|250px|alt=photograph of Go equipment with game in progress]]-->
| image_caption = Go is played on a grid of black lines (usually 19×19). The playing pieces, called ''stones'', are played on the intersections of the lines.
| skills        = Tactics, [[Go strategy and tactics|strategy]], [[observation]]
}}

[[File:Go-board-animated.gif|right|200px|thumb|The first 60 moves of a [[Go (game)|Go game]] between [[Cho Chikun]] (white) and [[Masao Kato|Kato Masao]], animated. This particular game quickly developed into a complicated fight in the lower left and bottom. (Click on the board, to restart the play, in a larger window.)]]

== Goals and scope ==
; Goals
* <!-- What does the project plan to do? --> 
To expand and improve articles in [[:Category:Go (game)]], in particular adding diagrams and upgrading biographical pages and the coverage of go competitions around the world.

* To keep tabs on changes to Go-related articles. [[tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/transcluded_changes.py/Template:WikiProject_Go|Here is a list]] of all the most recent edits to Go articles. (It's one of many to be found [[Wikipedia:List_of_WikiProject_watchlists_%28alphabetical%29#G|here]].) 

; Scope
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* Emphasis on professional go, and strategy.

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== Guidelines ==
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Discuss the format for each article based on the WikiProject.  Include various categories applicable to the topic.
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We should in particular discuss some format issues for different types of articles, romanization of names, how to tabulate results.

== Open tasks ==
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== Participants ==
: ''See also: {{Category|WikiProject Go participants}}'', which lists '''24 editors''' (Sep. 2016).

We have a list of project members, indicating any areas of particular interest. 
Please see [[/Members|this subpage]] to view the list, or to add yourself.

=== Userboxes ===
Members may also display the following [[wp:userboxes|userbox]] on their [[wp:User pages|User page]], (taken from [[Template:User WikiProject Go]]):
{{User Wikiproject Go}} 
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Go-players are most welcome to display the following userbox on their User page, (courtesy of [[User:Scepia]]): 
{{User:Scepia/Go}}
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'''408 editors''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Scepia/Go&limit=500 (verify)] display this userbox as of July 2020.
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=== Watchers ===
* '''960 editors''' have [[Go (game)]] on their [[Help:Watching pages|watchlist]] as of July 2022 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Go_%28game%29&action=info#mw-pageinfo-watchers (verify)].

* '''338 editors''' have [[Go (board game)]] on their watchlist as of July 2022 [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Go_%28board_game%29&action=info#mw-pageinfo-watchers (verify)].

== Articles ==

=== Article alerts ===
[[/Article alerts|Article alerts]] ([{{fullurl:Wikipedia:WikiProject Go/Article alerts|action=watch}} watch])—articles for deletion, proposed deletions, requested moves, etc.—are listed below. This section may be empty if there are no alerts currently active (which is common for this WikiProject).

{{/Article alerts}}

=== Most viewed articles ===
[[/Popular pages|List of the most popular pages]], updated monthly.

=== New articles ===
[[User:AlexNewArtBot/GoSearchResult]] ([{{fullurl:User:AlexNewArtBot/GoSearchResult|action=watch}} watch]) lists newly created articles related to Go.

Any new articles that have an interesting or unusual fact in them should be suggested for the [[Template talk:Did you know|Did you know?]] box on the [[Main Page]].

== Sensei's Library content ==
There is a [http://senseis.xmp.net/?WikipediaWikiProjectGo discussion page] on the [[Sensei's Library]] '''(SL)''' go wiki, designed to create interest in this project, and to provide a forum in which to discuss adaptation of material currently there on SL for WP.

Be warned that officially, Sensei's Library content is not compatible with Wikipedia content for raw copying - they use the [[Open Content License]] (OPL), a permissive license, but one that unfortunately never had an "upgrade path" added to it to either [[Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License|cc-by-sa]] or [[Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License|GFDL]], which is what Wikipedia expects.  That said, in practice, you can largely take from it with just minor rewriting (the differences are trivial and not one of intent) - just be warned that user-generated content like SL is not a "reliable source" [[WP:RS]] itself.  (See https://senseis.xmp.net/?SLCopyright , https://senseis.xmp.net/?topic=1197 , https://senseis.xmp.net/?Wikipedia%2FCopyDiscussion ).

=== Collaboration and review ===
; [[WP:COTW|Collaboration of the week]]
* 

; [[WP:PR|Peer review]]
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; [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment|Assessment]]

== Categories ==
* [[:Category:Category-Class Go articles]] {{--}} Categories with {{tl|WikiProject Go}} tagged in the Talk page
* [[:Category:Go (game)]] {{--}} Category tree:

===Go categories===
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<categorytree depth="1">Go (game)</categorytree>
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== Templates ==

* [[:Category:Template-Class Go articles]] {{--}} Templates with {{tl|WikiProject Go}} tagged in the Talk page
* [[:Category:Go templates]] {{--}} Category tree:

===Go templates===
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<categorytree depth="1">Go templates</categorytree>
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== Resources ==
=== Related projects ===
* Listed at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Culture/Games]]
* A travel guide at [[voy:Go]], mainly about places where travellers can play or buy equipment.

=== Books ===
''for reference and consultation''
*''A Way of Play for the 21st Century'' ({{ISBN|0-9676096-1-5}}): 1999 book of [[go (game)|go]] theory, written by [[Go Seigen]]

== Project statistics==
Bot-generated statistics (on articles having the project banner {{tl|WikiProject Go}} on their talk pages).
{{User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Go}}

For more information see:
:[[:Category:Go articles by quality]]
:[[:Category:Go articles by importance]]

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== Notability of professional Go-players ==
: [This section was added by [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09|talk]]) 00:20, 20 December 2010 (UTC) and has been modified by others]

Wikipedia has guidelines concerning the notability of living people. A question sometimes asked is: How strong a Professional rank must a [[Go professional]] enjoy, to be considered notable by Wikipedia? A quick and easy answer to this is that '''[[Go ranks and ratings|professional 4-dans]]''' (often denoted 4P) should be considered notable.  This is because that level is the best estimate of a rank equivalent to a [[Grandmaster (chess)|Chess Grandmaster]]. 

This is the usually-accepted and [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ko_Reibun|researched opinion]] from an informed editor - lifelong Go and chess player (& WP admin.) [[User:Charles Matthews]] - that 4-dan pro and above [i.e. from 4-dan up to the highest (9-dan)] are on a par with chess grandmasters, hence notable in the Go world.

There is a separate [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Go#Threshold_for_professionals'_notability|section on the project Talk page]] to discuss whether we should change the above threshold; please obviously feel free to add your own views to others', there.

The strength of players should be compared to others in the same time period. By selecting threshold of 4d you would eliminate players from less strong countries e.g. Europe nowadays. An that seems to be unreasonable because these players play an important role in theirs countries or are important form the historical point of view. Theses players are of interest for many not only European players. [[User:To1al|To1al]] ([[User talk:To1al|talk]]) 06:05, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

== References for professional Go-players ==
: [This section was added by [[User:Trafford09|Trafford09]] ([[User talk:Trafford09|talk]]) 00:15, 20 December 2010 (UTC)]

In years gone by, before some of us joined Wikiproject Go, various editors commendably added [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons|BLP]] articles for many renowned Go Professionals. These editors' work is much appreciated. However, in some cases there were insufficient [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|References]], [[Wikipedia:External links|External links]] and [[Wikipedia:Inline citation|inline citations]] added. As Wikipedia has, quite rightly,  tightened up on these aspects, we are faced with a certain backlog of work in this area.

Editors looking for references to add to these BLPs are sometimes unaware of the richest sources for such links. 
Thus, the following sources are suggested as a help. Please add to them if you know of further ones.  

=== Fuseki.Info ===
E.g. to get results for the 9-dan [[Shuchi Kubouchi]] - [http://fuseki.info/games_list.php?lang=en&sb=full&d=0&q=Kubouchi+Shuchi&q2=&bs=pl like this], what we can do is:
# Click on [http://fuseki.info/games_list.php?lang=en this link], (you may prefer to open it in a secondary tab or window). This opens up a list of all professional games on that site.
# The box to the left of Search initially contains Date. Change it to say Player.
# In the empty box to the left of Player, type in the player's given name and/or surname.
# Click on the Search button. This should bring up a list of that player's results, and their rank.
# If you didn't enter the player's full name, click on the player you're looking for, in the resulting list of games. This should limit the games to those in which that one professional played.
# The resulting URL (as in the example above) is then available to use as a reference for that player.

=== GoBase.Org ===
E.g. to get results for the 9-dan [[Cho Chikun]], like this: http://gobase.org/information/players/?pp=Cho+Chikun, what we can do is:
# Use a link like the one above, with the player's name
# This should bring up a list of that player's GoBase info..
# The resulting URL (as in the example above) is then available to use as a reference for that player.
# '''Also''', look at the line within GoBase, that is entitled www. If it has a website shown (as it does for Cho Chikun), then that too is then available to use as a further reference for that player. A large proportion of such a web page may be in say Japanese, but it should clearly back up the claimed name, grade and affiliation.

=== nihonkiin.or.jp ===
E.g. to get results from the [[Nihon Ki-in]] for the 9-dan [[Cho Chikun]], (http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/htm/ki000004.htm), what we can do is:
# Construct a search within www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/ for the player concerned, <br> e.g. use a [[URL]] like this one for Cho Chikun, and then modify the contents, for the name of the player you're seeking:  <br> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cho+chikun+site%3Awww.nihonkiin.or.jp%2Fplayer%2F&hl=en&num=10&lr=&ft=i&cr=&safe=off&tbs=
# The resulting search page lists the URLs for any entries for that player on the Nihon Kiin site.  <br> E.g. in the case of Cho Chikun, it lists two URLs (note that you have to add http:// in front):  <br> * http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/player-e/cho-chikun.htm   and   <br> * http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/htm/ki000004.htm
# The URL(s) thus shown are then available to use as reference(s) for that player. 
# The links would probably also show personal & professional details for the player - e.g. tournaments won, rank, DOB, where born, their [[sensei]] (master/teacher) & perhaps some of their [[insei]] (players whom they have taught).  These details may be added to the player's WP article.

=== [[American Go Association]] ===
E.g. to get results from the [[American Go Association]] for the 6-dan player [[Mingjiu Jiang]], what we can do is:
# Construct a search within www.usgo.org for the player concerned, <br> e.g. use a URL like this one for Mingjiu Jiang, and then modify the contents, for the name of the player you're seeking:  <br> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awww.usgo.org+Mingjiu+Jiang&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
# The URL(s) thus shown (in this case 212 of them!) are then potentially available to use as reference(s) for that player. Common sense, allied with browsing the article's statements, will lead one to use the best URLs from those that appear.

=== GoGameWorld ===
E.g. to get results from the GoGameWorld for the 9-dan player [[Yamashita Keigo]], what we can do is:
# Construct a search within www.gogameworld.com for the player concerned, <br> e.g. use a URL like this one for Yamashita Keigo, and then modify the contents, for the name of the player you're seeking:  <br> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Awww.usgo.org+Mingjiu+Jiang&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=site:www.gogameworld.com+Yamashita+Keigo&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=de610b7113b09eab
# The URL(s) thus shown will hopefully contain at least one saying "Player Profile for Yamashita Keigo ...". Check it, and if it's ok then it is potentially available to use as a reference for that player.

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