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=== [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Amazonfire|Amazonfire]] ===
{{rfcu box|case=Amazonfire|filed=17:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)}}
* {{checkuser|Amazonfire}}
* {{checkuser|Amazonjoke}} <sub>stale, but made the account in very similar date of Amazonfie, and created [[Ikuhiko Hata]]‎ article[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ikuhiko_Hata&diff=prev&oldid=113832054] in which Amazonfire removed sourced contents several times.</sub>
* {{checkuser|Kamosuke}} = <sub>infinitely blocked user [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Kamosuke] = [[Special:Contributions/211.131.78.52|211.131.78.52]] (odn.ad.jp)[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kofun_period&diff=prev&oldid=53483650]</sub>
* {{checkuser|Blue011011}}
* {{checkuser|Jusenkyoguide}}
* {{checkuser|Orchis29}} 
* {{checkuser|LactoseTI}}
* {{checkuser|Saintjust}}
* {{checkuser|Jjok}}
* {{checkuser|Kusunose}}
<includeonly>* {{clerknote}}... and more, not transcluded. -- [[User:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#002BB8;">lucasbfr</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#001F7F;">talk</span>]]</sup> 17:36, 18 January 2008 (UTC)</includeonly><noinclude>
* {{checkuser|Komdori}}
* {{checkuser|Mochi}}
* {{checkuser|Endroit}}
* {{checkuser|John Smith's}}
* {{checkuser|Neier}}
* {{checkuser|Azukimonaka}}
* {{checkip|218.218.129.57}}
* {{checkip|219.66.40.104}}==>'''vandalising this page several times''' blocked for 2 weeks
* {{checkip|219.66.41.150}}
* {{checkip|219.66.42.176}}
* {{checkip|219.66.44.142}}
* {{checkip|219.66.47.183}}
* {{checkip|219.105.4.71}}
*{{checkip|219.66.44.159}}->pro'''b'''agandasaist[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H%C5%8Dry%C5%AB-ji&diff=prev&oldid=146879261]
* {{checkip|211.3.113.247}} ->Pro'''b'''aganda[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Japanese_war_crimes&diff=prev&oldid=162542240]
* {{checkip|221.190.251.233}}
* {{checkip|220.212.98.240}}
* {{checkip|220.212.99.23}}
* {{checkip|211.3.113.201}}
* {{checkip|211.3.115.5}}
* {{checkip|211.3.122.122}}
* {{checkip|211.3.120.150}}
* {{checkip|211.3.116.131}}
* {{checkip|211.131.244.69}}
* {{checkip|211.131.78.28}}
* {{checkip|211.3.114.239}}
* {{checkip|211.131.247.21}}
* {{checkip|211.131.247.242}}
* {{checkip|211.131.247.30}}
* {{checkip|219.66.40.104}}
* {{checkip|219.66.45.131}}=='''vandalising this page''' with the block evasion. Blocked for 2 weeks
* {{checkip|220.212.103.128}}
* {{checkip|202.223.77.42}}
* {{checkip|61.116.113.151}}
* {{checkip|61.116.114.225}}
* {{checkip|61.209.168.24}}
* {{checkip|61.209.158.79}}
* {{checkip|61.209.162.51}}
* {{checkip|61.209.169.89}}
* {{checkip|61.209.169.139}}
* {{checkip|61.209.170.121}}
* {{checkip|61.116.115.217}}
* {{checkip|72.68.199.221}}
* {{checkip|43.244.133.167}}
* {{checkuser|124.87.134.96}}= Amazonfie due to his appearance in the same period minutes</noinclude>
* {{IP|219.66.44.214}}

* '''Code letter:''' C, E, F
* '''Supporting evidence:''' 
 
*{{la|So Far from the Bamboo Grove}}
*{{la|Kofun period}}
*{{la|An Jung-geun}} 

These articles are constant subjects of tendentious editing instead of engaging in discussion. I suspect some user(s) is(are) using sockpuppetry to avoid 3RR violation like the below examples. The ip addresses are all from the article. Note that user Amazonfire created his account about 10 months ago with just one log, and then suddenly reappeared here as just begun blindly reverting. This report holds the very recent cases and related in partial to [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/KoreanShoriSenyou]] which is on hold. I wish this endless disruption would be stopped in near future. 

*1st Possible 3RR violation with sock

:1st revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=184474286&oldid=183287471 06:56, 15 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Amazonfire|Amazonfire]]
:2nd revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=next&oldid=184485571 10:20, 15 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/219.66.44.142|219.66.44.142]]
:3rd revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=next&oldid=184500578 16:23, 15 January 2008] [[Special:Contributions/Amazonfire|Amazonfire]]
:4th revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=next&oldid=184575525 17:25, 15 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Amazonfire|Amazonfire]]
:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=next&oldid=184587342 08:59, 17 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/219.66.47.183|219.66.47.183]]

* 2nd Possible 3RR violation with sock

:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=next&oldid=175197281 2007-12-05T09:02:09] by [[Special:Contributions/61.209.168.24|61.209.168.24]] ([http://odn.ad.jp odn.ad.jp])
:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=next&oldid=175924630 2007-12-05T11:29:01] by [[Special:Contributions/Blue011011|Blue011011]]
:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=next&oldid=175947167 2007-12-05T16:37:32] by [[Special:Contributions/211.3.113.201|211.3.113.201]] ([http://odn.ad.jp odn.ad.jp])
:s[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=next&oldid=176018546 2007-12-05T22:03:08] by [[Special:Contributions/Blue011011|Blue011011]]

*Possible 3rr violation with sock
:pre revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kofun_period&diff=182813814&oldid=182697216 16:29, 7 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/219.66.42.176|219.66.42.176]]
:1st revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kofun_period&diff=182861739&oldid=182856733 20:29, 7 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Amazonfire|Amazonfire]]
:2nd revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kofun_period&diff=next&oldid=182896157 16:59, 8 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/219.66.41.150|219.66.41.150]]
:3rd revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kofun_period&diff=next&oldid=183043481 17:16, 8 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/219.66.41.150|219.66.41.150]]
:4th revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kofun_period&diff=next&oldid=183045235 17:24, 8 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/219.66.41.150|219.66.41.150]]
:5th revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kofun_period&diff=next&oldid=183049305 17:42, 8 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/219.66.41.150|219.66.41.150]]
:6th revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kofun_period&diff=next&oldid=183077670 08:59, 9 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/43.244.133.167|43.244.133.167]]

*Possible 3rr violation with sock
:1st revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=It%C5%8D_Hirobumi&diff=184216804&oldid=179578814 02:34, 14 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Jusenkyoguide|Jusenkyoguide]]
:2nd revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=It%C5%8D_Hirobumi&diff=next&oldid=184651629 18:37, 16 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Jusenkyoguide|Jusenkyoguide]]
:3rd revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=It%C5%8D_Hirobumi&diff=next&oldid=184862742 19:54, 16 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Kusunose|Kusunose]]
:4th revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=It%C5%8D_Hirobumi&diff=next&oldid=184880002 21:01, 16 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Jusenkyoguide|Jusenkyoguide]]

*Possible 3rr violation with sock
:1st revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=An_Jung-geun&diff=184877368&oldid=184877006 20:36, 16 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Jusenkyoguide|Jusenkyoguide]]
:2nd revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=An_Jung-geun&diff=next&oldid=184881684 21:03, 16 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Jusenkyoguide|Jusenkyoguide]]
:3rd revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=An_Jung-geun&diff=next&oldid=184882511 21:11, 16 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Jusenkyoguide|Jusenkyoguide]]
:4th revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=An_Jung-geun&diff=next&oldid=184884481 21:27, 16 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Kusunose|Kusunose]]

*Possible 3rr violation with sock
'''note'''. [[Special:Contributions/211.3.114.239|211.3.114.239]] is a sock of [[Special:Contributions/219.66.40.104|219.66.40.104]]  and [[Special:Contributions/219.66.45.131|219.66.45.131]] who vandalised and evaded their block sanction.
:1st revet [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=185422142&oldid=185100501 08:52, 19 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/211.3.114.239|211.3.114.239]]
:2nd revet [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=next&oldid=185422532 12:57, 19 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/211.3.114.239|211.3.114.239]]
:3rd revet [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=next&oldid=185462094 00:45, 20 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Amazonfie|Amazonfie]]
:4th revet [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=next&oldid=185591672 01:13, 20 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Amazonfie|Amazonfie]]
:5th revet [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=next&oldid=185596768 01:42, 20 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Amazonfie|Amazonfie]]
:6th revet [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=So_Far_from_the_Bamboo_Grove&diff=185649784&oldid=185618343 10:02, 20 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Orchis29|Orchis29]]

*Possible 3rr violation with sock {{la|Timeline of Japan-South Korea relations}}
:1st revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_Japan-South_Korea_relations&diff=186117342&oldid=181012901 09:43, 22 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/124.87.134.96|124.87.134.96]]
:2nd revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_Japan-South_Korea_relations&diff=next&oldid=186127397 10:44, 22 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Amazonfire|Amazonfire]]
:3rd revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_Japan-South_Korea_relations&diff=next&oldid=186127664 10:57, 22 January 2008] by [[Special:Contributions/Amazonfire|Amazonfire]]
:4th revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_Japan-South_Korea_relations&diff=next&oldid=186131947 11:15, 22 January 2008]  by [[Special:Contributions/Amazonfire|Amazonfire]]
:5th revert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Timeline_of_Japan-South_Korea_relations&curid=13697038&diff=186135192&oldid=186134069 11:24, 22 January 2008]  by [[Special:Contributions/Amazonfire|Amazonfire]]

--[[User:Appletrees|Appletrees]] ([[User talk:Appletrees|talk]]) 17:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

*It is {{possible}} that Orchis29 is also Azukimonaka; everything else is {{inconclusive}}. [[User talk:Thatcher|Thatcher]] 03:09, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

**Endroit and John Smith's are totally {{unrelated}}. [[User talk:Thatcher|Thatcher]] 03:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

**Question: The differs I provide as evidence mainly focus on Amazonefire and the odn anons of which are banned for 3RR violations and block evasions. And why don't you say about whether the others are unrelated to Amazonfire or to each other?--[[User:Appletrees|Appletrees]] ([[User talk:Appletrees|talk]]) 03:35, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

::All I can really tell is that they are all in Japan and they all use the same giant ISP, but that's like looking at a bunch of suspects in the US who all use AOL. There is something about Orchis29 and Azukimonaka that lets me say "possible"; but for all the rest the technical evidence is not helpful. As someone famously said, Checkuser is not magic wiki pixie dust. The style of contributions is your best evidence here. [[User talk:Thatcher|Thatcher]] 03:41, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

:::I know that Japan has more than 40 ip network after collecting the disruptive odn user's ips. Same misspellings and passages on edit summaries are not enough to prove anything? And are you saying that the listed users are all using ''[[SoftBank]] network''? --[[User:Appletrees|Appletrees]] ([[User talk:Appletrees|talk]]) 03:45, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

:::I saw some checkuser said several times that they can clearly see what computer and browser types and even index numbers of computers due to distinctive features of editors here. And are they all using '''one computer and one browser'''? --[[User:Appletrees|Appletrees]] ([[User talk:Appletrees|talk]]) 04:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

::::I'm not going to say anything more specific about the technical evidence.  I also have not looked at contributions (similar misspellings, edit summaries, or the like).  Checkuser is a technical means for finding sockpuppets that is independent of analysis of contributions.  Sometimes checkuser can support a behavioral comparison, sometimes it indicates a connection when people do not expect it, and sometimes it is simply not helpful one way or the other.  It sounds like you need to find an administrator to review your non-technical (behavioral) evidence and take action if they agree with you. [[User talk:Thatcher|Thatcher]] 08:11, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

:::::I'm not a seeking an administrator to agree with all of my opinion on some of the listed disruptive editors. I'm tired of getting their same (especially ip users) mockery and personal attack and blind reverting or addting without verifiable proof. (I've kept hearing 'Korean theif who steels Japanese and Chinese culture' or 'uneducated Korean' something like that) I believed checkuser system is a fastest way to confirm their same behavioral pattern by checking ip and hosts. --[[User:Appletrees|Appletrees]] ([[User talk:Appletrees|talk]]) 10:06, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


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For the record of a related case, another extensive check user of ''[[chinilpa|pro-Japanese]]'' editors in the [[Japanese-Korean relations|K-J line]] has been submitted to [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/KoreanShoriSenyou]] and been checked.

A check user case including [[User:Appletrees]] has been also submitted to [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/AirFrance358]].--[[User:Jjok|Jjok]] ([[User talk:Jjok|talk]]) 18:55, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

:{{clerknote}} Per request of checkuser, please see also this [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/KoreanShoriSenyou |case]] too. -[[User:JodyB|'''JodyB''']]<sub>[[User talk:JodyB| <span style="color:red;">talk</span>]]</sub> 16:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)