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The result of the debate was '''no consensus'''. [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 01:16, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

===[[Comparison of word processors]]===
Judging from its contents and comments on the discussion page, the purpose of this article is in fact not a comparison of word processors but a presentation of one or a few people's views of what a word processor should be. That might be a good blog post or business proposal, but it isn't appropriate for an encyclopedia article. Furthermore, there is no information in this article that is not in the [[word processor]] article. [[User:Billposer|Bill]] 00:14, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' unless recreated from scratch with information like the other [[Comparison of...]] pages. [[User:Porge|porges]] 00:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' per porges. WP:NOT violated. [[User:M1ss1ontomars2k4|M1ss1ontomars2k4]] 00:29, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', seems to be [[WP:OR|original research]]--[[User:TBC|<span style="color:gray;">T</span><span style="color:blue;">B</span><span style="color:purple;">C</span>]]<big>[[Main Page|☆]]</big><small><sup>[[User talk:TBC|<span style="color:black;">O</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/TBC|<span style="color:blue;">M</span>]] [[Special:Emailuser/TBC|<span style="color:purple;">G!</span>]]</sup></small> 00:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - or invite the author to '''Merge'''/add the content to other articles such as [[word processor]]. - [[User:Richardcavell|Richardcavell]] 01:07, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete or Merge''' per Richardcavell --[[User:Mets501|M]][[User:Mets501/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">'''e'''</span>]][[User:Mets501|ts501]]<sup>[[User_talk:mets501|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Mets501|contribs]]</sup> 02:29, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', [[WP:NOR|original research]]. --[[User:Terence Ong|Ter]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:green">e</span>]][[User:Terence Ong|nc]][[User talk:Terence Ong|e Ong]] 02:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. The deletes seem to be objecting to the way the article has currently been written, not to the viability of such an article in itself. Surely the whole point of a collaborative venture is that other editors will work on an article that needs improvement, not just delete it because it's not good enough. There is an article [[Comparison of text editors]] which is directly comparable to this one and demonstrates the standard that this article needs to aim for. I have put an improve tag on it and a note on the article talk page to this effect. Many articles start off poorly and change out of all recognition over time. [[User:Tyrenius|Tyrenius]] 03:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per Tyrenius.  Legitimate article - needs improvement, that's all.  [[User:Dbtfz|<span style="color:maroon">dbtfz</span>]][[User talk:Dbtfz|<sup><span style="color:slategray">talk</span></sup>]] 04:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', this is a reasonable thing to cover; think of how useful the edit history will be in twenty years... --'''[[User:Alexwcovington|<span style="background:#000088; color:#FFFF88;">AlexWCovington</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Alexwcovington|talk]]) 04:20, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - original research, subjective definition of word processor -- [[User:Hirudo|Hirudo]] 05:35, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' per Tyrenius [[User:TKE|<span style="color:maroon;">'''T'''</span>]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:green">'''e'''</span>]][[User talk:TKE|<span style="color:gray;">'''k'''</span><span style="color:maroon;">'''e'''</span>]] 05:49, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per Tyrenius and improve. [[User:EWS23/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">'''E'''</span>]][[User:EWS23|WS23]] | [[User talk:EWS23|(Leave me a message!)]] 06:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' -- POV article; obvious future target for edit-wars; list-with-no-end; original research as there as (AFAIK) no agreed benchmark standards in this area -- [[User:Simoncursitor|Simon Cursitor]] 07:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
* '''Delete''',  as above--[[User:Smerus|Smerus]] 08:28, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
* '''Delete''', [[WP:NOR]]. [[User:Mystache|Mystache]] 13:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
* '''Keep''', Legitimate article needing more time to evolve. As per [[User:Tyrenius|Tyrenius]]. [[User:Davidzuccaro|davidzuccaro]] 13:37, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' any comparison which couldn't stand on its own without removing "comparison of" from the title.  We already have [[word processor]], no need for this.  Also original research in the way the author defines a word processor.  [[Wordperfect]] 5.1 never had a graphical web design capability. &mdash; [[User:AKADriver|AKADriver]] [[User talk:AKADriver|<span style="color:#FF0000;">&#x260E;</span>]] 14:49, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' and rewrite. Not much more than a list right now, but it can be improved. --[[User:Optichan|Optichan]] 16:19, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' and improve. The article has potential for improvement. --<span style="background:gold;">[[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">S</span>]][[User:Siva1979|iva1979]]</span>[[User talk:Siva1979|<sup style="background:yellow;">Talk to me</sup>]] 16:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' as a worthy topic, but needs a rewrite - it's not going in the right direction. -- [[User:Mithent|Mithent]] 18:25, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', tag for improvement. If rewritten to be like [[comparison of text editors]] it would be OK, I guess. [[User:Herostratus|Herostratus]] 18:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - needs work, not deletion. [[User:For great justice.|For great justice.]] 20:41, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - Doesn't appear to be in contravention of any criteria that decrees what shouldn't be on Wikipedia. --[[User:Knucmo2|Knucmo2]] 21:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Original research. --[[User:Arm|Arm]] 22:28, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' with some hard work it could become a good article. [[user:ILovePlankton|<span style="color:red;">I</span>]][[user talk:ILovePlankton|<span style="color:orange;">Lov</span>]][[user:ILovePlankton/Esperanza|<span style="color:lime;">E</span>]][[Plankton]] 23:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' and refactor to, well, a ''comparison'' of word processors. [[User Talk:JzG|Just zis <span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid; padding:0px 2px 2px 2px; color:white; background-color:darkblue; font-weight:bold">Guy</span> you know?]] 23:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
* In response to [[User:Knucmo2|Knucmo2]], the article as it stands is just an exposition of somebody's view of what word processors should be like. That violates NPOV and original research at least. To the people who say that an article on the topic of Comparison of Word processors could be good, if like the existing [[Comparison of text editors]], I agree. The question is, since this article as it stands isn't even on that topic, in spite of its title, and has shown no hint of evolving in that direction in over a month of frequent edits, is it better to leave it and hope for a complete replacement, or to get rid of it until someone comes along and starts an article actually devoted to the topic?[[User:Billposer|Bill]] 23:44, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
**I don't agree. It seems to me to be an attempt to define the difference between a text editor and a word processor. That seems a reasonable enough way to introduce the topic. Maybe it could be improved, but that is of course the point of a collaborative project. Then there is a list with some minimal comparisons, again something to be improved. A month is not a long time in the evolution of Wikipedia. I can't see the rush to delete, rather than improve. There seems to be a growing tendency to think that a badly written article is cause for deletion, so all the energy goes into AfD discussions about it, rather than working on it. [[User:Tyrenius|Tyrenius]] 00:58, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


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