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Hey taku Just a small q.. Is [[Zipang]] really an archaic name of Japan? A one sentence article keeps me wondering the accuracy of its content. -- [[User:Kt2]] 03:16 May 3, 2003

:Actually, yes it is though I am not sure if it is a Portoguees or not. I think I heard Zipang was introduced by Macro Polo's book. Anyway, we have got to merge it to some probably Japan article since we don't want to wikipedia as a dictionary. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 03:26 May 3, 2003 (UTC)

::Yes, it's Marco Polo's name, however the more usual spelling is '''Cipangu'''. [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]]

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Taku, just wanted to know if I can delete the [[:Image:Akashi_bridge.jpg]] image as I uploaded [[:Image:Akashi-kaikyo_bridge_night_shot_small.jpg]] which is used in the [[Akashi-Kaikyo Bridge]] article.<br>
cheers, --[[User:Synthetik|synthetik]] 14:06 May 5, 2003 (UTC)

:I think you have to ask sysops if you want to delete images once uploaded. But I don't think we have to worry much about deleting images because their existence hurts nothing. We have to delete images only if they are significantly violating copyrights. Otherwise, simply removing links to such images is a good enough I think. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 23:23 May 5, 2003 (UTC)
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re: colored text rendering badly
Sorry about that.  Out of interest what browser are you using? -- [[User:Mib|mib]] 01:10 May 6, 2003 (UTC)
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Hi Taku, I've altered your amendment to [[Automatic teller machine]] as I'm afraid you were caught out by a homonym -- it's called a ''cash dispenser'' not a ''cache dispenser''. I also reverted the equivalent entry on the [[CD]] disambiguation page as I've never heard of that abbreviation being used for an ATM. -- [[User:Arwel Parry|Arwel]] 02:49 May 7, 2003 (UTC)

:Yeah, I wonder what is a cache dispenser, some kind of device used on the computer? Anyway, I sometimes heard a CD for Cach dispenser, at least in Japan. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]]

:I can't think why anyone would want to dispense bits of a cache in a computer :) -- [[User:Arwel Parry|Arwel]]

::It's [[stack dump error|usually unintentional, I think]].  [[User:Koyaanis Qatsi|Koyaanis Qatsi]]

Takuya I'm glad you are looking at some of the legal articles.  You questions and input are useful, especially the Japanese examples. [[User:Alex756|Alex756]]

:You mean my addition in public corporation? Thank you. I should be able to at least add cases in Japan. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 03:58 May 7, 2003 (UTC)

Also your questioning of why the articles are structured the way they are. It is difficult to determine what the basic categories in the legal area are, as the concepts are all interconnected and the terminology may not be understood by those without much knowledge of legal systems such as in [[real estate]], [[personal property]] and [[real property]]. [[User:Alex756|Alex756]] 22:56 May 8, 2003 (UTC)

:No the question is why we have to structure articles in the way laws are structured. I will put more my idea to talkpage of personal property article. See and give me comments if you still think it's worth to debate with some guy who has little knowledge. If you think you don't want to waste time teaching those like me. It's fine. Let me know I can contribute other areas. (Please I don't mean sarcastic at all.) -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 23:01 May 8, 2003 (UTC)

::I think in some cases the articles do not have to be just about laws and I think input from a layperson (without legal training) is good, after all this is supposed to be a readable project and us lawyer types get all caught up in the structure of law &mdash; in law school I spent half my time putting everything in outline form &mdash; otherwise you can't find what you need when you are trying to understand something.  Actually I would have supposed someone from a [[civil law]] jurisdiction would understand this obsession with organisation of everything into categories and how those categories related because my civil law education was focused in that way. [[User:Alex756|Alex756]] 22:36 May 12, 2003 (UTC)
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Taku, what kind of browser are you using. Your browser seems to cut off content when used on large articles such as [[Japan]]. cheers, --[[User:Synthetik|synthetik]] 09:25 May 7, 2003 (UTC)

:Safari on MacOSX. The problem seems due to time-out rather than kind of broswer. Because sometimes my Inetnet connection gets slow as wikipedia is permanentally very slow, quite frequently I get time-out. Most of time, though, I can try again and succeed to submit my contribution but sometimes when the article is too long, it is quite challenging to me to submit changes succesfully. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 16:09 May 7, 2003 (UTC)

:: I see. I get some timouts as well during the peak hours but I have yet to experience a cut off article. BTW, I use firebird aka phoenix. cheers, --[[User:Synthetik|synthetik]] 18:08 May 7, 2003 (UTC)

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Hello Taku. Next time you object to something that I add to [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]], I suggest you do so by commenting, instead of deleting my request without comment. Otherwise I might get a bit pissed. I am referring to the stub-like and non-encyclopedic [[Kanji Reference:Index]] and related pages. If you wish to keep these so badly, at least do the work of getting them in proper wiki form -- remove the instances of [[CamelCase]] and combine them into a single article. --[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 01:39 May 8, 2003 (UTC)

:I deleted not because I object but only because it is not fair. Really, no one should put a delete voting because he/she felt it doesn't deserve to here. Some articles obviously should be deleted such as newbee experiments, vandalism, or copyright violations. Kanji Reference, in turn, is controversial issue if you think it is obvious to be deleted. Besides, you didn't put any notice to the debate. You can expect everyone is watching Votes for deletion. Please please remeber the policy about deletion here. We have to delete stuff that is making a trouble not stuff that is useless. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 22:50 May 8, 2003 (UTC)


:: Uhh, no, you should read our policies again. Pages should be listed on [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion]] if they are useless, usually defined as, "extremely POV", "very bad form" (no wikification whatsoever etc.), "copyright infringement" or "less than a stub". The Kanji stuff is in bad form (CamelCase!) and has virtually no explanation text whatsoever. As such, it should be listed on Votes for deletetion, and removed -- or fixed. --[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 23:34 May 9, 2003 (UTC)

:Ack! I think I was confused with our pocily about permanent deletion. Now I see your action was right. I will restore an entry if there is no such. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 04:20 May 12, 2003 (UTC)

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'''District '''

If you translate ''gun'' as "district." What do you translate ''choume'' as? --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 23:47 May 8, 2003 (UTC)

: I don't want to sound pushy, Taku, but it's been over a week. Is there any reason why you're not responding to my question? --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 04:22 17 May 2003 (UTC)

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Why did you do [http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=SETI&diff=904523&oldid=904407 this] to the SETI article? --[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 23:36 May 9, 2003 (UTC)

:I am sorry. I didn't know my submission has failed. I didn't get timeout time time but for some reason, the entire text is not transferred well. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 23:44 May 9, 2003 (UTC)
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Just a beginner, [[User:Keizo_Ibata|Keizo]] here. I started an article on Yi Sun-shin I'm wondering what code you are using to write in kanji, hanja etc. Thanks. [[User:Keizo Ibata|keizo]] 13:09 May 10, 2003 (UTC)

:You mean [[encoding code]] or something else? Since I am Japanese, I know only how to input Kanji. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 04:21 May 12, 2003 (UTC)
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Can you post in [[Wikipedia talk:Brilliant prose]] to explain why you removed [[Prisoner's dilemma]]? thanks! [[User:Kingturtle|Kingturtle]] 17:47 May 13, 2003 (UTC)
:Oh, oops. disregard what i just said. i thought you removed it, but you ''added'' it. good good. [[User:Kingturtle|Kingturtle]] 17:52 May 13, 2003 (UTC)


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Taku, before you go and change perfectly valid stuff in pages because it does not work in your browser consider checking it in another browser first. I just checked the &lt;hr&gt; tag you were changing in the Japan article with Konqueror and it seemed to display just fine (sorry I don't have MacOS but Konqi is using the same engine as Safari).  cheers, --[[User:Synthetik|synthetik]] 18:01 May 14, 2003 (UTC)

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Taku, I copyedited your [[Computer Go]] article.  Sorry if I munged it, but I don't have a great understanding of the subject.  But it reads much better now :-), though I am not sure if it is totally NPOV. :-S  Anyway, just transfer the W5 you offered on the [[Wikipedia:WikiMoney|WikiMoney]] page to me when you get a chance.  You might also want to remove the offer now that it has been taken care of.  Thanks. :-)  --[[User:Frecklefoot|Frecklefoot]] 19:41 May 14, 2003 (UTC)

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Taku, are you sure a game of [[football]] is called [[camping]]?  Or is ''playing'' a game of football called camping?  I've never heard it referred to in this manner, and apparently neither have many other people.  Does it possibly refer to European football? --[[User:Frecklefoot|Frecklefoot]] 18:23 16 May 2003 (UTC)

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I *really* hate to say it, trust me. but: [[Image:Last_samurai_405x600.jpg]] has to be copyrighted...  I've noticed your changes over time in computer science and japanese pages, very good!

anyway: [[Wikipedia:Boilerplate_request_for_permission]]  should become your friend ;-)

[[user_talk:hfastedge]]

:I don't see any reason that mere use of a movie poster is not considered fair use. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 02:55 17 May 2003 (UTC)

:: Fair use is highly questionable here, because a movie poster is hardly educational, especially in this resolution. Furthermore, it is my understanding that there are people out there who actually sell these things, who are probably not too happy to see them all over the web. --[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 15:51 17 May 2003 (UTC)

Hi Taku, re the above image. As a student I edited a college magazine and had to get publicity shots, posters, etc from local offices of film distributors like 20th century fox, universal, etc. From my experience I don't think there should be a problem with the poster above. They give them out free of charge by the box load, set no restrictions ''whatsoever'' on usage, never asked even to see the paper I was editing. In fact they'd throw in freebies by the dozen. "Here. Have another fifteen Tom Cruise posters. And another set of stills from our latest film. Yerrah, here, have some merchantise as well". (Quite what use a mug with Al Pacino was going to be to me in laying out a page of a magazine on a mac I never quite grasped!) Their attitude was 'if it is out there being used somewhere, people are hearing about our film.' That is ''all'' they want, publicity. There is a market for posters, but those people own the ''posters'' not the copyright. They can be as mad as hell about people copying your jpeg, but they are in the same situation as someone who buys an exclusive car. They may not like seeing a lot of people have the car because it undermines its ''exclusivity'', but it is none of their business. They own one of the cars, not the right to decide who else has one and what they do with it. Film companies can get protective of their posters when they advertise some famous 'classic' film (Gone with the Wind, High Noon, etc.) but usually by then the posters are ''out there'' and there is damn all they can do about it. So I very much doubt if there is a problem. There are probably hundreds of the above poster in some warehouse which the company has forgotten about and which they found them would probably be pulped. 

In fact, (and I probably shouldn't say this) for years after I stopped editing the magazine I still used to go to the distributors to pretend I was a magazine editor, so that I could get stills. They were a handy way of decorating the walls of student flats. So I wouldn't worry about your jpeg. The chances are if a film company sees it, their first thought won't be "hey, we never gave permission to use that" but "great, maybe people will rent it out on video and DVD not that they have seen that poster!" or more likely, "Jesus, we never got around to pulping all those old posters. I must get someone to get them pulped!" [[User:Jtdirl|FearÉÍREANN]] 02:07 19 May 2003 (UTC)

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You are the only one who objected to the deletion of [[How to get rich]], without any argument whatsoever. Unless you actually support your position either with arguments or by improving the article, I am going to delete it anyway (see [[consensus]]: consensus does not have to be unanimous). --[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 15:51 17 May 2003 (UTC)

:According to talkpage at How to get rich, some still think it can be useful. Take,

:It's pretty hilarious, but I think it's a good start for a real how-to-guide. It actually covers some of the better nuances of money-making strategies. Needs a lot of work, of course. --The Cunctator

:I didn't put my argument to vote of deletion because I agree with him, the article can be better. Besides, if the content is non-encyclopedic, we just can blank the page. We don't have to delete the page permanentally unless copyright issue is concerned. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 17:39 17 May 2003 (UTC)

:See Heron's comment too. Vote of deletion should reflect the debate in each article's talkpage. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 17:41 17 May 2003 (UTC)

:: Nope, it doesn't work that way. The comments refer to a much earlier version of the article. The long bulletpoint crap at the end was added after Axel, Heron et al. made their comments. The talk page comments only matter if they're up to date -- they're not. --[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 17:45 17 May 2003 (UTC)

Gash, I see now. You are probably right. Anyway my intention is keep the article alive rather support it because there seems some objections. If not, go ahead to deletion. Sorry always my misunderstanding. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 18:39 17 May 2003 (UTC)

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Sorry about the revert of [[Logical argument]], but I think if you're moving stuff from one place to another you should add the content at the destination page BEFORE removing it at the source page, otherwise we're left wondering when/if the content is going to arrive at the destination. That's all. [[User:Evercat|Evercat]] 21:37 17 May 2003 (UTC)

:Probably you are right. But you know it is more convinient to cut text, put redirect and paste it. I mean I was little careless. I will merge in the way so that you wouldn't be confused by my intention. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 21:43 17 May 2003 (UTC)

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Hi TakuyaMurata, 

Thanks for adding to [[Romeo and Juliet (1996 movie)]] the english DVD-cover instead of the german one I added. Only a suggestion: Would it not be better to exchange my image instead of creating a new image? Now my image is in Wikipedia and has no link, someone will have to delete it, additional work... What do you think? [[User:Fantasy|Fantasy]]

:Don't worry. It's called orphan image and if needed, we can delete such images automatically. But anyway if you want to delete that, you can it to Votes for deletion so hopefully some sysop will delete it.

PS: Did I find with you also a big fan of this film, or was it just a case that you added this image? ;-)

:Unfortunately, I have seen that yet! Probably I will since I like.

Hi Taku, 
the best of luck with the naming of the Japanese emperors. It is a mammoth task. I know we disagreed earlier but we were ''both'' trying to work out a solution that would be as accurate as possible ''and'' user friendly. Sometimes what is user friendly is wrong and however user friendly should not be used. Othertimes what is 100% correct is too unuser friendly to be workable. I know from trying to sort out titles on wiki how difficult trying to get the balance can be. (We are currently having the same debate on [[Sophie, the Countess of Wessex]]). In any case, the best of luck and I admire your commitment to accuracy. It is a standard that wiki needs to follow more often. :-) [[User:Jtdirl|FearÉÍREANN]] 21:39 18 May 2003 (UTC) (the user formerly known as STÓD/ÉIRE)
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I've made a very severe prune of [[Computer Go]]. I wonder if you'll have time to look over the changes and see if I've removed too much. I feel it's easier to understand now, and contains less redundant or repeated information. [[User:Evercat|Evercat]] 01:05 19 May 2003 (UTC)

:About comput Go. Sorry for responding to your rewriting of computer go article. First, thank you for spending time for rewriting the article entirely. It sure is better to read (particularly I like you dividied into sections). I just read briefly so I don't know if you missed some important points. I will look at. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 13:12 21 May 2003 (UTC)
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Taku - please see note on [[talk:Window class]] and then please read the following [http://www4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~golm/pm/OOFAQ/oo-faq-S-1.15.html#S-1.15]. [[User:Mintguy|Mintguy]]

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ehr.. why did you redirect [[positive number]]s to [[negative number]]s?? they are NOT the same thing. i aggree that its quiet strange to have something like "positive number" at the wikipedia, but still? negative and positive numbers are not the same, they are the opposits to each other??? [[user:smaffy|smaffy]]

:[[User:Evercat|Evercat]] asked the same question (maybe I should leave his/her comment so that you could know of it). See talkpage of [[negative number]].

:: ok! :) whatever.. i think that the topic "positive number"s are quiet odd anyway, so i dont really care. i think that you guys can do it fairly well, after all, you people seems to be quiet intelligent :P

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Really, I know about moving pages, and I know it moves the history as well. I'm a quite experienced contributor if you didn't know (just check [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Most active Wikipedians]] if you have any doubt...). I deliberately did not use the move page function: There was a lot of history at both pages. This way all the history was kept, although (slightly less than) half of it at the wrong place. To use the move page feature would have required to delete the page that I moved to, which would mean losing its history. I preferred to have half at the right place and half at the wrong place, rather than half at the right place and half nowhere. [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] 21:43 21 May 2003 (UTC)

:Sorry I really didn't notice your insignt. I just thought someone who doesn't know about moving page just moved text. I think what you have done is right. I will restore your contribution. -- [[User:TakuyaMurata|Taku]] 22:14 21 May 2003 (UTC)

::No hard feelings. Happy editing! [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] 12:45 22 May 2003 (UTC)

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